What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
something close to a [Dad-joke]

crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png

(apparently, i can make new threads again) HH

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
> something close to a [Dad-joke]

there's a pun on Odysseus's name and Odious (?)
at the beginning of Homer's Odyssey... i know about that one.

>
> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
>
>
> (apparently, i can make new threads again)

(and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel getting the grease.)

henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
>> something close to a [Dad-joke]
>
>
> there's a pun on Odysseus's name and Odious (?)
> at the beginning of Homer's Odyssey... i know about that one.
>
>
>
>>
>> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
>>
>>
>> (apparently, i can make new threads again)
>
> (and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel getting the grease.)
I think Cicero could have made a decent living as a stand-up comedian if
all else had failed. His letters are full of puns. Here's one. I wish
you ships without a prow or stern; "naves" >>> "ave".
Quintilian wrote that the best joke he knew was Cicero at the trial of
Milo, accused of killing Publius Clodius, Cicero's arch-enemy. He was
asked at what time Clodius died, and answered "sero"; either "late" or
"too late" in meaning.
I once made up a Cicero-style pun when I was a student.
After executing some Catilinarian conspirators without trial, Cicero
said (history recalls) "vixerunt" (they have lived, apparently a ritual
expression for "they've ceased to be"). I think Cicero might have then
mumbled under his breath to friends around him "vix erunt nobis posthac
molesti" (they're hardly likely to cause us any trouble hereafter).
Hic iacet Marcus Tullius Cicero
(sine capite et manibus)
Totum cursum honorum explevit
Nos e coniuratione Catilinae servavit
Eloquentia humanitate philosophia praevaluit
Et fuit summus κωμικός.
Edus hoc monumentum erexit.
Ed

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 4:54:53 AM UTC-8, Ed Cryer wrote:
> henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
> >> something close to a [Dad-joke]
> >
> >
> > there's a pun on Odysseus's name and Odious (?)
> > at the beginning of Homer's Odyssey... i know about that one.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
> >>
> >>
> >> (apparently, i can make new threads again)
> >
> > (and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel getting the grease.)

> I think Cicero could have made a decent living as a stand-up comedian if
> all else had failed. His letters are full of puns. Here's one. I wish
> you ships without a prow or stern; "naves" >>> "ave".

i get the joke. ... pls give me a few words in Latin so i can look it up.

>
> Quintilian wrote that the best joke he knew was Cicero at the trial of
> Milo, accused of killing Publius Clodius, Cicero's arch-enemy. He was
> asked at what time Clodius died, and answered "sero"; either "late" or
> "too late" in meaning.
>
> I once made up a Cicero-style pun when I was a student.
> After executing some Catilinarian conspirators without trial, Cicero
> said (history recalls) "vixerunt" (they have lived, apparently a ritual
> expression for "they've ceased to be"). I think Cicero might have then
> mumbled under his breath to friends around him "vix erunt nobis posthac
> molesti" (they're hardly likely to cause us any trouble hereafter).
>
> Hic iacet Marcus Tullius Cicero
> (sine capite et manibus)
> Totum cursum honorum explevit
> Nos e coniuratione Catilinae servavit
> Eloquentia humanitate philosophia praevaluit
> Et fuit summus κωμικός.
> Edus hoc monumentum erexit.
>
> Ed

thank you... i'll need some time to process all this.

one of my fav songs from college days contains the line

> Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.

____________________

Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
Post jucundam juventutem,
Post molestam senectutem,
Nos habebit humus, Nos habebit humus.

____________________

This is Google's cache of https://www.answers.com/Q/What_are_lyrics_fo_Come_Boys_Let's_all_be_gay_boys_from_Romberg's_Student_Prince

2010-09-04

Most versions of the drinking song that you can find online do not have all the lyrics I recall from a recording my parents had back in the 50's. Here is a section that is hard to find.

To the Inn we're marching, for our throats are parching.
Under fruit tree arching in the month of May;
For there's no good fellow, when he's feeling mellow,
to the beer so yellow would say nay,

All in step we're swinging while we join in singing,
with our voices ringing in a merry rhyme.
There Is joy, a-bounding in our song resounding
while our steins are pounding all the time.

Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.
All good students love the ladies,

Homer, Xerxes, Xenophon. Twice as bad againophon.
All good teachers go to Hades.

Chemistry, advanced Biology, -ology,
Do not merit an apology;

Higher math. Stirs up wrath; Latin prose, thumb your nose.

Julius Caesar, he's a teaser. History's a mystery

( refrain : )

Come boys, let's all be gay boys, for educations should be scientific play, boys.
Don't waste your time with books, boys, for every prudent student studies women's looks.

When old professors prate, boys, that we will flunk because we're drunk don't hesitate.
Though we get B-minus, it isn't on account of shyness.
We cut their classes for their dryness, boys.
In drinking we will graduate.

