Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?

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On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>

I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.

I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>
>
>
>I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>
>I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.

I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.

On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>
>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>
> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>

I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
price . :~)

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:36:19 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>
>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>
>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>
>
>
>I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>price . :~)

Yeah, they want $40 for 24x30.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:01:12 +0000, DeGaDesigns
<490cab8f0ac1078adba3a0c6f751a889@example.com> wrote:

>Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?

I just called Webb Concrete and Building Supply and they dont.

On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>
>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX.  It is not uncommon.
>>
>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>> expensive stuff).  All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers.  They're only
>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>
>
>
> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2"  And that is the high
> price .  :~)

OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>
>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX.  It is not uncommon.
>>>
>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>> expensive stuff).  All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers.  They're only
>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2"  And that is the high
>> price .  :~)
>
>
>OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.

But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
> >On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
> >> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
> >>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
> >>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
> >>>>
> >>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
> >>>
> >>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
> >>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
> >>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
> >>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
> >> price . :~)
> >
> >
> >OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.

The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.

However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
home. ;-)

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011

(I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)

On 9/14/2021 5:52 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX.  It is not uncommon.
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>> expensive stuff).  All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers.  They're only
>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2"  And that is the high
>>> price .  :~)
>>
>>
>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>
> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>

Yes construction lumber is returning to normal..

On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>> price . :~)
>>>
>>>
>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>
> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>
> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
> home. ;-)
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>
> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>

Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
know diddly about lumber sizing.

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 3:11:48 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
> >>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
> >>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
> >>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
> >>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
> >>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
> >>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
> >>>> price . :~)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
> >> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
> >> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
> >> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
> >
> > The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
> > dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
> > to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
> >
> > However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
> > 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
> > home. ;-)
> >
> > https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
> >
> > (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
> >
> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
> know diddly about lumber sizing.

Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.

When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
back was "What is your zip code?"

I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"

The next response: He sent me back the link that I sent him! No words,
just the link.

Geeeez, why does this have to be so hard!

So I asked him "Why are you sending me the link that I just sent to
you? What do you expect me to do with it?"

Next response: "Please give a minute."

Next response: "Thank you for your feedback."

Chat session ends.

It was such a satisfying experience. ;-)

On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:11:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>>> price . :~)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>>
>> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
>> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
>> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>>
>> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
>> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
>> home. ;-)
>>
>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>>
>> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>>
>
>Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>know diddly about lumber sizing.

Or make "minimum wage" and aren't too interested in doing anything
right.

On 9/15/2021 7:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 3:11:48 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>>>> price . :~)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>>>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>>>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>>>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>>>
>>> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
>>> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
>>> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>>>
>>> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
>>> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
>>> home. ;-)
>>>
>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>>>
>>> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>>>
>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>
> Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.
>
> When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
> back was "What is your zip code?"
>
> I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
> information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"
>
> The next response: He sent me back the link that I sent him! No words,
> just the link.
>
> Geeeez, why does this have to be so hard!
>
> So I asked him "Why are you sending me the link that I just sent to
> you? What do you expect me to do with it?"
>
> Next response: "Please give a minute."
>
> Next response: "Thank you for your feedback."
>
> Chat session ends.
>
> It was such a satisfying experience. ;-)
>

I run in to this all the time. This is what the world is turning in to
as those that know a thing or two die of or retire.

On 9/15/2021 7:48 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:11:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>>>> price . :~)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>>>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>>>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>>>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>>>
>>> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
>>> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
>>> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>>>
>>> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
>>> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
>>> home. ;-)
>>>
>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>>>
>>> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>>>
>>
>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>
> Or make "minimum wage" and aren't too interested in doing anything
> right.
>

I don't think pay has anything to do with it. An idiot gets paid too
much regardless of how much he is making.

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 9/15/2021 7:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

>>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>>
>> Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.
>>
>> When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
>> back was "What is your zip code?"
>>
>> I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
>> information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"

Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).

Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
will availability of the item.

In rec.woodworking, Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).
>
> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
> will availability of the item.

I've notived Home Depot doing that. They typically think I want to got
to the store that's about 4th furthest away from me, instead of one of
the two local ones. I use the Lowes website less (because the local
store is closer than any Home Depot, so I'm more likely to just drive
there and look).

It also would not surprise me if certain items are not available at all
in certain areas. For me, California regulations may make them want to
hide items they can't or won't want to sell in this state. I know there
are a lot of portable generators which other websites will have notes
declaring "Not for sale in California."

For lumber I can imagine distribution is regional and the selection
and prices may vary a lot between Alabama and where ever the call
center is located.

Elijah
------
but usually goes to Discount Builder's Supply (a local place) first

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
> >On 9/15/2021 7:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> >>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
> >>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
> >>
> >> Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.
> >>
> >> When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
> >> back was "What is your zip code?"
> >>
> >> I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
> >> information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"
> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both

He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
*image* that is incorrect.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011

> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).
>
> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
> will availability of the item.

Yes, the pricing will differ. The availability will differ. The image will not.
Try the link.

(As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)

In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
> He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
> *image* that is incorrect.

Ah. I missed that part. I expect no one at Lowes really cares if all of
the images are right. That's a hard task when there are so many images
to manage. Face it, web sites really suck for some sorts of purchases.

