> | Chris Christie is stepping up his rhetoric attacking GOP
> | presidential front-runner and rival former President Trump,
> | releasing a new ad declaring Trump will "burn America to
> | the ground."

| ...
| Here's Donald Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence:
| "Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never
| be president of the United States. ... President Trump
| demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution."
|
| Here's one of his defense secretaries, retired Gen. James
| Mattis: "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime
| who does not try to unite the American people - does not
| even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us."
| Mattis has also said, "He is more dangerous than anyone
| could ever imagine."
|
| Here's one of his former chiefs of staff and homeland
| security secretaries, retired Gen. John Kelly, describing
| Trump to our CNN colleague Jake Tapper as "A person that
| has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what
| America is all about ... A person who admires autocrats and
| murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt
| for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the
| rule of law."
|
| Here's his second attorney general, Bill Barr: "He is a
| consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in
| reckless conduct. ... He will always put his own interests,
| and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else,
| including the country's interest."
|
| Here's one of his national security advisers, retired Lt.
| Gen. HR McMaster: "President Trump and other officials have
| repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of
| partisan advantage and personal gain."
|
| Here's another national security adviser, John Bolton: "I
| have been in those rooms with him when he met with those
| [world] leaders, I believe they think he's a laughing fool.
| And the idea that somehow his presence in office would
| have deterred Putin is flatly wrong ... He's not fit to be
| president."
|
| Here's another former defense secretary, Mark Esper: "He
| puts himself before country. His actions are all about him
| and not about the country."
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/13/opinions/donald-trump-iowa-elections-2024-avlon/index.html>

--bks

| understanding what it was like to not have health insurance
| for eight years.
|
| So this idea that I'm somehow the "Hollywood elite" and
| this guy who takes a shit in a gold toilet is somehow the
| man of the people is laughable.
|
| People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the
| Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this
| idea of "coastal elites" living in a bubble is ridiculous.
| Who lives in a bigger bubble?
|
| He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his
| company. He doesn't run a corporation of hundreds of
| thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a
| company of twelve people!
|
| When you direct a film you have seven different unions all
| wanting different things, you have to find consensus with
| all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same
| direction.
|
| He's never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look
| at it and I laugh when I see him say "Hollywood elite."
| Hollywood elite? I don't have a star on Hollywood
| Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard!
| Fuck you!"
|

--bks

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>>Meghan McCain:
>> | I would rather saw my arm off with blunt glass than vote
>> | for Trump.

| ...
| Here's Donald Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence:
| "Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never
| be president of the United States. ... President Trump
| demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution."
|
| Here's one of his defense secretaries, retired Gen. James
| Mattis: "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime
| who does not try to unite the American people - does not
| even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us."
| Mattis has also said, "He is more dangerous than anyone
| could ever imagine."
|
| Here's one of his former chiefs of staff and homeland
| security secretaries, retired Gen. John Kelly, describing
| Trump to our CNN colleague Jake Tapper as "A person that
| has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what
| America is all about ... A person who admires autocrats and
| murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt
| for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the
| rule of law."
|
| Here's his second attorney general, Bill Barr: "He is a
| consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in
| reckless conduct. ... He will always put his own interests,
| and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else,
| including the country's interest."
|
| Here's one of his national security advisers, retired Lt.
| Gen. HR McMaster: "President Trump and other officials have
| repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of
| partisan advantage and personal gain."
|
| Here's another national security adviser, John Bolton: "I
| have been in those rooms with him when he met with those
| [world] leaders, I believe they think he's a laughing fool.
| And the idea that somehow his presence in office would
| have deterred Putin is flatly wrong ... He's not fit to be
| president."
|
| Here's another former defense secretary, Mark Esper: "He
| puts himself before country. His actions are all about him
| and not about the country."
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/13/opinions/donald-trump-iowa-elections-2024-avlon/index.html>

--bks

| understanding what it was like to not have health insurance
| for eight years.
|
| So this idea that I'm somehow the "Hollywood elite" and
| this guy who takes a shit in a gold toilet is somehow the
| man of the people is laughable.
|
| People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the
| Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this
| idea of "coastal elites" living in a bubble is ridiculous.
| Who lives in a bigger bubble?
|
| He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his
| company. He doesn't run a corporation of hundreds of
| thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a
| company of twelve people!
|
| When you direct a film you have seven different unions all
| wanting different things, you have to find consensus with
| all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same
| direction.
|
| He's never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look
| at it and I laugh when I see him say "Hollywood elite."
| Hollywood elite? I don't have a star on Hollywood
| Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard!
| Fuck you!"
|