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:47:20 AM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 4:54:53 AM UTC-8, Ed Cryer wrote:
> > henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
> > >> something close to a [Dad-joke]
> > >
> > >
> > > there's a pun on Odysseus's name and Odious (?)
> > > at the beginning of Homer's Odyssey... i know about that one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (apparently, i can make new threads again)
> > >
> > > (and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel getting the grease.)
>
>
> > I think Cicero could have made a decent living as a stand-up comedian if
> > all else had failed. His letters are full of puns. Here's one. I wish
> > you ships without a prow or stern; "naves" >>> "ave".
> i get the joke. ... pls give me a few words in Latin so i can look it up.
> >
> > Quintilian wrote that the best joke he knew was Cicero at the trial of
> > Milo, accused of killing Publius Clodius, Cicero's arch-enemy. He was
> > asked at what time Clodius died, and answered "sero"; either "late" or
> > "too late" in meaning.
> >
> > I once made up a Cicero-style pun when I was a student.
> > After executing some Catilinarian conspirators without trial, Cicero
> > said (history recalls) "vixerunt" (they have lived, apparently a ritual
> > expression for "they've ceased to be"). I think Cicero might have then
> > mumbled under his breath to friends around him "vix erunt nobis posthac
> > molesti" (they're hardly likely to cause us any trouble hereafter).
> >
> > Hic iacet Marcus Tullius Cicero
> > (sine capite et manibus)
> > Totum cursum honorum explevit
> > Nos e coniuratione Catilinae servavit
> > Eloquentia humanitate philosophia praevaluit
> > Et fuit summus κωμικός.
> > Edus hoc monumentum erexit.
> >
> > Ed
> thank you... i'll need some time to process all this.
>
>
> one of my fav songs from college days contains the line
>
> > Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.
>
>
>
> ____________________
>
> Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
> Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
> Post jucundam juventutem,
> Post molestam senectutem,
> Nos habebit humus, Nos habebit humus.
>
> ____________________
>
> This is Google's cache of https://www.answers.com/Q/What_are_lyrics_fo_Come_Boys_Let's_all_be_gay_boys_from_Romberg's_Student_Prince
>
> 2010-09-04
>
> Most versions of the drinking song that you can find online do not have all the lyrics I recall from a recording my parents had back in the 50's. Here is a section that is hard to find.
>
>
>
> To the Inn we're marching, for our throats are parching.
> Under fruit tree arching in the month of May;
> For there's no good fellow, when he's feeling mellow,
> to the beer so yellow would say nay,
>
> All in step we're swinging while we join in singing,
> with our voices ringing in a merry rhyme.
> There Is joy, a-bounding in our song resounding
> while our steins are pounding all the time.
>
>
> Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.
> All good students love the ladies,
>
> Homer, Xerxes, Xenophon. Twice as bad againophon.
> All good teachers go to Hades.
>
> Chemistry, advanced Biology, -ology,
> Do not merit an apology;
>
> Higher math. Stirs up wrath; Latin prose, thumb your nose.
>
> Julius Caesar, he's a teaser. History's a mystery
>
>
> ( refrain : )
>
> Come boys, let's all be gay boys, for educations should be scientific play, boys.
> Don't waste your time with books, boys, for every prudent student studies women's looks.
>
> When old professors prate, boys, that we will flunk because we're drunk don't hesitate.
> Though we get B-minus, it isn't on account of shyness.
> We cut their classes for their dryness, boys.
> In drinking we will graduate.

this version is amazing :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJBZj0tOWw

The Student Prince - Marina Prior - Come Boys

(12,274 views ------- Jun 18, 2009 )

