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* Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)Mats Winther
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Subject: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
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For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm

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Subject: Re: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 9:23:16 AM UTC+2, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
> For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm

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I don't want to be educated on those horrible deformities.

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Subject: Re: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 12:23:16 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
> For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm

The idea behind Makpong could be applied to orthodox chess as well to create
a tiebreaker variant!

John Savard

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Subject: Re: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
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 by: Mats Winther - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:36 UTC

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:25:03 AM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 12:23:16 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm
> The idea behind Makpong could be applied to orthodox chess as well to create
> a tiebreaker variant!
>
> John Savard

True, it works very well, because it is very different than "first check wins".

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Subject: Re: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
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 by: Quadibloc - Mon, 20 Dec 2021 12:15 UTC

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 5:36:33 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:25:03 AM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 12:23:16 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm

> > The idea behind Makpong could be applied to orthodox chess as well to create
> > a tiebreaker variant!

> True, it works very well, because it is very different than "first check wins".

I thank you for your informative page.

I hadn't looked in detail at the differences between the Thai quick variant and the
Cambodian quick variant. While I felt that Makpong was likely to be superior, I
will have to admit I didn't know how much difference there would be in practice
between it and the Cambodian variant - presumably related - of "first check wins",
since opportunities to get out of check by interposition, or capturing the checking
piece are often not available, it seemed to me that while there is a difference, it
likely would not be great.

If Makpong _is_ applied to Western/International chess, I suspect the rule for it
might be worded like this: (in this variant) when the King is in check, it may not
move except to capture the checking piece.

John Savard

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Subject: Re: Cambodian Chess (Ok) and Thai Chess (Makruk)
From: malwi...@gmail.com (Mats Winther)
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 by: Mats Winther - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 06:38 UTC

On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 1:15:12 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 5:36:33 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:25:03 AM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 12:23:16 AM UTC-7, malw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > For your education: http://mlwi.magix.net/bg/cambodianchess.htm
>
> > > The idea behind Makpong could be applied to orthodox chess as well to create
> > > a tiebreaker variant!
> > True, it works very well, because it is very different than "first check wins".
> I thank you for your informative page.
>
> I hadn't looked in detail at the differences between the Thai quick variant and the
> Cambodian quick variant. While I felt that Makpong was likely to be superior, I
> will have to admit I didn't know how much difference there would be in practice
> between it and the Cambodian variant - presumably related - of "first check wins",
> since opportunities to get out of check by interposition, or capturing the checking
> piece are often not available, it seemed to me that while there is a difference, it
> likely would not be great.
>
> If Makpong _is_ applied to Western/International chess, I suspect the rule for it
> might be worded like this: (in this variant) when the King is in check, it may not
> move except to capture the checking piece.
>
> John Savard

In Makpong, also another piece can capture the checking piece, or it can go between. So there's a big difference compared with "first check wins".

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