Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela

Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
aby obalic kapitalizm:

"[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
John Smith

Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ), a John Smith dopatrzyl sie wrecz,
ze papieros byl, prosze sobie wyobrazic .... z filtrem!!!
John Smith: "Pali papierosa... z filtrem. Tutaj ujecie: [https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay]"

Stad oczyma wyobrazni juz wtedy widzialem scenke:

" John Smith, dyskretnie, do mikrofonu w rekawie: "pali papierosa... z filtrem"
- Zapali pan?
- Dziękuję, palę tylko cygara z filtrem
- Jakiej firmy?
- Przed wojną paliłem hawańskie, firmy Pedro Gomez.
- Najlepsze kasztany na Placu Grunwaldzkim?
- Pan Andrew lubi je tylko jesienia.
- Przesyla ci swieza Basie!"

Z Panskiego obecnego odgrzania tego tematu - czul sie Pan tym niedowartosciowany i uwaza ze zasluguje
na bardziej znaczaca role w tej scence?

=Piotr

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:34:35 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> aby obalic kapitalizm:
>
> "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> John Smith
>
> Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ), a John Smith dopatrzyl sie wrecz,
> ze papieros byl, prosze sobie wyobrazic .... z filtrem!!!
> John Smith: "Pali papierosa... z filtrem. Tutaj ujecie: [https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay]"
>
> Stad oczyma wyobrazni juz wtedy widzialem scenke:
>
> " John Smith, dyskretnie, do mikrofonu w rekawie: "pali papierosa... z filtrem"
> - Zapali pan?
> - Dziękuję, palę tylko cygara z filtrem
> - Jakiej firmy?
> - Przed wojną paliłem hawańskie, firmy Pedro Gomez.
> - Najlepsze kasztany na Placu Grunwaldzkim?
> - Pan Andrew lubi je tylko jesienia.
> - Przesyla ci swieza Basie!"
>
> Z Panskiego obecnego odgrzania tego tematu - czul sie Pan tym niedowartosciowany i uwaza ze zasluguje
> na bardziej znaczaca role w tej scence?
>
> ==
> Piotr

Troche dziwne tj intrygujace dlaczego to akurat musialo byc po angielsku. I co tutaj bylo celem a co srodkiem. A te ‘oryginalne materialy’ to byly po prostu anglojezyczne zrodla. No Basia ma sporo fantazji i dzieli sie tutaj nimi z nami nader obficie to i moze dopatrzyla sie w tym jakiegos szkolenia agentow. Ale to Basia i nikt jej na serio nie bierze, nawet jej kobiecosci, bo wszak na jej rzecz pan Edward by chyba jednak nie poswiecil swoich klejnotow, mniemam.

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
>
> Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> aby obalic kapitalizm:
>
> "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> John Smith

Piotr znowu manipuluje, zwymysla tym
razem oskarzenia. Nikt nie demaskowal
"KGB'owca" tylko znalazl potwierdzenie
Piotrowego zatrudnienia na Czerwonym
Uniwersytecie ...zarzadzanym przez
ideologicznego komuniste Kazimierza
Jaskota, na ktorym to uniwerku SB'ecja
(kpt.Cholewa) oraz inni podobni szykanowali
studentow oraz wymagali od pracownikow
przynaleznosci do PZPR.

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela

Dowod zatrudnienia na Univ. Szczecinskim
zostal podany takze w kontekscie omijania
przez Piotra odpowiedzi na pytanie o
przynaleznosc do PZPR.

> Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ),

Znowu maipulacja! Komentarz nie mial
byc dowodem niczyjej agenturalnosci.

Komentarz o "kurewskim towarzystwie"
dotyczyl zdjecia mezczyzny palacego papierosa
naprzeciwko Teczowej Apteki wskazujacego
reka na swoje przyrodzenie, na swoj rozporek (!),
pozniej wskazujacego reka na pobliski parczek.
Zdjecie sprawiajace wrazenie skladania
homoseksualnej propozycji potwierdzajace
moje przypuszczenia ze okolica, w tym
parczek maja tradycje homoseksualnej
prostytucji.

Calosc zapodana nie jako dowod
Piotrowej agenturalnosci tylko sugestia
ze Piotr jest swiadomy homoseksualnej
historii parczku i jego okolicy. Pytany
nie chce rzeczy potwierdzic ...w domysle
wstydzi sie ze prowadzil tam swoja
dzialalnosc propagandowa, swoje
wieczory angielskie.

Zdjecia jeszcze wisza w Netcie.
Mozna sobie zobaczyc samemu.

Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:

"Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski"
w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto
inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg

O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca
homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie
przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!

https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay

https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397212,14.5518211,3a,54.1y,318.48h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay

-------------------
Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 6:36:19 PM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> >
> > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> >
> > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > John Smith
> Piotr znowu manipuluje, zwymysla tym
> razem oskarzenia. Nikt nie demaskowal
> "KGB'owca" tylko znalazl potwierdzenie
> Piotrowego zatrudnienia na Czerwonym
> Uniwersytecie ...zarzadzanym przez
> ideologicznego komuniste Kazimierza
> Jaskota, na ktorym to uniwerku SB'ecja
> (kpt.Cholewa) oraz inni podobni szykanowali
> studentow oraz wymagali od pracownikow
> przynaleznosci do PZPR.
>
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
>
> Dowod zatrudnienia na Univ. Szczecinskim
> zostal podany takze w kontekscie omijania
> przez Piotra odpowiedzi na pytanie o
> przynaleznosc do PZPR.
>
> > Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ),
> Znowu maipulacja! Komentarz nie mial
> byc dowodem niczyjej agenturalnosci.
>
> Komentarz o "kurewskim towarzystwie"
> dotyczyl zdjecia mezczyzny palacego papierosa
> naprzeciwko Teczowej Apteki wskazujacego
> reka na swoje przyrodzenie, na swoj rozporek (!),
> pozniej wskazujacego reka na pobliski parczek.

Chronologia zdarzenia czy tez kolejnosc
rzeczy, tzn. wskazywanie przez mezczyzne
na swoj rozporek a pozniej gestykulowanie
reka w kierunku parczku zostala wydedukowana
z pozycji znajdujacego sie w tle przechodnia.