--bks

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>>Meghan McCain:
>> | I would rather saw my arm off with blunt glass than vote
>> | for Trump.

| ...
| Here's Donald Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence:
| "Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never
| be president of the United States. ... President Trump
| demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution."
|
| Here's one of his defense secretaries, retired Gen. James
| Mattis: "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime
| who does not try to unite the American people - does not
| even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us."
| Mattis has also said, "He is more dangerous than anyone
| could ever imagine."
|
| Here's one of his former chiefs of staff and homeland
| security secretaries, retired Gen. John Kelly, describing
| Trump to our CNN colleague Jake Tapper as "A person that
| has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what
| America is all about ... A person who admires autocrats and
| murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt
| for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the
| rule of law."
|
| Here's his second attorney general, Bill Barr: "He is a
| consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in
| reckless conduct. ... He will always put his own interests,
| and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else,
| including the country's interest."
|
| Here's one of his national security advisers, retired Lt.
| Gen. HR McMaster: "President Trump and other officials have
| repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of
| partisan advantage and personal gain."
|
| Here's another national security adviser, John Bolton: "I
| have been in those rooms with him when he met with those
| [world] leaders, I believe they think he's a laughing fool.
| And the idea that somehow his presence in office would
| have deterred Putin is flatly wrong ... He's not fit to be
| president."
|
| Here's another former defense secretary, Mark Esper: "He
| puts himself before country. His actions are all about him
| and not about the country."
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/13/opinions/donald-trump-iowa-elections-2024-avlon/index.html>

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:33:53 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

>Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>>On 1/14/2024 12:45 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> |
>>> | Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support
>>> | former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they
>>> | would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that
>>> | they would rather vote for President Biden over former
>>> | President Trump.
>>
>>Not very meaningful. Iowa is as shithole red as they get, and Haley is polling
>>at 17.3% If that's close to accurate, that means approximately 8% of Iowa
>>Republiscums/QAnon will vote for Biden over Trump. Trump won Iowa in 2020 with
>>53.09% of the vote, vs 44.89% for Biden (the rest was scattered among seven
>>others). Trump could lose those 8% of Republiscums/QAnon and still win
>>the state
>>handily.
>
>Not why I posted it (see Subject line) but it might be true of
>Haley support in all states. The number of Republicans who
>endorse Biden over Trump will be astonishing.

It was in 2020 in Georgia. Georgia sent Democrats to the Senate and Biden to the White
House but local and state Republicans kept their jobs. Kemp won the governor's mansion
decisively against an upcoming Democratic star.

Swill

--
The moon landing was real, Bigfoot does not
roam the northern forests and the 2020 election was not rigged.

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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>>>Meghan McCain:
>>> | I would rather saw my arm off with blunt glass than vote
>>> | for Trump.

|
| Nikki Haley on Friday called Donald J. Trump "totally
| unhinged" after a failed attempt by one of his allies to
| push the Republican National Committee to declare him the
| party's presumptive nominee, escalating her attacks on his
| mental acuity.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/26/us/politics/nikki-haley-trump-unhinged.html>

--bks

>>>>Meghan McCain:
>>>> | I would rather saw my arm off with blunt glass than vote
>>>> | for Trump.

> | Nikki Haley on Friday called Donald J. Trump "totally
> | unhinged" after a failed attempt by one of his allies to

|
| The 91-year-old Republican suing to kick Donald Trump off
| the ballot
|
| Norma Anderson, a trailblazing former GOP legislator, is
| among the Colorado voters who have challenged the
| Republican front-runner's candidacy in a case that will be
| heard by the Supreme Court
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/05/trump-supreme-court-ballot-norma-anderson/>

--bks

|
| Oh WOW -- HFC Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn) is asking Speaker
| Johnson to formally open an inquiry into Intel Chair Mike
| Turner, a fellow R, claiming he was "reckless" in the way
| he approached publicly raising concern about a national
| security threat this week
| ...
<https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1758163617524940970>

--bks

Trump responds after ordered to pay $355M in fraud case: ‘We will be appealing’

(NewsNation) — Former President Donald Trump responded Friday after a New York State
Supreme Court judge found him liable for committing fraud in inflating the value of his
personal wealth and business holdings.

“We will be appealing,“ Trump said from the steps of Mar-a-Lago, calling the judge a “very
dishonest man.“

“There was no fraud,” he said. “The banks all got their money.”

