New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest - Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html

Rusty Wyse <yale.mar@gmail.com> wrote:
> New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
>

I think you need to see the description of the police state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state

And differentiate with police brutality

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality

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~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:22:10 AM UTC-7, alien wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> >
> I think you need to see the description of the police state.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
>
> And differentiate with police brutality
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality

Read LTLee's post of what Newt Gingrich's first hand experience while traveling in China:

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.china/c/YdO3DeWAdec

Perhaps, you shouldn't be so brainwashed by your own government's propaganda...

> --
> -alien-
> ~ Work like you don't need the money. ~
> ~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
> ~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 4:22:10 AM UTC-4, alien wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> >
> I think you need to see the description of the police state.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
>
> And differentiate with police brutality
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality
>
> --
> -alien-
> ~ Work like you don't need the money. ~
> ~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
> ~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~

At what point a police state is really a police state is debatable. In some sense, all states have some elements of police state. It reflects the dynamic between
a people not trusting their government and the government not trusting the people. The US is long on its way in making a populace accepting its kind police state
Since most people consider the government not trustworthy, the acceptance is out of fear from third party threat, including those originated from fellow Americans of different religion and different ethnicity. In addition, people's lack of reaction allows government to act further and further away from the US Constitution.

The following excerpted from "Battlefield America: The War on the America People."
"How do you get a nation to docilely accept a police state? How do you persuade a populace to accept metal detectors and pat downs in their schools, bag searches in their train stations, tanks and military weaponry used by their small town police forces, surveillance cameras on their traffic lights, police strip searches on their public roads, unwarranted and forced blood draws at drunk driving checkpoints, whole body scanners in their airports, and government agents monitoring their communications?
Try to ram such a state of affairs down their throats, and you might find yourself with a rebellion on your hands. Instead, you bombard the citizenry with constant color-coded alerts, terrorize them with reports of shootings and bomb threats in malls, schools, and sports arenas, desensitize them with a steady diet of police violence, and mesmerize them with entertainment spectacles (what the Romans used to refer to as “bread and circus” distractions) and electronic devices, while selling the whole package to them as being in their best interests.
....
What is most striking about the American police state is not the mega-corporations running amok in the halls of Congress, the militarized police crashing through doors and shooting unarmed citizens, or the invasive surveillance regime which has come to dominate every aspect of our lives. No, what has been most disconcerting about the emergence of the American police state is the extent to which the citizenry appears content to passively wait for someone else to solve the nation’s many problems.
....
We Are the Enemy
The outlook for civil liberties grows bleaker by the day, from the government’s embrace of indefinite detention for U.S. citizens and armed surveillance drones flying overhead to warrantless surveillance of phone, email, and Internet communications and prosecutions of government whistle-blowers. Meanwhile, the homeland is ruled by a police-industrial complex, an extension of the America military empire. Everything that our founding fathers warned against—a standing army that would see American citizens as enemy combatants—is now the new norm. The government—local law enforcement now being extensions of the federal government—has trained its sights on the American people. We have become the enemy.
....
These troubling developments are the outward manifestations of an inner philosophical shift underway in how the government views not only the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but “we the people,” as well. What this reflects is a move away from a government bound by the rule of law to one that seeks total control through the imposition of its own self-serving laws on the populace."

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:22:10 AM UTC-7, alien wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> >
> I think you need to see the description of the police state.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
>
> And differentiate with police brutality
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality

That kind of differentiation is difficult for Yale.