> (As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)

I don't know what it should look like. I see a picture of a piece of
plywood. That's about what I'd expect for a listing for a piece of
plywood, even it it is a special type.

Elijah
------
ask me about software with code to supply generic default images

On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:51:44 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
<*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

>In rec.woodworking, Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
>> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
>> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).

VPNs work.

>> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
>> will availability of the item.
>
>I've notived Home Depot doing that. They typically think I want to got
>to the store that's about 4th furthest away from me, instead of one of
>the two local ones. I use the Lowes website less (because the local
>store is closer than any Home Depot, so I'm more likely to just drive
>there and look).

I just tell them the zip code for the store I want to shop in. If
it's not in stock there, they'll tell me where it is, anyway.
>
>It also would not surprise me if certain items are not available at all
>in certain areas. For me, California regulations may make them want to
>hide items they can't or won't want to sell in this state. I know there
>are a lot of portable generators which other websites will have notes
>declaring "Not for sale in California."
>
>For lumber I can imagine distribution is regional and the selection
>and prices may vary a lot between Alabama and where ever the call
>center is located.

HD's call center is in AL? That would be weird. I'd think it would
be in GA (Atlanta corporate headquarters), IN(dia), or PA(kistan).

On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 12:22:42 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/15/2021 7:48 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:11:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>>>>> price . :~)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>>>>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>>>>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>>>>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>>>>
>>>> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
>>>> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
>>>> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>>>>
>>>> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
>>>> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
>>>> home. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>>>>
>>>> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>>
>> Or make "minimum wage" and aren't too interested in doing anything
>> right.
>>
>
>
>I don't think pay has anything to do with it. An idiot gets paid too
>much regardless of how much he is making.

You get what you pay for (in theory, anyway).

There are signs in almost every store, restaurant, and littering the
highway around here. I tell my wife that they just aren't paying
enough or are shit employers. The restaurant we go for Sunday brunch
hires all the time (mostly kids for bussing or as runners) but never
has a problem with having enough wait staff on the floor. He treats
his people right. The place is full => tips are good => service is
good => place is full. The owner doesn't screw with success.

In rec.woodworking, <krw@notreal.com> wrote:
> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
>> and prices may vary a lot between Alabama and where ever the call
>> center is located.
> HD's call center is in AL? That would be weird.

Place from subject, just for contrasting locations.

Elijah
------
hasn't been to Alabama since the 1980s

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 4:50:43 PM UTC-4, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
> > He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
> > *image* that is incorrect.
> Ah. I missed that part. I expect no one at Lowes really cares if all of
> the images are right. That's a hard task when there are so many images
> to manage. Face it, web sites really suck for some sorts of purchases.
> > (As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)
> I don't know what it should look like. I see a picture of a piece of
> plywood. That's about what I'd expect for a listing for a piece of
> plywood, even it it is a special type.
>

I'm assuming you are seeing a piece of plywood with some text
superimposed on it. It's the text that is the issue.

Read the superimposed dimensions carefully, compare them
to the dimensions shown under the price and I'm sure you'll
be able to figure out what it should look like.

You'll also understand why I said "Just not sure how I'm going
to get it home." ;-)

(As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)

On 9/16/2021 3:50 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
>> He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
>> *image* that is incorrect.
>
> Ah. I missed that part. I expect no one at Lowes really cares if all of
> the images are right. That's a hard task when there are so many images
> to manage. Face it, web sites really suck for some sorts of purchases.
>
>> (As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)
>
> I don't know what it should look like. I see a picture of a piece of
> plywood. That's about what I'd expect for a listing for a piece of
> plywood, even it it is a special type.
>
> Elijah
> ------
> ask me about software with code to supply generic default images
>

In this example IIRC the named 1/2x 4x8 sheet is described with near
square dimensions.

Imagine trying to haul an 8'x8' sheet of plywood! LOL

5'x5' Baltic birch is at the extreme of my limits for handling.

On 9/16/2021 7:41 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 12:22:42 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2021 7:48 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:11:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/15/2021 11:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>>>>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>>>>>>>> expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>>>>>>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
>>>>>>>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
>>>>>>>> price . :~)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.
>>>>>> But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
>>>>>> at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
>>>>>> Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
>>>>> dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
>>>>> to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
>>>>> 7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
>>>>> home. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011
>>>>>
>>>>> (I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>>>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>>>
>>> Or make "minimum wage" and aren't too interested in doing anything
>>> right.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think pay has anything to do with it. An idiot gets paid too
>> much regardless of how much he is making.
>
> You get what you pay for (in theory, anyway).
>
> There are signs in almost every store, restaurant, and littering the
> highway around here. I tell my wife that they just aren't paying
> enough or are shit employers. The restaurant we go for Sunday brunch
> hires all the time (mostly kids for bussing or as runners) but never
> has a problem with having enough wait staff on the floor. He treats
> his people right. The place is full => tips are good => service is
> good => place is full. The owner doesn't screw with success.
>

You may be in a unique location. In Texas, restaurants are offering
"signing" bonuses to get staff to come back to work. So I doubt the pay
is an issue, at least here.
My nephew, 7 years my junior, is one of those free loaders. He took out
a government loan to restart a landscape business early last year and he
bought a trailer. That trailer is at his parents house and has not been
used for earning money. His parents house is in another state.

Until the stimulus checks and unemployment checks stop going out people
are not eager to go back to work.