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* Lord > Popham > CharlemagneDavid Heiden
+* Re: Lord > Popham > CharlemagnePaulo Ricardo Canedo
|`* Re: Lord > Popham > CharlemagneDavid Heiden
| `- Re: Lord > Popham > CharlemagneWill Johnson
`* Re: Lord > Popham > Charlemagnetaf
 `- Re: Lord > Popham > CharlemagneDavid Heiden

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Subject: Lord > Popham > Charlemagne
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 by: David Heiden - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 02:23 UTC

I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham

Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
Thanks for any input

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Subject: Re: Lord > Popham > Charlemagne
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 by: Paulo Ricardo Canedo - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:42 UTC

A segunda-feira, 13 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 02:23:06 UTC, dahe...@gmail.com escreveu:
> I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham
>
> Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
> Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
> Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
> Thanks for any input

I suggest you post a thread with all of your supposed descents from Charlemagne.

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Subject: Re: Lord > Popham > Charlemagne
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 by: taf - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:06 UTC

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham
>
> Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
> Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
> Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
> Thanks for any input

This doesn't really address your question, but I have done superficial investigation of the immigrants here, based on a supposed daughter. The woman in question was named Thankslord Sheppard as a married woman, and some genius decided this represented Thanks Lord, with Lord her maiden name (a completely anachronistic usage), and attached her to the first Lord family they came across, retrospectively making her daughter of Thomas Lord and Dorothy Bird. To add to the absurdity, when her marriage record was discovered and revealed her to have been Thankslord Perkins, someone in the finest tradition of scholarly genealogy simply changed Thomas Lord into Thomas Perkins to match his non-daughter's true surname. Thus it is not uncommon to see online nonsense with Dorothy Bird married to Thomas Perkins instead of (or in addition to) Thomas Lord, all due to this comedy of ineptitude.

taf

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 by: David Heiden - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 14:34 UTC

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 8:06:30 AM UTC-5, taf wrote:
> On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham
> >
> > Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
> > Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
> > Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
> > Thanks for any input
> This doesn't really address your question, but I have done superficial investigation of the immigrants here, based on a supposed daughter. The woman in question was named Thankslord Sheppard as a married woman, and some genius decided this represented Thanks Lord, with Lord her maiden name (a completely anachronistic usage), and attached her to the first Lord family they came across, retrospectively making her daughter of Thomas Lord and Dorothy Bird. To add to the absurdity, when her marriage record was discovered and revealed her to have been Thankslord Perkins, someone in the finest tradition of scholarly genealogy simply changed Thomas Lord into Thomas Perkins to match his non-daughter's true surname. Thus it is not uncommon to see online nonsense with Dorothy Bird married to Thomas Perkins instead of (or in addition to) Thomas Lord, all due to this comedy of ineptitude.
>
> taf
Thanks, that makes sense.

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 by: David Heiden - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:07 UTC

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 5:42:37 AM UTC-5, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> A segunda-feira, 13 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 02:23:06 UTC, dahe...@gmail.com escreveu:
> > I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham
> >
> > Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
> > Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
> > Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
> > Thanks for any input
> I suggest you post a thread with all of your supposed descents from Charlemagne.
I'm Happy to do that, but the potent list is long.

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 by: Will Johnson - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:21 UTC

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 8:07:54 AM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 5:42:37 AM UTC-5, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> > A segunda-feira, 13 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 02:23:06 UTC, dahe...@gmail.com escreveu:
> > > I'm working several potential family connections for Charlemagne. Has anyone worked the Popham family. My line is like this to the Popham
> > >
> > > Anna Lord, 1613-1667, England > Harford, CT
> > > Spouse: Thomas Stanton, 1616-1677, England > Stonington, CT
> > > Line: Dorothy Bird > Amy Hill > Mary Ann Popham > John Popham
> > > Thanks for any input
> > I suggest you post a thread with all of your supposed descents from Charlemagne.
> I'm Happy to do that, but the potent list is long.

Just post one line, from now, to say 1500, we should be able to prove/disprove it that way

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