Na pierwszym zdjeciu przechodzien w tle
maszeruje w kierunku mezczyzny:

https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397672,14.5516651,3a,42.7y,268.4h,74.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLJSlo5scvul9aGfUBfTfdg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Chwileczke pozniej przechodzien zrobil
kilka krokow i minal juz mezczyzne gdy
ten zaczal wskazywac reka na pobliski
parczek.

https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay

https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,45.3y,289.62h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Piotr zna ten parczek doskonale, nie tylko
w jego poblizu prowadzil swoje "wieczory
angielskie" ale takze uczeszczal do
znajdujacego sie kilkaset metrow od
parczu Liceum. W kazdym miescie
sa takie lokacje, skwerki czy parczki
gdzie w poblizu zazwyczaj wieczorami
ma miejsce prostytucja, w tym homoseksualna.
Owiane sa nieslawa, spowite milczeniem,
rodzice trzymaja swoje pociechy z daleka
od tych miejsc.

Nie dziwilo by i milczenie Piotra w temacie
nieslawnego skwerku...ale On musi jeszcze
manipulowac, dorabiac cudze tezy, falszywe
oskarzenia, itd. Manipulant manipuluje
mozna by powiedziec, ...ale temat wydaje sie
wracac. Parczek i pamiec o nim wydaje sie
nie dawac Piotrowi spokoju.

Moze brudna buzia ze zdjecia, ma z tym cos
wspolnego, moze cos innego dziure w brzuchu
wierci. Licho, wie.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

> Zdjecie sprawiajace wrazenie skladania
> homoseksualnej propozycji potwierdzajace
> moje przypuszczenia ze okolica, w tym
> parczek maja tradycje homoseksualnej
> prostytucji.
>
> Calosc zapodana nie jako dowod
> Piotrowej agenturalnosci tylko sugestia
> ze Piotr jest swiadomy homoseksualnej
> historii parczku i jego okolicy. Pytany
> nie chce rzeczy potwierdzic ...w domysle
> wstydzi sie ze prowadzil tam swoja
> dzialalnosc propagandowa, swoje
> wieczory angielskie.
>
> Zdjecia jeszcze wisza w Netcie.
> Mozna sobie zobaczyc samemu.
>
> Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
>
> "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski"
> w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto
> inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
>
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
>
> O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca
> homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie
> przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay
>
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>
> https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397212,14.5518211,3a,54.1y,318.48h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay
>
> -------------------
> Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:27:06 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:34:35 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> >
> > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > John Smith
> >
> > Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ), a John Smith dopatrzyl sie wrecz,
> > ze papieros byl, prosze sobie wyobrazic .... z filtrem!!!
> > John Smith: "Pali papierosa... z filtrem. Tutaj ujecie: [https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay]"
> >
> > Stad oczyma wyobrazni juz wtedy widzialem scenke:
> >
> > " John Smith, dyskretnie, do mikrofonu w rekawie: "pali papierosa... z filtrem"
> > - Zapali pan?
> > - Dziękuję, palę tylko cygara z filtrem
> > - Jakiej firmy?
> > - Przed wojną paliłem hawańskie, firmy Pedro Gomez.
> > - Najlepsze kasztany na Placu Grunwaldzkim?
> > - Pan Andrew lubi je tylko jesienia.
> > - Przesyla ci swieza Basie!"
> >
> > Z Panskiego obecnego odgrzania tego tematu - czul sie Pan tym niedowartosciowany i uwaza ze zasluguje
> > na bardziej znaczaca role w tej scence?
> >
> > ==
> > Piotr
> Troche dziwne tj intrygujace dlaczego to akurat musialo byc po angielsku.

Bo to bylo dla klubu ludzi uczacych sie ANGIELSKIEGO. Gdybym znal francuski i byl to klub ludzi uczacych sie
francuskiego, to byloby to po francusku.

> I co tutaj bylo celem a co srodkiem.

Nie umie Pan czytac?

Srodek: "pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym"

Cel: "[pokaz slajdow] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
John Smith

On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 3:36:19 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> >
> > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> >
> > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > John Smith

> Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
>
> "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski" w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
>
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
>
> O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'll take your word on it, Mr. Zwolan. You obviously must have a vast experience in homosexual prostitution
if you were able to identify, with unwavering certainty, such a location in a city you have never been, SOLELY on the
basis of a single image from Google Maps Streetview.

What I have found interesting is that of all people - _you_ be the only who tries to discredit an opponent
by associating them with homosexuality. What do they say about some homophobes ... ?

But then again - you were the person who remotely and without knowing a single person involved, was able to
determine that the 1,200 women, reporting being sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany were:
- "depraved German bitches"
-"whores",
- "German whores in search of colored penises"
Edward Zwolan

while describing those whom the women accused (and whom you also never met) as:
- "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right".
- " virile randy Semites"
- "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia says: "Hola!"

And all that hatred toward women - by the very person who claims to be a woman ("Basia", "she/her").
Edward Zwolan - everybody.

On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 3:36:19 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> >
> > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> >
> > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > John Smith

> Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
>
> "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski" w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
>
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
>
> O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'll take your word on it, Mr. Zwolan. You obviously must have a vast experience in homosexual prostitution
if you were able to identify, with unwavering certainty, such a location in a city you have never been, SOLELY on the
basis of a single image from Google Maps Streetview.

What I have found interesting is that of all people - _you_ be the one who tries to discredit an opponent
by associating them with homosexuality. What do they say about some homophobes ... ?

But then again - you were the person who remotely and without knowing a single person involved, was jhjable to
determine that the 1,200 women, reporting being sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany were:
- "depraved German bitches"
-"whores",
- "German whores in search of colored penises"
Edward Zwolan

while describing those whom the women accused (and whom you also never met) as:
- "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right".
- " virile randy Semites"
- "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia says: "Hola!"

And all that hatred toward women - by the very person who claims to be a woman ("Basia", "she/her"). Well. a woman
who "loves [her] testosterone".

