On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:

> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.

Uncultivated hilly grassland?

Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.

--
Steve Hayes http://khanya.wordpress.com

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:51:11 -0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
> Uncultivated hilly grassland?

> Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.

Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)

--
Bob
Caller ID is no longer enough: I need Caller Justification

In message <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:

>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.

> Uncultivated hilly grassland?

Not exactly. The key to a moor is that the soil is highly acidic and the
plants that grow there are low scrub plants and grasses. Moors are
generally hilly or in among a hilly area.

> Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.

I'm not sure if Exmoor is a moor. Perhaps it is an ex moor. Or, more
likely the sorts of trees there are still smallish stubby trees?

(ex moor is a joke, I know perfectly well that is not the origin of the
name).

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>>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors"
>>> are.

All that I know about them is that you're not supposed to walk on them
without a hat. Or is that only for Ilkley Moor?

Sunburn protection, I suppose.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 2022-02-22, Lewis wrote:

> In message <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
>> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> Not exactly. The key to a moor is that the soil is highly acidic and the
> plants that grow there are low scrub plants and grasses. Moors are
> generally hilly or in among a hilly area.
>
>> Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>
> I'm not sure if Exmoor is a moor. Perhaps it is an ex moor. Or, more
> likely the sorts of trees there are still smallish stubby trees?
>
> (ex moor is a joke, I know perfectly well that is not the origin of the
> name).
>
> --
> Stone circles were common enough everywhere in the mountains. Druids
> built them as weather computers, and since it was always cheaper
> to build a new 33-Megalith circle than to upgrade an old slow
> one, there were generally plenty of ancient ones around --Lords
> and Ladies

An appropriate sig: the stone circles of the Peak District are on the
moors.

--
Random numbers should not be generated with a method chosen at random.
---Donald Knuth

In message <sv1vm6$cf4$1@dont-email.me> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors"
>>>> are.

> All that I know about them is that you're not supposed to walk on them
> without a hat. Or is that only for Ilkley Moor?

Probably good advice, they get a lot of rain, though a brolly is probably
more useful.

> Sunburn protection, I suppose.

That too, when it's not raining.

--
But just because you've seen me on your TV Doesn't mean I'm any more
enlightened than you

In article <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>
> > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
> Uncultivated hilly grassland?

Not even that.

Many moors in Britain are heath rather than grassland. Not cultivated
but managed for centuries by grazing and burning to sustain ecology,
wildlife, and the highly profitable shooting industry.

<https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2015.0342>

<https://www.heathertrust.co.uk/heather-management>

Janet.

In article <8is81hp2d4rdv43s4krnbt1evdmos0l478
@anodyne.nul.which.is.quite.invalid>,
gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid says...
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:51:11 -0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
> > Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>
> Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)

Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmoor

Janet

On 2022-02-22, Janet wrote:

> In article <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>
>> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> Not even that.
>
> Many moors in Britain are heath rather than grassland. Not cultivated
> but managed for centuries by grazing and burning to sustain ecology,
> wildlife, and the highly profitable shooting industry.

I guess moorland is like obscenity (can't define it...).

><https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2015.0342>
>
><https://www.heathertrust.co.uk/heather-management>
>
> Janet.

--
This was the story of Howard Beale: The first known instance of a man
who was killed because he had lousy ratings.

On 22-Feb-22 3:51, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>
Trees in the river valleys which cut through the moor, but only poor
grass & lots of bracken & heather on the tops.
Grazing sheep (or deer) would deal with any tree seedlings which tried
to grow there.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:25:49 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:

>In article <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>
>> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> Not even that.
>
> Many moors in Britain are heath rather than grassland. Not cultivated
>but managed for centuries by grazing and burning to sustain ecology,
>wildlife, and the highly profitable shooting industry.
>
><https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2015.0342>
>
><https://www.heathertrust.co.uk/heather-management>
>
>Janet.