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 5:17:08 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 4:22:10 AM UTC-4, alien wrote:
> > Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> > >
> > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> > >
> > I think you need to see the description of the police state.
> >
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
> >
> > And differentiate with police brutality
> >
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality
> >
> > --
> > -alien-
> > ~ Work like you don't need the money. ~
> > ~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
> > ~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~
> At what point a police state is really a police state is debatable. In some sense, all states have some elements of police state. It reflects the dynamic between
> a people not trusting their government and the government not trusting the people. The US is long on its way in making a populace accepting its kind police state
> Since most people consider the government not trustworthy, the acceptance is out of fear from third party threat, including those originated from fellow Americans of different religion and different ethnicity. In addition, people's lack of reaction allows government to act further and further away from the US Constitution.
>
> The following excerpted from "Battlefield America: The War on the America People."
> "How do you get a nation to docilely accept a police state? How do you persuade a populace to accept metal detectors and pat downs in their schools, bag searches in their train stations, tanks and military weaponry used by their small town police forces, surveillance cameras on their traffic lights, police strip searches on their public roads, unwarranted and forced blood draws at drunk driving checkpoints, whole body scanners in their airports, and government agents monitoring their communications?
> Try to ram such a state of affairs down their throats, and you might find yourself with a rebellion on your hands. Instead, you bombard the citizenry with constant color-coded alerts, terrorize them with reports of shootings and bomb threats in malls, schools, and sports arenas, desensitize them with a steady diet of police violence, and mesmerize them with entertainment spectacles (what the Romans used to refer to as “bread and circus” distractions) and electronic devices, while selling the whole package to them as being in their best interests.
> ...
> What is most striking about the American police state is not the mega-corporations running amok in the halls of Congress, the militarized police crashing through doors and shooting unarmed citizens, or the invasive surveillance regime which has come to dominate every aspect of our lives. No, what has been most disconcerting about the emergence of the American police state is the extent to which the citizenry appears content to passively wait for someone else to solve the nation’s many problems.
> ...
> We Are the Enemy
> The outlook for civil liberties grows bleaker by the day, from the government’s embrace of indefinite detention for U.S. citizens and armed surveillance drones flying overhead to warrantless surveillance of phone, email, and Internet communications and prosecutions of government whistle-blowers. Meanwhile, the homeland is ruled by a police-industrial complex, an extension of the America military empire. Everything that our founding fathers warned against—a standing army that would see American citizens as enemy combatants—is now the new norm. The government—local law enforcement now being extensions of the federal government—has trained its sights on the American people. We have become the enemy.
> ...
> These troubling developments are the outward manifestations of an inner philosophical shift underway in how the government views not only the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but “we the people,” as well. What this reflects is a move away from a government bound by the rule of law to one that seeks total control through the imposition of its own self-serving laws on the populace."

The US is a place with lots of police brutality. North Korea is a police state. China has some elements of a police state, but it's nothing like North Korea.

Do you understand the difference between a police state and a country with lots of police brutality?

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:56:49 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 5:17:08 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 4:22:10 AM UTC-4, alien wrote:
> > > Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > > > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> > > >
> > > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> > > >
> > > I think you need to see the description of the police state.
> > >
> > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
> > >
> > > And differentiate with police brutality
> > >
> > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality
> > >
> > > --
> > > -alien-
> > > ~ Work like you don't need the money. ~
> > > ~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
> > > ~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~

> > At what point a police state is really a police state is debatable. In some sense, all states have some elements of police state. It reflects the dynamic between
> > a people not trusting their government and the government not trusting the people. The US is long on its way in making a populace accepting its kind police state
> > Since most people consider the government not trustworthy, the acceptance is out of fear from third party threat, including those originated from fellow Americans of different religion and different ethnicity. In addition, people's lack of reaction allows government to act further and further away from the US Constitution.
> >
> > The following excerpted from "Battlefield America: The War on the America People."
> > "How do you get a nation to docilely accept a police state? How do you persuade a populace to accept metal detectors and pat downs in their schools, bag searches in their train stations, tanks and military weaponry used by their small town police forces, surveillance cameras on their traffic lights, police strip searches on their public roads, unwarranted and forced blood draws at drunk driving checkpoints, whole body scanners in their airports, and government agents monitoring their communications?
> > Try to ram such a state of affairs down their throats, and you might find yourself with a rebellion on your hands. Instead, you bombard the citizenry with constant color-coded alerts, terrorize them with reports of shootings and bomb threats in malls, schools, and sports arenas, desensitize them with a steady diet of police violence, and mesmerize them with entertainment spectacles (what the Romans used to refer to as “bread and circus” distractions) and electronic devices, while selling the whole package to them as being in their best interests.
> > ...
> > What is most striking about the American police state is not the mega-corporations running amok in the halls of Congress, the militarized police crashing through doors and shooting unarmed citizens, or the invasive surveillance regime which has come to dominate every aspect of our lives. No, what has been most disconcerting about the emergence of the American police state is the extent to which the citizenry appears content to passively wait for someone else to solve the nation’s many problems.
> > ...
> > We Are the Enemy
> > The outlook for civil liberties grows bleaker by the day, from the government’s embrace of indefinite detention for U.S. citizens and armed surveillance drones flying overhead to warrantless surveillance of phone, email, and Internet communications and prosecutions of government whistle-blowers. Meanwhile, the homeland is ruled by a police-industrial complex, an extension of the America military empire. Everything that our founding fathers warned against—a standing army that would see American citizens as enemy combatants—is now the new norm. The government—local law enforcement now being extensions of the federal government—has trained its sights on the American people. We have become the enemy.
> > ...
> > These troubling developments are the outward manifestations of an inner philosophical shift underway in how the government views not only the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but “we the people,” as well. What this reflects is a move away from a government bound by the rule of law to one that seeks total control through the imposition of its own self-serving laws on the populace."
> The US is a place with lots of police brutality. North Korea is a police state. China has some elements of a police state, but it's nothing like North Korea.
>
> Do you understand the difference between a police state and a country with lots of police brutality?