Edward Zwolan - everybody

On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:57:42 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 3:36:19 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > >
> > > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> > >
> > > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > > John Smith
> > Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
> >
> > "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski" w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
> >
> > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
> >
> > O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> > tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
> https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>
> I'll take your word on it, Mr. Zwolan. You obviously must have a vast experience in homosexual prostitution
> if you were able to identify, with unwavering certainty, such a location in a city you have never been, SOLELY on the
> basis of a single image from Google Maps Streetview.
>
> What I have found interesting is that of all people - _you_ be the one who tries to discredit an opponent
> by associating them with homosexuality. What do they say about some homophobes ... ?
>
> But then again - you were the person who remotely and without knowing a single person involved, was jhjable to
> determine that the 1,200 women, reporting being sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany were:
> - "depraved German bitches"
> -"whores",
> - "German whores in search of colored penises"
> Edward Zwolan
>
> while describing those whom the women accused (and whom you also never met) as:
> - "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right".
> - " virile randy Semites"
> - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia says: "Hola!"
>
> And all that hatred toward women - by the very person who claims to be a woman ("Basia", "she/her"). Well. a woman
> who "loves [her] testosterone".
>
> Edward Zwolan - everybody

Piotr Trela himself, persistently and
repeatedly mentions GoogleMaps photos
showing displays of questionable erotic
and likely homosexual behavior, rightfully
described by Basia as "kurewskie" (whorish),
yet Piotr attempts to accuse Basia by name
of purpousefully linking him with homosexuality.

> Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ),

I have no clue whether Piotr Trela is a
homosexual or not, and honestly have
no interest in his sexual orientation or
experiences. I merely asked him about
the history of a location- a place with
which he is familiar with repeatedly
keeps referencing and alluding to photos
of, yet prefers not to answer any questions
about.

I suggested some potentially bad experiences
with the location as possible reason.

Photos show a man standing in front
of the Rainbow Pharmacy, pointing at his
groin and gesticulating towards a nearby
park.

https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397212,14.5518211,3a,54.1y,318.48h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay

Basia (Ona/Jej)

> Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ),

On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 4:08:44 PM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> Photos show a man standing in front
> of the Rainbow Pharmacy,

Apteka Teczowa, in the Polsh language.

> pointing at his groin and gesticulating towards
> a nearby park.

https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397212,14.5518211,3a,54.1y,318.48h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://tinyurl.com/yczfsjay

Basia (Ona/Jej)

Piotr Trela:

> Mojej winy dopelnia fakt, ze "pani Barbara" ustalila ze jakies 25 lat pozniej na przystanku tramwajowym ... stal jakis facet, ktory palil papierosa (jej komentarz: "co za kurewskie towarzystwo" ),

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 1:08:44 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:57:42 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 3:36:19 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > > >
> > > > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > > > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > > > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > > > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> > > >
> > > > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > > > John Smith
> > > Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
> > >
> > > "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski" w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
> > >
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
> > >
> > > O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> > > tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
> > https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
> >
> > I'll take your word on it, Mr. Zwolan. You obviously must have a vast experience in homosexual prostitution
> > if you were able to identify, with unwavering certainty, such a location in a city you have never been, SOLELY on the
> > basis of a single image from Google Maps Streetview.
> >
> > What I have found interesting is that of all people - _you_ be the one who tries to discredit an opponent
> > by associating them with homosexuality. What do they say about some homophobes ... ?
> >
> > But then again - you were the person who remotely and without knowing a single person involved, was jhjable to
> > determine that the 1,200 women, reporting being sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany were:
> > - "depraved German bitches"
> > -"whores",
> > - "German whores in search of colored penises"
> > Edward Zwolan
> >
> > while describing those whom the women accused (and whom you also never met) as:
> > - "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right".
> > - " virile randy Semites"
> > - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia says: "Hola!"
> >
> > And all that hatred toward women - by the very person who claims to be a woman ("Basia", "she/her"). Well. a woman
> > who "loves [her] testosterone".
> >
> > Edward Zwolan - everybody
> Piotr Trela himself, persistently and repeatedly mentions GoogleMaps photos

dug out by ... Edward Zwolan - who unable to defend his despicable attacks on the 1,200 woman who reported sexual assaults during 2015/2016 new year in Germany, by calling them:
"depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises",

and then salivating at the thought of the length of ... penises of the accused:
- "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right", " virile randy Semites";
"nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them.
But Basia says: "Hola!"

tries to distract the reader by .. digging out a Streetview image of ... some random guy waiting at a streetcar stop in Szczecin, Poland, and apparently based on his experience (since he never was at the location)
he declares it a site of ... "homosexual prostitution" (orig. "miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie").

That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundred by bombing the threatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:

"Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
Edward Zwolan

By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
==Piotr Trela

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 1:08:44 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:57:42 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 3:36:19 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 1:34:35 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:46:33 PM UTC+2, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Nie musi pan przeciez odpowiadac ale intrygujace. Wojownicy Teczy…
> > > > > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > > > >
> > > > > Czlonkom dzielnicowego klubu jezyka angielskiego (stad "wieczor angielski" w tej notatce).
> > > > > Ale spoznil sie Pan - Panscy koledzy - "John Smith" i "pani Barbara", ktorzy pierwsi wyryli te notatke z
> > > > > lokalnej gazety sprzed kilkudziesieciu lat - juz zdemaskowali mnie, ze robilem to na zlecenie KGB
> > > > > aby obalic kapitalizm:
> > > > >
> > > > > "[pokaz slajdow w klubie dzielnicowym] byl wymierzony w zachodnie koncerny naftowe . ps: wsio paniatno"
> > > > > John Smith
> > > > Ponizej moj cytat i link do zdjec:
> > > >
> > > > "Na swoj kolejny "wieczor angielski" w poblize parczku zaprasza nie kto inny tylko Mgr. Piotr Trela:
> > > >
> > > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/?tag=mgr-piotr-trela
> > > > https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ks-24.05.88.jpg
> > > >
> > > > O potwierdzeniu lokacji jako miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie przez Piotra nie ma mowy. Piotr Trela
> > > > tego miejsca nie chce pamietac!
> > > https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,75y,252.08h,94.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
> > >
> > > I'll take your word on it, Mr. Zwolan. You obviously must have a vast experience in homosexual prostitution
> > > if you were able to identify, with unwavering certainty, such a location in a city you have never been, SOLELY on the
> > > basis of a single image from Google Maps Streetview.
> > >
> > > What I have found interesting is that of all people - _you_ be the one who tries to discredit an opponent
> > > by associating them with homosexuality. What do they say about some homophobes ... ?
> > >
> > > But then again - you were the person who remotely and without knowing a single person involved, was jhjable to
> > > determine that the 1,200 women, reporting being sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany were:
> > > - "depraved German bitches"
> > > -"whores",
> > > - "German whores in search of colored penises"
> > > Edward Zwolan

What does a provocation staged by
the German Far-Right have to do with this
thread and the discussion here?