<https://www.newsnationnow.com/trump-investigation/trump-ordered-to-pay-354m-barred-from-doing-business-in-ny/>

Swill
--
Jon Stewart is back on The Daily Show! First episode is on Youtube.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpBPm0b9de

The Daily Show streams on the Paramount network (includes Showtime, CBS
and your local CBS station). https://help.paramountplus.com/

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 17:06:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | Oh WOW -- HFC Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn) is asking Speaker
> | Johnson to formally open an inquiry into Intel Chair Mike
> | Turner, a fellow R, claiming he was "reckless" in the way
> | he approached publicly raising concern about a national
> | security threat this week
> | ...
><https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1758163617524940970>
>
> --bks

Unified party. NOT!

Turner was trying to leverage the House to get money for Ukraine, according to Ogles
letter.

Swill
--
Jon Stewart is back on The Daily Show! First episode is on Youtube.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpBPm0b9de

The Daily Show streams on the Paramount network (includes Showtime, CBS
and your local CBS station). https://help.paramountplus.com/

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

|
| Nikki Haley on Saturday called Aleksei A. Navalny, the
| outspoken Russian opposition leader, "a hero" and amped up
| the pressure on former President Donald J. Trump to respond
| to the news of his death. She said Mr. Navalny had died at
| the hands of President Vladimir V. Putin and that Mr. Trump
| needed to "answer to that."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/haley-trump-russia-navalny-putin.html>

--bks

|
| The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
| Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.
| ...
| "Let me put it a different way: Assholes come and go. But
| America is here to stay," he said.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/22/trump-sununu-republican-party-00142635>

--bks

> | The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
> | Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.
> | ...
> | "Let me put it a different way: Assholes come and go. But
> | America is here to stay," he said.

|
| Haley calls Trump's 'disgusting' comments about Black
| people a 'huge warning sign'
| ...
| Speaking at the Black Conservative Federation Gala in
| Columbia, S.C., Friday night, former President Donald Trump
| made a series of inflammatory comments about Black voters,
| including suggesting that Black voters support him because
| of his criminal indictments, that they have "embraced" his
| mug shot and that he could only see Black people in the
| audience because of how bright the stage lights were.
| ...
<https://www.npr.org/2024/02/24/1233718517/nikki-haley-donald-trump-black-voters-race-election-day-sc>

--bks

>> | The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
>> | Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.
>> | ...
>> | "Let me put it a different way: Assholes come and go. But
>> | America is here to stay," he said.

> | Haley calls Trump's 'disgusting' comments about Black
> | people a 'huge warning sign'

|
| Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley said Sunday that
| she no longer feels bound by the earlier pledge made by her
| and other presidential hopefuls to support the GOP's
| eventual nominee -- widely expected to be former president
| Donald Trump.
|
| The Republican National Committee made that pledge a key
| condition for candidates who wanted to participate in the
| party's debates. Haley acknowledged in an interview on
| NBC's "Meet The Press" that the pledge was a requirement
| but added that the party has changed since then.
|
| "The RNC is now not the same RNC," she said.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/03/nikki-haley-donald-trump-rnc-pledge/>

--bks

On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 13:43:18 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

>>> | The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
>>> | Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.
>>> | ...
>>> | "Let me put it a different way: Assholes come and go. But
>>> | America is here to stay," he said.
>
>> | Haley calls Trump's 'disgusting' comments about Black
>> | people a 'huge warning sign'
>
> |
> | Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley said Sunday that
> | she no longer feels bound by the earlier pledge made by her
> | and other presidential hopefuls to support the GOP's
> | eventual nominee -- widely expected to be former president
> | Donald Trump.
> |
> | The Republican National Committee made that pledge a key
> | condition for candidates who wanted to participate in the
> | party's debates. Haley acknowledged in an interview on
> | NBC's "Meet The Press" that the pledge was a requirement
> | but added that the party has changed since then.
> |
> | "The RNC is now not the same RNC," she said.
> | ...
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/03/nikki-haley-donald-trump-rnc-pledge/>
>
> --bks

Biden vs. Trump polls, Virginia
Biden has a 4.1% lead based on 11 polls.
Mar 3, 2024

Biden 46.7% Trump 42.6%

"Haley looks to beat expectations against Trump in Virginia "
"A Roanoke College poll released Friday showed Haley trouncing President Biden, 49 percent
to 40 percent, in a hypothetical general election match-up. However, the same poll showed
Trump with a massive lead over Haley among Republicans in the state; 75 percent of
self-reported Republicans said they backed Trump, while 15 percent said the same about
Haley. The Hill’s Decision Desk HQ polling average shows Trump holding a similarly
commanding lead over Haley in Virginia, 78 percent to 19 percent. "
<https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4501189-nikki-haley-donald-trump-virginia-joe-biden-super-tuesday/>

Swill
--
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https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/01/18

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

In article <us1upm$1kl$2@reader1.panix.com>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> >> | The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
> >> | Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.