There is moor information here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorland

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:29:30 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:

> > > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.

> > > Uncultivated hilly grassland?

> > > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.

> > Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)

> Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.

I apologize for my Execrable attempt at humor... ;-)

--
Bob
The people your parents warned you about

In article
<g88c1hp717bot1jimqeu26169li9uo7c9b@anodyne.nul.which.is.quite.invalid>,
gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid says...
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:29:30 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
> > > > Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> > > > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>
> > > Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)
>
> > Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.
>
> I apologize for my Execrable attempt at humor... ;-)

Remoors noted.

Janet

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:59:36 +0300, Opinicus
<gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:29:30 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:
>
>> > > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>
>> > > Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
>> > > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>
>> > Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)
>
>> Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.
>
>I apologize for my Execrable attempt at humor... ;-)

You only think that's funny because you were once a scrabble player.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:29:30 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:

>In article <8is81hp2d4rdv43s4krnbt1evdmos0l478
>@anodyne.nul.which.is.quite.invalid>,
>gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid says...
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:51:11 -0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
>> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>
>> > Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>>
>> > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>>
>> Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)
>
> Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.

As Dartmoor is named for the river Dart.

--
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Le 22/02/2022 à 13:25, Janet a écrit :
> In article <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>
>> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>
> Not even that.
>
> Many moors in Britain are heath rather than grassland. Not cultivated
> but managed for centuries by grazing and burning to sustain ecology,
> wildlife, and the highly profitable shooting industry.
>
> <https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2015.0342>
>
> <https://www.heathertrust.co.uk/heather-management>
>
> Janet.

The OED has (sense 2.a): "A piece of unenclosed waste ground; (now
usually, esp. in British usage) uncultivated ground covered with
heather; a heath. Also: a tract of ground strictly preserved for shooting."

I don't think altitude has much to do with it. The Somerset Moors, for
instance, are low lying.

<https://www.somersetriversauthority.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Map-showing-the-areas-of-the-Somerset-Levels-and-Moors-.jpg>

The OS map tells me, if I'm reading it right, that West Sedge Moor - to
pick an example - is less than 10m ASL.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, at 11:32:35, Hibou posted:
>Le 22/02/2022 à 13:25, Janet a écrit :
>> In article <sv1mjf$dn2$6@dont-email.me>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:56:13 -0800, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>>
>>> Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>> Not even that.
>> Many moors in Britain are heath rather than grassland. Not
>>cultivated
>> but managed for centuries by grazing and burning to sustain ecology,
>> wildlife, and the highly profitable shooting industry.
>> <https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2015.0342>
>> <https://www.heathertrust.co.uk/heather-management>
>> Janet.
>
>The OED has (sense 2.a): "A piece of unenclosed waste ground; (now
>usually, esp. in British usage) uncultivated ground covered with
>heather; a heath. Also: a tract of ground strictly preserved for
>shooting."
>
>I don't think altitude has much to do with it. The Somerset Moors, for
>instance, are low lying.
>
><https://www.somersetriversauthority.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/M
>ap-showing-the-areas-of-the-Somerset-Levels-and-Moors-.jpg>
>
>The OS map tells me, if I'm reading it right, that West Sedge Moor - to
>pick an example - is less than 10m ASL.

Sedge is a plant of marshes and fens, so that's no surprise.
--
Paul

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, at 12:45:49, Steve Hayes posted:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:29:30 -0000, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:
>>gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid says...
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:51:11 -0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
>>>
>>> > > Here in North America, i'm not sure what "the English Moors" are.
>>>
>>> > Uncultivated hilly grassland?
>>>
>>> > Except Exmoor seems to have a lot of trees.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's why it's called "Ex-Moor"? ;-)
>>
>> Nope. It's named for the river Exe, whose source is in Exmoor.
>
>As Dartmoor is named for the river Dart.
>
And its parents East Dart and West Dart.
--
Paul