None of the accused in the New Year's
celebrations in Cologne were found guilty
of sexual assaults by German courts.
A few pick-pocketers were charged and
convicted. Because of contributory factors
German authorities did not prosecute anyone.
Some women were prostitutes and elements
of provocation were present. The whole incident
likely being staged by the German far right.

Of course if you are a Trela, this doesn't
matter at all as presumption of innocence
means little for many a Trela.

Urszula Chmielewska-Trela, a Communist
vice-Prosecutor during the harsh Martial Law
period in Szczecin, Poland, Piotr Trela's hometown.

Wice-prokurator Prokuratury Rejonowej
w Szczecinie, Urszula Chmielewska-Trela,
24.09.1982 ...o postępowaniach szczególnych
w sprawach o przestępstwo i wykroczenia
w czasie obowiązywania stanu wojennego.

https://polskiemiesiace.ipn.gov.pl/mie/form/r26150654140755,6271.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_National_Remembrance

Basia (Ona/Jej)

> > > while describing those whom the women accused (and whom you also never met) as:
> > > - "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right".
> > > - " virile randy Semites"
> > > - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia says: "Hola!"
> > >
> > > And all that hatred toward women - by the very person who claims to be a woman ("Basia", "she/her"). Well. a woman
> > > who "loves [her] testosterone".
> > >
> > > Edward Zwolan - everybody
> > Piotr Trela himself, persistently and repeatedly mentions GoogleMaps photos
> dug out by ... Edward Zwolan - who unable to defend his despicable attacks on the 1,200 woman who reported sexual assaults during 2015/2016 new year in Germany, by calling them:
> "depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises",
>
> and then salivating at the thought of the length of ... penises of the accused:
> - "The young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] objectively were in the right", " virile randy Semites";
> "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them.
> But Basia says: "Hola!"
> tries to distract the reader by .. digging out a Streetview image of ... some random guy waiting at a streetcar stop in Szczecin, Poland, and apparently based on his experience (since he never was at the location)
> he declares it a site of ... "homosexual prostitution" (orig. "miejsca homoseksualnej prostytucji w Szczecinie").
>
> That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundred by bombing the threatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
>
> "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> Edward Zwolan
>
> By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
>
> ===
> Piotr Trela

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:

> That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundred by bombing the threatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
>
> "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> Edward Zwolan
>
> By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
>
> ===
> Piotr Trela

What does this have to do with the topic
discussed in this thread?

I think it reflects Piotr Trela's Communist
upbringing and totalitarian mental outlook.

In totalitarian communist societies if one
did not repeat State propaganda a slew
of sanctions could be expected from the
authorities and society in general.

During the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Piotr
Trela seeing his opponents not repeat
word-for-word mainstream media narratives
decided to publicize such behavior. The poor
totalitarian chap, decided to start translating
texts into English in hopes of reaching a broader
audience.

In this case Trela hopes to show the English
speaking world- everyone speaks Polish on
this forum (perhaps Trela is writing for posterity
or for his daughter Olga to read -who knows
what is on his mind), that Zwolan dares to believe
that Russians, at least at the beginning of the
campaingn, tried to minimize civilian losses.

According to data published by the UN High
Commisioner civilian losses in Ukraine up
to date (early July 2022) are still nearly twice
as small as civilian losses in other similar
conflicts, namely the NATO invasion of Iraq
in 2003 (during a simiral 4 month time interval).

Ukraine- 4,889 killed civilians.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/07/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-4-july-2022

Iraq 2003, first 4 months- approximately 8,557.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

For a totalitarian mind like Piotr Trela's,
facts mean nothing while parroting state
media is paramount!

Below is some general information that may
helpful in understanding Trela and his motives.

Polish authorities suggest the existence
of several thousand former SB informants
in today’s academic circles in Poland,
where Piotr Trela during the period of
communist Martial Law, or shortly thereafter,
has started his professional career.

"Decommunization" at universities
New regulations on lustration at universities. "They may concern even several thousand people"
https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

A compilation of publicly accessible
information about Piotr Trela is made
available below.

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/piotr-trela-81906b41
https://i0.wp.com/gazette.mun.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/biology.jpg
From left are project team members Drs. "Piotr Trela", "Sally Goddard", "Margaret Caldwell" and "Jane Costello". (Absent: Dr. "Anna Rissanen")

A tutaj nieco o Piotrze Treli:

1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem
ideologicznych komunistow Jaskotow.

Piotr Trela:
“Pania Jaskot znalem jako 7-latek”

2. Kazimierz Jaskot, czlonek KC PZPR
byl rektorem Czerwonego Uniwersytetu
kompletnie spenetrowanego przez SB'ecje
gdzie donosicielstwo i szykany oraz
wyrzucanie ze studiow byly codziennoscia.

Koniec Szkoly Serwilizmu str.5
http://ksi.home.pl/archiwaprzelomu/obrazy/AP-24-1-3-1_46.pdf

Czasy Mocno Polityczne
https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ks-28-30.01.2011-2..jpg

3. Piotr byl prosperujacym pracownikiem tego
wlasnie SB'eckiego Uniwersytetu i znajdowal
zatrudnienie w Zakladzie Teledetekcji specjalizujacym
sie w przeroznych formach elektronicznego nasluchu.

Piotr Trela: Szczecin University, Zaklad Teledetekcji
http://www.ices.dk/sites/pub/Publication%20Reports/Marine%20Science%20Symposia/Phase%202/Rapport%20et%20Proces-Verbaux%20des%20Reunions%20-%20Volume%20188%20-%201989%20-%20Partie%2040%20de%2071.pdf

4. Gdy Piotr byl jeszcze studentem w Gdansku
jego wspol-lokatorzy w akademickim pokoju
wpadali w rece SB'ecji, pozniej skazywani byli
na wieloletnie wyroki wiezienia.

Piotr Trela:
“…mojego kolegi z ktorym mieszkalem w jednym pokoju w
akademiku i ktory dostal 3 lata za przewozenie paru ulotek (i odsiedzial z
tego 2 lata).

5. Piotr bral udzial w licznych protestach
i zadymach przeciwko komunie, min. w Gdansku,
ale w obliczu milicyjnych lapanek nie uciekal.
Gdzie inni ryzykowali zdrowiem a nawet zyciem
by nie zostac pojmanym przez ZOMO, Piotr
pozostawal w miejscu.