Wishful thinking, for the foreseeable future.

> | Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley said Sunday that
> | she no longer feels bound by the earlier pledge made by her
> | and other presidential hopefuls to support the GOP's
> | eventual nominee -- widely expected to be former president
> | Donald Trump.
> |
> | The Republican National Committee made that pledge a key
> | condition for candidates who wanted to participate in the
> | party's debates. Haley acknowledged in an interview on
> | NBC's "Meet The Press" that the pledge was a requirement
> | but added that the party has changed since then.
> |
> | "The RNC is now not the same RNC," she said.

But Trump's sychophants are going to be running the RNC until someone
becomes powerful enough to kick them out -- whether Trump is in the
White House or Mar-A-Lago.

Don't count on Republicans nominating a so-called RINO in 2028.

On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 10:11:41 -0600, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

>In article <us1upm$1kl$2@reader1.panix.com>,
> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>
>> >> | The future of the Republican Party isn't Donald Trump, New
>> >> | Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu [R] said Thursday.
>
>Wishful thinking, for the foreseeable future.

The immediate future. After this election, Trump will be irrelevant because he will have
lead the Party to one of it's greatest defeats.

>> | Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley said Sunday that
>> | she no longer feels bound by the earlier pledge made by her
>> | and other presidential hopefuls to support the GOP's
>> | eventual nominee -- widely expected to be former president
>> | Donald Trump.
>> |
>> | The Republican National Committee made that pledge a key
>> | condition for candidates who wanted to participate in the
>> | party's debates. Haley acknowledged in an interview on
>> | NBC's "Meet The Press" that the pledge was a requirement
>> | but added that the party has changed since then.
>> |
>> | "The RNC is now not the same RNC," she said.
>
>But Trump's sychophants are going to be running the RNC until someone
>becomes powerful enough to kick them out -- whether Trump is in the
>White House or Mar-A-Lago.
>
>Don't count on Republicans nominating a so-called RINO in 2028.

Don't count on them NOT splitting and running one this year even if on an independent
ticket. I'm sure there are many Republicans willing to bear four more years of Biden if
it means ridding themselves of Trump.

Bonus! They'll might be better situated to hold Congress that way. Congress critters
will have the choice of running with Trump or against him while still retaining their
seats.

Swill
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https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/01/18

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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>>> | Haley calls Trump's 'disgusting' comments about Black
>>> | people a 'huge warning sign'

|
| Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
| Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
| told to "leave" the party
|
| [36-second video at URL]
|
<https://twitter.com/DNCWarRoom/status/1764785689344778249>

--bks

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 16:16:10 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

>>>> | Haley calls Trump's 'disgusting' comments about Black
>>>> | people a 'huge warning sign'
>
> |
> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
> | told to "leave" the party
> |
> | [36-second video at URL]
> |
><https://twitter.com/DNCWarRoom/status/1764785689344778249>
>
> --bks

"There is no one more loyal to Donald Trump and the Make America Great
Again movement than this person you're looking it right here."

No loyalty to the Republican Party, America?

Btw, baby, how many pounds of silicone you got stuffed into those lips? I've seen drag
queens with less plastic in their faces!

Swill
--
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https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/01/18

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>> | told to "leave" the party

Another life-long conservative Republican says:
|
| The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
| to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
| months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
| anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
| for our nation's freedom.
|
<https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>

--bks

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:usaaje$4vp$2
@reader1.panix.com:

>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>> | told to "leave" the party
>
> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
> |
> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
> | for our nation's freedom.
> |
> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>
> --bks
>

Trump is content spend America
into economic collapse as long as
HE comes out OK.

Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: "I won't be here"
December 05, 2018

President Trump is dismissing the importance
of paying down the national debt, saying he
won't be in office to take blame for the
nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even
more unsustainable, according to a report
Wednesday.

The national debt sits at $21 trillion and
counting. As a candidate, when the national
debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to
erase the entire debt "over a period of eight
years."

Trump said the data showed the national debt
would only become untenable after he left
office, the Daily Beast reported.