Marina Prior plays Kathy and Simon Gallaher plays The Student Prince in 1987

henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:47:20 AM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 4:54:53 AM UTC-8, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp. interested in
>>>>> something close to a [Dad-joke]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there's a pun on Odysseus's name and Odious (?)
>>>> at the beginning of Homer's Odyssey... i know about that one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (apparently, i can make new threads again)
>>>>
>>>> (and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel getting the grease.)
>>
>>
>>> I think Cicero could have made a decent living as a stand-up comedian if
>>> all else had failed. His letters are full of puns. Here's one. I wish
>>> you ships without a prow or stern; "naves" >>> "ave".
>> i get the joke. ... pls give me a few words in Latin so i can look it up.
>>>
>>> Quintilian wrote that the best joke he knew was Cicero at the trial of
>>> Milo, accused of killing Publius Clodius, Cicero's arch-enemy. He was
>>> asked at what time Clodius died, and answered "sero"; either "late" or
>>> "too late" in meaning.
>>>
>>> I once made up a Cicero-style pun when I was a student.
>>> After executing some Catilinarian conspirators without trial, Cicero
>>> said (history recalls) "vixerunt" (they have lived, apparently a ritual
>>> expression for "they've ceased to be"). I think Cicero might have then
>>> mumbled under his breath to friends around him "vix erunt nobis posthac
>>> molesti" (they're hardly likely to cause us any trouble hereafter).
>>>
>>> Hic iacet Marcus Tullius Cicero
>>> (sine capite et manibus)
>>> Totum cursum honorum explevit
>>> Nos e coniuratione Catilinae servavit
>>> Eloquentia humanitate philosophia praevaluit
>>> Et fuit summus κωμικός.
>>> Edus hoc monumentum erexit.
>>>
>>> Ed
>> thank you... i'll need some time to process all this.
>>
>>
>> one of my fav songs from college days contains the line
>>
>>> Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________
>>
>> Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
>> Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus,
>> Post jucundam juventutem,
>> Post molestam senectutem,
>> Nos habebit humus, Nos habebit humus.
>>
>> ____________________
>>
>> This is Google's cache of https://www.answers.com/Q/What_are_lyrics_fo_Come_Boys_Let's_all_be_gay_boys_from_Romberg's_Student_Prince
>>
>> 2010-09-04
>>
>> Most versions of the drinking song that you can find online do not have all the lyrics I recall from a recording my parents had back in the 50's. Here is a section that is hard to find.
>>
>>
>>
>> To the Inn we're marching, for our throats are parching.
>> Under fruit tree arching in the month of May;
>> For there's no good fellow, when he's feeling mellow,
>> to the beer so yellow would say nay,
>>
>> All in step we're swinging while we join in singing,
>> with our voices ringing in a merry rhyme.
>> There Is joy, a-bounding in our song resounding
>> while our steins are pounding all the time.
>>
>>
>> Cato, Plato, Cicero, They all make me sickero.
>> All good students love the ladies,
>>
>> Homer, Xerxes, Xenophon. Twice as bad againophon.
>> All good teachers go to Hades.
>>
>> Chemistry, advanced Biology, -ology,
>> Do not merit an apology;
>>
>> Higher math. Stirs up wrath; Latin prose, thumb your nose.
>>
>> Julius Caesar, he's a teaser. History's a mystery
>>
>>
>> ( refrain : )
>>
>> Come boys, let's all be gay boys, for educations should be scientific play, boys.
>> Don't waste your time with books, boys, for every prudent student studies women's looks.
>>
>> When old professors prate, boys, that we will flunk because we're drunk don't hesitate.
>> Though we get B-minus, it isn't on account of shyness.
>> We cut their classes for their dryness, boys.
>> In drinking we will graduate.
>
>
> this version is amazing :
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJBZj0tOWw
>
> The Student Prince - Marina Prior - Come Boys
>
> (12,274 views ------- Jun 18, 2009 )
>
> Marina Prior plays Kathy and Simon Gallaher plays The Student Prince in 1987
Gaudeamus igitur......
That was my school song, to the tune of Brahms. Sung in a morning
assembly of all boys; while most of them were singing "Cows' pyjamas,
pigs' manure, mix it up and make it pure". I never sang that; I was a
serious student, and I thought the ancient world held some secret of
well-being that had got lost.
Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:
> henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:15:23 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> What are some OLDest puns ? (in Greek, Latin, ...) --- i'm esp.
>>> interested in
>>> something close to a [Dad-joke]
>>
>>
>>    there's a pun on Odysseus's  name and Odious (?)
>>                        at the beginning of  Homer's  Odyssey...   i
>> know about that one.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> crossword puzzle : i.redd.it/vawoj5g032fa1.png
>>>
>>>
>>> (apparently, i can make new threads again)
>>
>> (and this could be a case of a Squeaky wheel  getting the grease.)
>
> I think Cicero could have made a decent living as a stand-up comedian if
> all else had failed. His letters are full of puns. Here's one. I wish
> you ships without a prow or stern; "naves" >>> "ave".
>
> Quintilian wrote that the best joke he knew was Cicero at the trial of
> Milo, accused of killing Publius Clodius, Cicero's arch-enemy. He was
> asked at what time Clodius died, and answered "sero"; either "late" or
> "too late" in meaning.
>
> I once made up a Cicero-style pun when I was a student.
> After executing some Catilinarian conspirators without trial, Cicero
> said (history recalls) "vixerunt" (they have lived, apparently a ritual
> expression for "they've ceased to be"). I think Cicero might have then
> mumbled under his breath to friends around him "vix erunt nobis posthac
> molesti" (they're hardly likely to cause us any trouble hereafter).
>
> Hic iacet Marcus Tullius Cicero
> (sine capite et manibus)
> Totum cursum honorum explevit
> Nos e coniuratione Catilinae servavit
> Eloquentia humanitate philosophia praevaluit
> Et fuit summus κωμικός.
> Edus hoc monumentum erexit.
>
> Ed
>
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You all know me; Rome's greatest product. Caesar can sure wipe 'em out,
Pompey looks great in uniform, but me, I am the greatest. I float like a
butterfly and sting like a bee.
You know, Caesar's going bald; but look at these locks - luxurious and
coloured.
(Heckle from audience; You murder untried prisoners)
I do nothing of the sort, but I'll gladly murder you.
(Loud applause)
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Now listen, Greeks are great!
(Audience hisses and boos)
No, they really are. Just look at those well-trimmed beards!
(to be continued)
Ed