Piotr Trela:
“…mielismy nadzieje, ze ZOMO nie zatrzyma
pociagu by nas wygarnac...pociag zatrzymal sie po ujechaniu
50 metrow. ZOMO wbieglo na peron i czekalo. Zrobilo sie nieprzyjemnie.
Niektorzy z nas zawierzyli swoim nogom - otwierali awaryjne drzwi z
drugiej strony i pryskali na tory …postanowilem zostac w pociagu,”

6. Piotr klamie twierdzac ze nie widzial na
oczy Jaskota, Rektora uniwersytetu na ktorym
byl pracownikiem naukowym (Uniwersytet Szczecinski
liczyl wtedy niewiele ponad 50 osob lokalnego grona
pedagogicznego, wiekszosc wykladowcow byla
wowczas wizytujaca).

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PTDC0003.jpg

7. Piotr Trela nawet dzisiaj grozi swoim oponentom
donosicielstwem (patrz cytat grozba donosu
oraz pobicia, "skucia mordy," w wypadku powrotu
do Polski!)

Piotr Trela:
“I jesli...przyjada kiedys do Polski to niech uwazaja - …ten ze zdjecia…dowie sie co o nim wypisujecie, to wam morde skuje.”

8. Piotr nie chce udzielic odpowiedzi na proste
pytania z ktorymi nikt na emigranckiej grupie
spolecznosciowej nie ma najmniejszego problemu,
np. kto w PRL rekomendowal na zagraniczne
studia doktoranckie do Kanady –Piotr przywoluje
prawo przestepcow do nie-samo-inkryminacji.

9. Piotr w pierwszym swoim tekscie opublikowanym
na Zachodzie zawarl donos. Poinformowal kanadyjska
publike ze Komunisci w Polsce nie sa prawdziwymi
Marksistami-Leninistami.

Piotr Trela:
"I wanted to see a believing Marxist-Lenninist with
my own eyes. Spending 29 years in a Marxist Lenninist
country I hadn't met any... . I was anxious to see my
first live Marxist-Leninist.

Strona nr. 7
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10222/52077/dalhousiegazette_volume122_issue4_september_28_1989.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

10. Piotr w przeciagu 27 lat dzialalnosci na grupie
dyskusyjnej soc.culture.polish napisal tysiace
reply'ow ale samemu nie otworzyl wiecej nizeli
kilkudziesieciu wlasnych watkow. Wiekszosc
dopiero wtedy gdy zostalo to zauwazone w
2016 roku, i zostala mu zwrocona uwaga.
Donosiciel, jego przelozeni, nie sa zainteresowani
przekazywaniem wlasnych opinii a gromadzeniem
cudzych.

11. Piotr od lat ulatwia prace donosicielom
ograniczajac swobode wypowiedzi w internecie;
pietnujac anonimowosc oraz domagajac sie by
wszyscy Internauci podpisywali sie swoimi
prawdziwymi imionami i nazwiskami.

12. Gdy Trybunał Praw Człowieka w Strasburgu
orzekł że Grzegorz Braun mial prawo nazwac
profesora Miodka SB'ekiem, Piotr Trela usilowal
ograniczyc swobode wypowiedzi Brauna
Argumentujac ze uczciwy system to taki w
ktorym "lepiej by winny uszedl karze niz zeby
niewinnego skrzywdzic."

Piotr zaczal bronic systemu prawnego
ktory nie wymierzyl sprawiedliwosci ani
jednemu z SB’eckich oprawcow zapominajac
ze Braun nie domagal sie kary dla SB'eka
tylko swobody wypowiedzi dla siebie.

13. Piotr w swoim nowym miejscu
zamieszkania szybko dal sie poznac
jako proponent internetowej cenzury,
nazywajac idiotami Nowofundlandczykow
uskarzajacych sie na cenzure w netcie.

14. Piotr zapytany na soc.culture.polish o
dokladna date swojego wyjazdu z PRL’u do
Kanada- w okresie rzadow Rakowieckiego
i Kiszczaka czy tez pozniej, gdy uzyskanie
paszportu nie bylo powiazane z probami
werbunku do wspolpracy ze Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa,
odpowiada milczeniem oraz natychmiastowym
i bezpowrotnym zerwaniem wieloletniego
kolezenstwa z pytajacym go p. Andrzejem Strakiem.

Czy Piotr byl SB'eckim donosicielem tego
niewiem, wiem tylko ze na Jaskotowym Uniwersytecie,
i nie tylko, byli tacy! Gdy zas komuna padala
w 1989r istniala czy tez mogla byc postrzegana
grozba ze donosiciele moga zostac zdemaskowani
i ukarani.

Z pewnoscia wladze Uniwerystetu Szczecinskiego
(SB'ecja, kapitan Cholewa, pro-rektor Homa,
Rektor Jaskot) czynili kroki by zapewnic
donosicielom nalezyte bezpieczenstwo, odwrot,
alibi, czy ewakuacje. Piotr wlasnie w tym okresie
czasu i jako pracownik uniwerstytetu (!) z wiza
studencka w PRL'owskim paszporcie wyjezdza
na szkolenia doktoranckie do Kanada. Dzisiaj
panikuje pytany o szczegoly swojego wyjazdu.

Ubecka metodyka dyskusji Piotra do wgladu
w archiwach Google'a. Kazdy moze sobie wyrobic
opinie z kim/czym ma do czynienia.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41:34 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundreds of civilians by bombing
the theatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
> >
> > "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> > Edward Zwolan
> >
> > By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
> >
> > ===
> > Piotr Trela
> What does this have to do with the topic discussed in this thread?

it Illustrates the ethics and intellectual qualities of Edward Zwolan, and thus demonstrates how much worth are his
insinuations about others, based NOT on facts (like quotes from his opponents), but on the delusions of Edward Zwolan
about others. In other words, all "points" by Edward Zwolan about me are AS TRUSTWORTHY AS:

- Edward Zwolan claiming that the 1,200 women, who reported sexual assaults in Germany on the 2016 New Year's
celebration, were ... "depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises",
while the men accused of their molestation were ... "victims of the German whores", who by virtue of being
"young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises]" were according to Edward Zwolan: " objectively in the right",

- Edward Zwolan claiming that:
"Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
Edward Zwolan, knowing already about the Russians dropping a massive
bomb on the theatre in Mariupol, next to a sign "Children" larger enough to be visible from space, killing several 100s of civilians seeking shelter there.
- Edward Zwolan trying to discredit an opponent by appealing to (and therefore legitimizing) homophobia - here he
tried to discredit me by linking me to a site of .... supposed location of "homosexual prostitution" [sic!] - and he
"proved" it to be such a site by digging out a Google Maps Streetview image
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,15y,275.05h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
that showed some 25 year AFTER my presentation of slides in one the buildings behind ... some random guy, waiting at a
streetcar stop, was .... oh the sign of HOMOSEXUAL PROSTITUTION .... smoking a cigarette!