"Yeah, but I won't be here, Trump said.

https://tinyurl.com/y7deln2b

On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:49:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:usaaje$4vp$2
>@reader1.panix.com:
>
>>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>>> | told to "leave" the party
>>
>> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
>> |
>> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
>> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
>> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
>> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
>> | for our nation's freedom.
>> |
>> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>>
>> --bks
>>
>
>
> Trump is content spend America
>into economic collapse as long as
>HE comes out OK.
>
>
>
>
>Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: "I won't be here"
>December 05, 2018
>
>President Trump is dismissing the importance
>of paying down the national debt, saying he
>won't be in office to take blame for the
>nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even
>more unsustainable, according to a report
>Wednesday.
>
>The national debt sits at $21 trillion and
>counting. As a candidate, when the national
>debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to
>erase the entire debt "over a period of eight
>years."
>
>Trump said the data showed the national debt
>would only become untenable after he left
>office, the Daily Beast reported.
>
>"Yeah, but I won't be here, Trump said.
>
>https://tinyurl.com/y7deln2b

How can anybody support such a groomer for President? I wouldn't want him driving a
street cleaner in my neighborhood.

Swill
--
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GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

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On 2024-03-06, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>> | told to "leave" the party
>
> Another life-long conservative Republican says:

> |
> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
> | for our nation's freedom.
> |
><https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>
> --bks

Personally I feel Lara Trump is not a good choice, not because she isn't capable, but because the
optics are really, really bad.
Trump is accusing the Biden family of being a crime syndicate yet he is installing members of his
own family into high level positions.
Never a good idea to do business with your immediate family.

He needs to support someone who is very familiar with DC politics and how it works. Not an outsider.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:lihhuil2npr6jp60jf84b6mmhp1qqmovc1@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:49:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:usaaje$4vp$2
>>@reader1.panix.com:
>>
>>>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>>>> | told to "leave" the party
>>>
>>> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
>>> |
>>> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
>>> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
>>> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
>>> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
>>> | for our nation's freedom.
>>> |
>>> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>>
>>
>>
>> Trump is content spend America
>>into economic collapse as long as
>>HE comes out OK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: "I won't be here"
>>December 05, 2018
>>
>>President Trump is dismissing the importance
>>of paying down the national debt, saying he
>>won't be in office to take blame for the
>>nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even
>>more unsustainable, according to a report
>>Wednesday.
>>
>>The national debt sits at $21 trillion and
>>counting. As a candidate, when the national
>>debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to
>>erase the entire debt "over a period of eight
>>years."
>>
>>Trump said the data showed the national debt
>>would only become untenable after he left
>>office, the Daily Beast reported.
>>
>>"Yeah, but I won't be here, Trump said.
>>
>>https://tinyurl.com/y7deln2b
>
> How can anybody support such a groomer for President? I wouldn't want
> him driving a street cleaner in my neighborhood.
>
> Swill

Remember his call for Iowans to drive into
town in the snow to vote for him even if they
die as a result?

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 02:17:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:lihhuil2npr6jp60jf84b6mmhp1qqmovc1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:49:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:usaaje$4vp$2
>>>@reader1.panix.com:
>>>
>>>>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>>>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>>>>> | told to "leave" the party
>>>>
>>>> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
>>>> |
>>>> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
>>>> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
>>>> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
>>>> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
>>>> | for our nation's freedom.
>>>> |
>>>> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump is content spend America
>>>into economic collapse as long as
>>>HE comes out OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: "I won't be here"
>>>December 05, 2018
>>>
>>>President Trump is dismissing the importance
>>>of paying down the national debt, saying he
>>>won't be in office to take blame for the
>>>nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even
>>>more unsustainable, according to a report
>>>Wednesday.
>>>
>>>The national debt sits at $21 trillion and
>>>counting. As a candidate, when the national
>>>debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to
>>>erase the entire debt "over a period of eight
>>>years."
>>>
>>>Trump said the data showed the national debt
>>>would only become untenable after he left
>>>office, the Daily Beast reported.
>>>
>>>"Yeah, but I won't be here, Trump said.
>>>
>>>https://tinyurl.com/y7deln2b
>>
>> How can anybody support such a groomer for President? I wouldn't want
>> him driving a street cleaner in my neighborhood.
>>
>> Swill
>
>
>
> Remember his call for Iowans to drive into
>town in the snow to vote for him even if they
>die as a result?

I missed that one! Wouldn't happen to have a link I could read the whole story from?