No need to ask me. I had stated at the beginning that "At what point a police state is really a police state is debatable."
Feel free to take down John W. Whitehead's point that the US government sees the people as the enemy. If you have information that John W. Whitehead (mini-bio below) does not know, I would be happy to hear that.

https://www.huffpost.com/author/johnw-973
"John W. Whitehead is an attorney and author who has written, debated and practiced widely in the area of constitutional law and human rights. Whitehead’s aggressive, pioneering approach to civil liberties has earned him numerous accolades and accomplishments, including the Hungarian Medal of Freedom. His concern for the persecuted and oppressed led him, in 1982, to establish The Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties and human rights organization in Charlottesville, Va. Whitehead serves as the Institute’s president and spokesperson. His thought-provoking commentaries call people to action and address a wide range of contemporary issues from faith to politics and television to constitutional rights. He is also a frequent commentator on a variety of issues in the national media. Whitehead's book "Battlefield America: The War on the American People" is available now, online and in stores. Whitehead's daily alerts, commentaries, podcasts and vodcasts are available at www.rutherford.org."

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:56:49 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 5:17:08 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 4:22:10 AM UTC-4, alien wrote:
> > > Rusty Wyse <yale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > New York police officer punches woman in the throat during an arrest -
> > > > Not a "police state", but China is a "police state"!!!
> > > >
> > > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-police-officer-punches-woman-034634268.html
> > > >
> > > I think you need to see the description of the police state.
> > >
> > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
> > >
> > > And differentiate with police brutality
> > >
> > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality
> > >
> > > --
> > > -alien-
> > > ~ Work like you don't need the money. ~
> > > ~ Love like you've never been hurt. ~
> > > ~ Dance like nobody is looking. ~
> > At what point a police state is really a police state is debatable. In some sense, all states have some elements of police state. It reflects the dynamic between
> > a people not trusting their government and the government not trusting the people. The US is long on its way in making a populace accepting its kind police state
> > Since most people consider the government not trustworthy, the acceptance is out of fear from third party threat, including those originated from fellow Americans of different religion and different ethnicity. In addition, people's lack of reaction allows government to act further and further away from the US Constitution.
> >
> > The following excerpted from "Battlefield America: The War on the America People."
> > "How do you get a nation to docilely accept a police state? How do you persuade a populace to accept metal detectors and pat downs in their schools, bag searches in their train stations, tanks and military weaponry used by their small town police forces, surveillance cameras on their traffic lights, police strip searches on their public roads, unwarranted and forced blood draws at drunk driving checkpoints, whole body scanners in their airports, and government agents monitoring their communications?
> > Try to ram such a state of affairs down their throats, and you might find yourself with a rebellion on your hands. Instead, you bombard the citizenry with constant color-coded alerts, terrorize them with reports of shootings and bomb threats in malls, schools, and sports arenas, desensitize them with a steady diet of police violence, and mesmerize them with entertainment spectacles (what the Romans used to refer to as “bread and circus” distractions) and electronic devices, while selling the whole package to them as being in their best interests.
> > ...
> > What is most striking about the American police state is not the mega-corporations running amok in the halls of Congress, the militarized police crashing through doors and shooting unarmed citizens, or the invasive surveillance regime which has come to dominate every aspect of our lives. No, what has been most disconcerting about the emergence of the American police state is the extent to which the citizenry appears content to passively wait for someone else to solve the nation’s many problems.
> > ...
> > We Are the Enemy
> > The outlook for civil liberties grows bleaker by the day, from the government’s embrace of indefinite detention for U.S. citizens and armed surveillance drones flying overhead to warrantless surveillance of phone, email, and Internet communications and prosecutions of government whistle-blowers. Meanwhile, the homeland is ruled by a police-industrial complex, an extension of the America military empire. Everything that our founding fathers warned against—a standing army that would see American citizens as enemy combatants—is now the new norm. The government—local law enforcement now being extensions of the federal government—has trained its sights on the American people. We have become the enemy.
> > ...
> > These troubling developments are the outward manifestations of an inner philosophical shift underway in how the government views not only the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but “we the people,” as well. What this reflects is a move away from a government bound by the rule of law to one that seeks total control through the imposition of its own self-serving laws on the populace."
> The US is a place with lots of police brutality. North Korea is a police state. China has some elements of a police state, but it's nothing like North Korea.
>
> Do you understand the difference between a police state and a country with lots of police brutality?
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Police State in China means policemen treat people with respect and helpfulness.
Police brutality is what is happening within the U.S., shoot to kill first, then ask questions...