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 by: fl - Sun, 4 Dec 2022 03:31 UTC

Hello,
In our native language, we have an idiom to describe someone who is really not a capable business person, but convince many people with a series very beautiful PowerPoint slides. That is, this kind of person can cheat many investors or managements or so. In recent years, we often call their behaviors as "PPT Electric Vehicle Manufactures", "a PPT project" etc.
Can you tell me an English words to describe these kinds of persons?

Thanks for your reading.

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 by: Anton Shepelev - Wed, 7 Dec 2022 15:00 UTC

fl:

> In our native language, we have an idiom to describe
> someone who is really not a capable business person, but
> convince many people with a series very beautiful
> PowerPoint slides. That is, this kind of person can cheat
> many investors or managements or so.

Investors are meant to be cheated as part of the market
competition, but their own management should, as Big Mama
Thornton sang, "see through that."

> In recent years, we often call their behaviors as "PPT
> Electric Vehicle Manufactures", "a PPT project" etc.

This good comparison reminds me of:

The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint, by Edward Tufte:
www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/pi/2016_2017/phil/tufte-powerpoint.pdf

> Can you tell me an English words to describe these kinds
> of persons?

I can't. In Russian there is the cultural reference to
Potemkin vallages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village

What could it be in English? Fine facade on a rotten
building? Mockup junkie?

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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 7:31:53 PM UTC-8, fl wrote:
> Hello,
> In our native language, we have an idiom to describe someone who is really not a capable business person, but convince many people with a series very beautiful PowerPoint slides. That is, this kind of person can cheat many investors or managements or so. In recent years, we often call their behaviors as "PPT Electric Vehicle Manufactures", "a PPT project" etc.
> Can you tell me an English words to describe these kinds of persons?
>
> Thanks for your reading.

what's your idiom ?

.......... Bait-and-Switch, looks good on paper, ......... (window - dressing)

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 by: henh...@gmail.com - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 07:48 UTC

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-8, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 7:31:53 PM UTC-8, fl wrote:
> > Hello,
> > In our native language, we have an idiom to describe someone who is really not a capable business person, but convince many people with a series very beautiful PowerPoint slides. That is, this kind of person can cheat many investors or managements or so. In recent years, we often call their behaviors as "PPT Electric Vehicle Manufactures", "a PPT project" etc.
> > Can you tell me an English words to describe these kinds of persons?
> >
> > Thanks for your reading.

what's your idiom ? (and what language?)
>
> ......... Bait-and-Switch, looks good on paper, ......... (window - dressing)

How to describe someone brags to others? --------- such a person is a Bragger, Braggart, or a Self-promoter , ...

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 by: Anton Shepelev - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 08:10 UTC

Han Hanna:

> what's your idiom ?

fl metioned "PPT project", which perpahs may be amended to
"PPT projector".

> (and what language?)

I pretty sure fl is a Chineese, although I forget the
antecedent of my conclusion.

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 by: henh...@gmail.com - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 18:00 UTC

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 12:10:14 AM UTC-8, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Han Hanna:
> > what's your idiom ?
> fl metioned "PPT project", which perpahs may be amended to
> "PPT projector".
>
> > (and what language?)
>
> I pretty sure fl is a Chineese, although I forget the
> antecedent of my conclusion.

thanks.... in Chinese, they seem to make LOTS of trendy new expressions (like Jp, but unlike Engilsh)

e.g.

_________________________

[Chinese] 婚托 (hūn tuō) - A professional romance scammer employed by a dating agency to encourage clients to continue using their services

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[Chinese] 归海 (guī hǎi) - To move overseas after spending some time in China after already spending some time overseas, while originally being from China

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[Chinese] 下头 xià tóu ------------------- To quickly lose interest in a crush
72 points 18 comments submitted 11 months ago by Curious_Cilantro to r/DoesNotTranslate
Example: "I saw my crush being rude to a waitress, and I immediately lost interest in him (我瞬间对他下头了)"

Can also be used to describe suddenly losing passion for a commodity, a hobby etc. -------------- or (after) buying a guitar (or getting Piano (foreign lang.) lessons)

上头 is the opposite, means gaining a sudden passion for someone or something.

_________________________

"Wu Xin Gong Zuo(乌心工作)" - so concerned with the situation in Ukraine
that you cannot work

the original phrase is 无心工作 ( pronounced the same )

乌心工作 is a play on that

---- 乌 is the first character in the Chinese name for Ukraine.

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