This appeal to homophobia is even more perverse given that in other discussions Mr. Zwolan creates an impression
that he is a member of the LGBT community. This glaring contradiction suggests that Mr. Zwolan's Internet
persona "Basia" - may be a false-flag operation - in reality a homophobe who dresses up as gay to discredit
with his hateful posts the real LGBT people. But occasionally, when called out, his mask slips, and he resorts
to homophobia directly - like here, where he thinks he will discredit me by linking me with a location of supposed
"homosexual prostitution".

By the credibility of their accusations toward others - you shall know them: Mr. Edward "Basia" Zwolan

==
Piotr

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:27:23 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41:34 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundreds of civilians by bombing
> the theatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
> > >
> > > "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > >
> > > By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Piotr Trela
>
> > What does this have to do with the topic discussed in this thread?
>
> it Illustrates the ethics and intellectual qualities of Edward Zwolan, and thus demonstrates how much worth are his
> insinuations about others, based NOT on facts (like quotes from his opponents), but on the delusions of Edward Zwolan
> about others.

Piotr Trela is a product of communist upbringing
and has a distinctly totalitarian mentality. Whomever
dares not to repeat word-for-word state propaganda
is anathema to Trela.

Russia in fact tried to minimize civilian losses
in Ukraine, at least in the beginning of its campaign.
Even today official numbers of civilian deaths show
civilian casualties nearly twice as low in Ukraine
than in Iraq 2003 (comparing a similar time interval-
see previous text for data links).

These fact mean nothing to a totalitarian mind
like Piotr Trela's.

> In other words, all "points" by Edward Zwolan about me are AS TRUSTWORTHY AS:
>
> - Edward Zwolan claiming that the 1,200 women, who reported sexual assaults in Germany on the 2016 New Year's
> celebration, were ... "depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises",
> while the men accused of their molestation were ... "victims of the German whores", who by virtue of being
> "young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises]" were according to Edward Zwolan: " objectively in the right",

Piotr displays his willingness to lie- a trait tolerated
and cultivated by communist ideologues and totalitarians.

No one claimed that ALL women where prostitutes.
Contributory factors existed and many probably were,
German authorities did not convict anyone, ...the whole
incident having likely been a provocation by German
Far Right.

Once again, for a totalitarian mind like Trela's
this means nothing. Who does not repeat
word-for-word State propaganda is worthy
of condemnation.

> - Edward Zwolan claiming that:
> "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> Edward Zwolan, knowing already about the Russians dropping a massive
> bomb on the theatre in Mariupol, next to a sign "Children" larger enough to be visible from space, killing several 100s of civilians seeking shelter there.
>
> - Edward Zwolan trying to discredit an opponent by appealing to (and therefore legitimizing) homophobia - here he
> tried to discredit me by linking me to a site of .... supposed location of "homosexual prostitution" [sic!] - and he
> "proved" it to be such a site by digging out a Google Maps Streetview image
> https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,15y,275.05h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
> that showed some 25 year AFTER my presentation of slides in one the buildings behind ... some random guy, waiting at a
> streetcar stop, was .... oh the sign of HOMOSEXUAL PROSTITUTION .... smoking a cigarette!
>
> This appeal to homophobia is even more perverse given that in other discussions Mr. Zwolan creates an impression
> that he is a member of the LGBT community. This glaring contradiction suggests that Mr. Zwolan's Internet
> persona "Basia" - may be a false-flag operation - in reality a homophobe who dresses up as gay to discredit
> with his hateful posts the real LGBT people.

Asking Piotr Trela about a particular location
and its likely homosexual history means appeal
to homophobia, ...while being a member of the
LGBT community means to Trela approval of
homosexual prostitution. This is just absurd.

> But occasionally, when called out, his mask slips, and he resorts
> to homophobia directly - like here, where he thinks he will discredit me by linking me with a location of supposed
> "homosexual prostitution".
>
> By the credibility of their accusations toward others - you shall know them: Mr. Edward "Basia" Zwolan
>
> ==
> Piotr

Polish authorities suggest the existence
of several thousand former SB informants
in today’s academic circles in Poland,
where Piotr Trela during the period of
communist Martial Law, or shortly thereafter,
has started his professional career.

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

Science in Poland PAP (auto-generated translation below)
New regulations on lustration at universities. "They may concern even several thousand people"

The new regulations on lustration at universities may be felt by even several thousand people who cooperated with the security services during the Polish People's Republic - Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller said in an interview with PAP. In his opinion, universities need decommunization.

The Law on Higher Education and Science (Constitution for Science, Law 2.0), in force since October 1, 2018, provides for changes to the provisions on vetting at universities. Pursuant to the Act, a person who "did not work from July 22, 1944 to July 31, 1990, may become a member of the university council, a member of the university senate, a member of the Science Evaluation Committee, the Scientific Excellence Council, the Polish Accreditation Committee, or a titular professor" and did not serve in state security agencies (...) and did not cooperate with these authorities ”.

"Decommunization" at universities

Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller in an interview with PAP called these provisions "decommunizing". When asked whether decommunization is still needed at universities, he replied: "Without a doubt." He assessed that the introduction of new regulations "may be a stage of a delayed, but still settlement of, issues related to the functioning of the People's Republic of Poland".

When asked how many people the new regulations will make their academic career difficult, Piotr Müller commented: “We do not have such data, because we do not have a way to collect it. But I think it could even affect several thousand people in the country. " - The latest research by the Institute of National Remembrance shows that the environments at universities were very infiltrated and there were many people there who were secret collaborators - said the deputy minister.