Swill
--
"There are no wrong books. What's wrong is the fear of them."

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:16:53 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>Personally I feel Lara Trump is not a good choice, not because she isn't capable, but because the
>optics are really, really bad.

Nepobaby.

>Trump is accusing the Biden family of being a crime syndicate yet he is installing members of his
>own family into high level positions.

That's how he ran the White House last time and his son in law walked away with a two
billion dollar Saudi investment fund with a salary of tens of millions a year.

>Never a good idea to do business with your immediate family.

Bill let Hillary run their universal health care plan - right into the ground.

>He needs to support someone who is very familiar with DC politics and how it works. Not an outsider.

But you're gonna vote for him anyway, aren't you?

Swill
--
"There are no wrong books. What's wrong is the fear of them."

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bvaiuitv47v7blko92el84u827hsn1lu0q@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 02:17:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:lihhuil2npr6jp60jf84b6mmhp1qqmovc1@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:49:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:usaaje$4vp$2
>>>>@reader1.panix.com:
>>>>
>>>>>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>>>>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>>>>>> | told to "leave" the party
>>>>>
>>>>> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
>>>>> |
>>>>> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
>>>>> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
>>>>> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
>>>>> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
>>>>> | for our nation's freedom.
>>>>> |
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trump is content spend America
>>>>into economic collapse as long as
>>>>HE comes out OK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: "I won't be here"
>>>>December 05, 2018
>>>>
>>>>President Trump is dismissing the importance
>>>>of paying down the national debt, saying he
>>>>won't be in office to take blame for the
>>>>nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even
>>>>more unsustainable, according to a report
>>>>Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>>The national debt sits at $21 trillion and
>>>>counting. As a candidate, when the national
>>>>debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to
>>>>erase the entire debt "over a period of eight
>>>>years."
>>>>
>>>>Trump said the data showed the national debt
>>>>would only become untenable after he left
>>>>office, the Daily Beast reported.
>>>>
>>>>"Yeah, but I won't be here, Trump said.
>>>>
>>>>https://tinyurl.com/y7deln2b
>>>
>>> How can anybody support such a groomer for President? I wouldn't
>>> want him driving a street cleaner in my neighborhood.
>>>
>>> Swill
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember his call for Iowans to drive into
>>town in the snow to vote for him even if they
>>die as a result?
>
> I missed that one! Wouldn't happen to have a link I could read the
> whole story from?

Trump urges Iowans to caucus:
"Even if you vote and then pass
away, it�s worth it"
Jan 15 2024

Former president Donald Trump
has urged residents to get out
to the Iowa caucuses and vote,
even if they are "sick as a dog",
in a defiant rally.

Mr Trump said that even if people
"passed away" shortly after voting
it would be "worth it", during his
speech at the rally in Indianola on
Sunday (14 January).
https://tinyurl.com/mry9py5b

'Even if you vote and then pass
away, it's worth it': Trump urges
Iowans to vote
JAn 15 2024
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/01/15/donald-trump-vote-pass-
away-iowa-caucus-vpx.cnn

On 3/6/24 6:16 PM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-03-06, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> | Lara Trump says when she becomes co-Chair of the Republican
>>>> | Party, "anyone" who doesn't support Trump and MAGA will be
>>>> | told to "leave" the party
>>
>> Another life-long conservative Republican says:
>
>> |
>> | The GOP has chosen. They will nominate a man who attempted
>> | to overturn an election and seize power. We have eight
>> | months to save our republic & ensure Donald Trump is never
>> | anywhere near the Oval Office again. Join me in the fight
>> | for our nation's freedom.
>> |
>> <https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1765409100270309463>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Personally I feel Lara Trump is not a good choice, not because she isn't capable, but because the
> optics are really, really bad
Agreed - "bad optics".

> Trump is accusing the Biden family of being a crime syndicate yet he is installing members of his
> own family into high level positions.
> Never a good idea to do business with your immediate family.

Always use proxies ... basic Machiavelli.

However Donald is very very intent on completely
owning the GOP - fast. Maybe no time for the old
time-proven methods ?

> He needs to support someone who is very familiar with DC politics and how it works. Not an outsider.

Don't know if Lara is "familiar" or not. She'd been
kinda low-profile, so it's not clear.

Anyway, as for "RINOs" ... not EVERY Republican is a huge
Trump fan - and perhaps for some good reasons. Just because
they ain't Trump does not make them actual RINOs. Who and
what they DO support should be considered before passing
judgement.