The provisions related to vetting are to prevent the performance of important functions in higher education not only by lustration liars, but in general all persons who collaborated with the SB or were functionaries of these services. Persons applying for the positions listed in the Act will have to submit a lustration declaration. - If someone in such a statement writes that he was a secret SB officer, he will not be able to perform these important functions - said the deputy minister. And he added that if someone makes a false statement, they will be breaking the law.

He recalled that so far only a small group of people who applied for managerial positions were obliged to submit lustration declarations at universities. - There was not even awareness of the content of this lustration declaration - he assessed. According to him, the new regulations will result in the fact that people who cooperated with the SB will not want to perform managerial functions at all.

Not too late?

When asked if it made sense to introduce such legislation only now, he said yes. He calculated: - Suppose that in 1989 someone was 30 years old, had already made a career at the university and was an informer. Today, such a person is 59 years old. He still has many years of work at the university ahead of him. And people of that age often play a significant role in higher education, 'he said.

The deputy minister pointed out that the new lustration provisions did not apply to members of the Polish Academy of Sciences or management positions at the academy, because the Act does not cover the Polish Academy of Sciences. - Here, unfortunately, these new regulations do not apply. I say it with sadness - the interlocutor commented.

The provisions on the vetting of candidates for professors will enter into force on April 30, 2019. And the provisions on the vetting of candidates for managerial positions and newly elected members of university governing bodies have been in force since October this year.

Source: Science in Poland PAP
https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 3:53:04 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:27:23 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41:34 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundreds of civilians by bombing
> > the theatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
> > > >
> > > > "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> > > > Edward Zwolan
> > > >
> > > > By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > > Piotr Trela
> >
> > > What does this have to do with the topic discussed in this thread?
> >
> > it Illustrates the ethics and intellectual qualities of Edward Zwolan, and thus demonstrates how much worth are his
> > insinuations about others, based NOT on facts (like quotes from his opponents), but on the delusions of Edward Zwolan
> > about others. In other words, all "points" by Edward Zwolan about me are AS TRUSTWORTHY AS:

> Piotr Trela is a product of communist upbringing and has a distinctly totalitarian mentality. Whomever dares not to repeat word-for-word state propaganda is anathema to Trela.

Don't flatter yourself Zwolan. Anathema? You are an aging troll, who tries to compensate for his pathetic life by
spitting on others.

We are what WE write, NOT what others would write about us.
That why to discredit you, Mr. Zwolan, all I need is to QUOTE YOUR words.
You, unable to defend them, think you will discredit me NOT by quoting MY words, but by quoting .... YOUR opinions about me. ;-)

By their fruits you shall know them:

* Edward Zwolan about the 1,200 women, who reported sexual assaults in Germany on the 2016 New Year's
celebration:
-"depraved German bitches",
- "whores",
- "German whores in search of colored penises"
Edward Zwolan

while salivating at the thoyght about the penises of the men the women accused of the assaults
- "victims of German whores",
- "young, virile, Semites with long .... [penises] are objectively in the right"
Edward Zwolan

** Edward Zwolan, KNOWING ALREADY about the Russians dropping a massive bomb on the theatre in Mariupol, killing several 100s of civilians seeking shelter there:
- "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
Edward Zwolan

*** Edward Zwolan trying to discredit an opponent by appealing to (and therefore legitimizing) homophobia -
e.g. trying to discredit me by linking me to .... supposed location of "homosexual prostitution" (c) Edward Zwolan
- which he determined as such by ... finding Google Maps Streetview image that showed some random guy, waiting at a streetcar stop .... smoking a cigarette:
https://www.google.nl/maps/@53.4397216,14.5518192,3a,15y,275.05h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIcKBgo4CdIpe7eC4Wt5f6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

By their words you shall know them. Edward "the anathema" Zwolan - everyone ;-).

===
Piotr

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:59:43 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 3:53:04 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:27:23 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41:34 AM UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > That's also the Edward Zwolan, KNOWING that the Russians killed among other, hundreds of civilians by bombing
> > > the theatre in Mariupol, was still claiming:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Russian army is willing to accept large own losses - because they want to reduce the number of killed civilians"
> > > > > Edward Zwolan
> > > > >
> > > > > By their own words, not by the opinions of others about them, you shall know them.
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > > Piotr Trela
> > >
> > > > What does this have to do with the topic discussed in this thread?
> > >
> > > it Illustrates the ethics and intellectual qualities of Edward Zwolan, and thus demonstrates how much worth are his
> > > insinuations about others, based NOT on facts (like quotes from his opponents), but on the delusions of Edward Zwolan
> > > about others. In other words, all "points" by Edward Zwolan about me are AS TRUSTWORTHY AS:
> > Piotr Trela is a product of communist upbringing and has a distinctly totalitarian mentality. Whomever dares not to repeat word-for-word state propaganda is anathema to Trela.
>
> Don't flatter yourself Zwolan. Anathema? You are an aging troll, who tries to compensate for his pathetic life by
> spitting on others.
>
> We are what WE write, NOT what others would write about us.
> That why to discredit you, Mr. Zwolan, all I need is to QUOTE YOUR words.
> You, unable to defend them, think you will discredit me NOT by quoting MY words, but by quoting .... YOUR opinions about me. ;-)

All Piotr Trela has fabricated is a bunch of
stitched together, taken out of context
mis-quotations.

He is happy because producing what could
in his estimation pass as damning evidence
is what he has been trained to do and makes
his totalitarian mind tick. Trela is a product
of his times, see below:

1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem
ideologicznych komunistow Jaskotow.

Piotr Trela:
“Pania Jaskot znalem jako 7-latek”

2. Kazimierz Jaskot, czlonek KC PZPR
byl rektorem Czerwonego Uniwersytetu
kompletnie spenetrowanego przez SB'ecje
gdzie donosicielstwo i szykany oraz
wyrzucanie ze studiow byly codziennoscia.

Koniec Szkoly Serwilizmu str.5
http://ksi.home.pl/archiwaprzelomu/obrazy/AP-24-1-3-1_46.pdf

Czasy Mocno Polityczne
https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ks-28-30.01.2011-2..jpg

3. Piotr byl prosperujacym pracownikiem tego
wlasnie SB'eckiego Uniwersytetu i znajdowal
zatrudnienie w Zakladzie Teledetekcji specjalizujacym
sie w przeroznych formach elektronicznego nasluchu.

Piotr Trela: Szczecin University, Zaklad Teledetekcji
http://www.ices.dk/sites/pub/Publication%20Reports/Marine%20Science%20Symposia/Phase%202/Rapport%20et%20Proces-Verbaux%20des%20Reunions%20-%20Volume%20188%20-%201989%20-%20Partie%2040%20de%2071.pdf

4. Gdy Piotr byl jeszcze studentem w Gdansku
jego wspol-lokatorzy w akademickim pokoju
wpadali w rece SB'ecji, pozniej skazywani byli
na wieloletnie wyroki wiezienia.

Piotr Trela:
“…mojego kolegi z ktorym mieszkalem w jednym pokoju w
akademiku i ktory dostal 3 lata za przewozenie paru ulotek (i odsiedzial z
tego 2 lata).

5. Piotr bral udzial w licznych protestach
i zadymach przeciwko komunie, min. w Gdansku,
ale w obliczu milicyjnych lapanek nie uciekal.
Gdzie inni ryzykowali zdrowiem a nawet zyciem
by nie zostac pojmanym przez ZOMO, Piotr
pozostawal w miejscu.

Piotr Trela:
“…mielismy nadzieje, ze ZOMO nie zatrzyma
pociagu by nas wygarnac...pociag zatrzymal sie po ujechaniu
50 metrow. ZOMO wbieglo na peron i czekalo. Zrobilo sie nieprzyjemnie.
Niektorzy z nas zawierzyli swoim nogom - otwierali awaryjne drzwi z
drugiej strony i pryskali na tory …postanowilem zostac w pociagu,”

6. Piotr klamie twierdzac ze nie widzial na
oczy Jaskota, Rektora uniwersytetu na ktorym
byl pracownikiem naukowym (Uniwersytet Szczecinski
liczyl wtedy niewiele ponad 50 osob lokalnego grona
pedagogicznego, wiekszosc wykladowcow byla
wowczas wizytujaca).

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PTDC0003.jpg

7. Piotr Trela nawet dzisiaj grozi swoim oponentom
donosicielstwem (patrz cytat grozba donosu
oraz pobicia, "skucia mordy," w wypadku powrotu
do Polski!)

Piotr Trela:
“I jesli...przyjada kiedys do Polski to niech uwazaja - …ten ze zdjecia…dowie sie co o nim wypisujecie, to wam morde skuje.”

8. Piotr nie chce udzielic odpowiedzi na proste
pytania z ktorymi nikt na emigranckiej grupie
spolecznosciowej nie ma najmniejszego problemu,
np. kto w PRL rekomendowal na zagraniczne
studia doktoranckie do Kanady –Piotr przywoluje
prawo przestepcow do nie-samo-inkryminacji.

9. Piotr w pierwszym swoim tekscie opublikowanym
na Zachodzie zawarl donos. Poinformowal kanadyjska
publike ze Komunisci w Polsce nie sa prawdziwymi
Marksistami-Leninistami.

Piotr Trela:
"I wanted to see a believing Marxist-Lenninist with
my own eyes. Spending 29 years in a Marxist Lenninist
country I hadn't met any... . I was anxious to see my
first live Marxist-Leninist.

Strona nr. 7
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10222/52077/dalhousiegazette_volume122_issue4_september_28_1989.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

10. Piotr w przeciagu 27 lat dzialalnosci na grupie
dyskusyjnej soc.culture.polish napisal tysiace
reply'ow ale samemu nie otworzyl wiecej nizeli
kilkudziesieciu wlasnych watkow. Wiekszosc
dopiero wtedy gdy zostalo to zauwazone w
2016 roku, i zostala mu zwrocona uwaga.
Donosiciel, jego przelozeni, nie sa zainteresowani
przekazywaniem wlasnych opinii a gromadzeniem
cudzych.

11. Piotr od lat ulatwia prace donosicielom
ograniczajac swobode wypowiedzi w internecie;
pietnujac anonimowosc oraz domagajac sie by
wszyscy Internauci podpisywali sie swoimi
prawdziwymi imionami i nazwiskami.

12. Gdy Trybunał Praw Człowieka w Strasburgu
orzekł że Grzegorz Braun mial prawo nazwac
profesora Miodka SB'ekiem, Piotr Trela usilowal
ograniczyc swobode wypowiedzi Brauna
Argumentujac ze uczciwy system to taki w
ktorym "lepiej by winny uszedl karze niz zeby
niewinnego skrzywdzic."

Piotr zaczal bronic systemu prawnego
ktory nie wymierzyl sprawiedliwosci ani
jednemu z SB’eckich oprawcow zapominajac
ze Braun nie domagal sie kary dla SB'eka
tylko swobody wypowiedzi dla siebie.

13. Piotr w swoim nowym miejscu
zamieszkania szybko dal sie poznac
jako proponent internetowej cenzury,
nazywajac idiotami Nowofundlandczykow
uskarzajacych sie na cenzure w netcie.

14. Piotr zapytany na soc.culture.polish o
dokladna date swojego wyjazdu z PRL’u do
Kanada- w okresie rzadow Rakowieckiego
i Kiszczaka czy tez pozniej, gdy uzyskanie
paszportu nie bylo powiazane z probami
werbunku do wspolpracy ze Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa,
odpowiada milczeniem oraz natychmiastowym
i bezpowrotnym zerwaniem wieloletniego
kolezenstwa z pytajacym go p. Andrzejem Strakiem.

Czy Piotr byl SB'eckim donosicielem tego
niewiem, wiem tylko ze na Jaskotowym Uniwersytecie,
i nie tylko, byli tacy! Gdy zas komuna padala
w 1989r istniala czy tez mogla byc postrzegana
grozba ze donosiciele moga zostac zdemaskowani
i ukarani.

Z pewnoscia wladze Uniwerystetu Szczecinskiego
(SB'ecja, kapitan Cholewa, pro-rektor Homa,
Rektor Jaskot) czynili kroki by zapewnic
donosicielom nalezyte bezpieczenstwo, odwrot,
alibi, czy ewakuacje. Piotr wlasnie w tym okresie
czasu i jako pracownik uniwerstytetu (!) z wiza
studencka w PRL'owskim paszporcie wyjezdza
na szkolenia doktoranckie do Kanada. Dzisiaj
panikuje pytany o szczegoly swojego wyjazdu.

Ubecka metodyka dyskusji Piotra do wgladu
w archiwach Google'a. Kazdy moze sobie wyrobic
opinie z kim/czym ma do czynienia.