леле, кога успяха руснаците да купят и the economist?! за авторът няма и да
питам -- ясно е, че е руска подлога.

John Mearsheimer on why the West is principally responsible for the
Ukrainian crisis

The political scientist believes the reckless expansion of NATO provoked
Russia

The trouble over Ukraine actually started at NATO’s Bucharest summit in
April 2008, when George W. Bush’s administration pushed the alliance to
announce that Ukraine and Georgia “will become members”. Russian leaders
responded immediately with outrage, characterising this decision as an
existential threat to Russia and vowing to thwart it. According to a
respected Russian journalist, Mr Putin “flew into a rage” and warned that
“if Ukraine joins NATO, it will do so without Crimea and the eastern
regions. It will simply fall apart.” _America ignored Moscow’s red line,
however, and pushed forward to make Ukraine a Western bulwark on Russia’s
border. That strategy included two other elements: bringing Ukraine closer
to the eu and making it a pro-American democracy_.
…

The next major confrontation came in December 2021 and led directly to the
current war. The main cause was that Ukraine was becoming a de facto
member of NATO. The process started in December 2017, when the Trump
administration decided to sell Kyiv “defensive weapons”. What counts as
“defensive” is hardly clear-cut, however, and these weapons certainly
looked offensive to Moscow and its allies in the Donbas region. Other NATO
countries got in on the act, shipping weapons to Ukraine, training its
armed forces and allowing it to participate in joint air and naval
exercises. In July 2021, Ukraine and America co-hosted a major naval
exercise in the Black Sea region involving navies from 32 countries.
Operation Sea Breeze almost provoked Russia to fire at a British naval
destroyer that deliberately entered what Russia considers its territorial
waters.
…

https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2022/03/11/john-mearsheimer-on-why-the-west-is-principally-responsible-for-the-ukrainian-crisis

останалото може да прочетете сами, тези които се интересуват.

онзи най-вероятно ще го пропусне като руска пропаганда 8-).

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On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> леле, кога успяха руснаците да купят и the economist?! за авторът няма и да
> питам -- ясно е, че е руска подлога.
>
> John Mearsheimer on why the West is principally responsible for the
> Ukrainian crisis
>
> The political scientist believes the reckless expansion of NATO provoked
> Russia
>
> The trouble over Ukraine actually started at NATO’s Bucharest summit in
> April 2008, when George W. Bush’s administration pushed the alliance to
> announce that Ukraine and Georgia “will become members”. Russian leaders
> responded immediately with outrage, characterising this decision as an
> existential threat to Russia and vowing to thwart it. According to a
> respected Russian journalist, Mr Putin “flew into a rage” and warned that
> “if Ukraine joins NATO, it will do so without Crimea and the eastern
> regions. It will simply fall apart.” _America ignored Moscow’s red line,
> however, and pushed forward to make Ukraine a Western bulwark on Russia’s
> border. That strategy included two other elements: bringing Ukraine closer
> to the eu and making it a pro-American democracy_.
> …
>
> The next major confrontation came in December 2021 and led directly to the
> current war. The main cause was that Ukraine was becoming a de facto
> member of NATO. The process started in December 2017, when the Trump
> administration decided to sell Kyiv “defensive weapons”. What counts as
> “defensive” is hardly clear-cut, however, and these weapons certainly
> looked offensive to Moscow and its allies in the Donbas region. Other NATO
> countries got in on the act, shipping weapons to Ukraine, training its
> armed forces and allowing it to participate in joint air and naval
> exercises. In July 2021, Ukraine and America co-hosted a major naval
> exercise in the Black Sea region involving navies from 32 countries.
> Operation Sea Breeze almost provoked Russia to fire at a British naval
> destroyer that deliberately entered what Russia considers its territorial
> waters.
> …
>
> https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2022/03/11/john-mearsheimer-on-why-the-west-is-principally-responsible-for-the-ukrainian-crisis
>
> останалото може да прочетете сами, тези които се интересуват.
>
> онзи най-вероятно ще го пропусне като руска пропаганда 8-).
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> «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»
В САЩ (в случая Великобритания) всеки може да изрази лично мнение без да
бъде убит, а ако не говори за "черни" и "джендъри" дори няма да си загуби
работата. Публикации, като "Тhe Еconomist", винаги търсят разнообразни мнения.
Аз цитирах какво той казва във видеото пуснато от Чорби и следователно колко
струва мнението му по върпоса - т.е. по-малко от пукната пара.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:56:20 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

>> леле, кога успяха руснаците да купят и the economist?! за авторът няма
>> и да питам -- ясно е, че е руска подлога.

>> John Mearsheimer on why the West is principally responsible for the
>> Ukrainian crisis

>> The political scientist believes the reckless expansion of NATO
>> provoked Russia

>> The trouble over Ukraine actually started at NATO’s Bucharest summit in
>> April 2008, when George W. Bush’s administration pushed the alliance to
>> announce that Ukraine and Georgia “will become members”. Russian
>> leaders responded immediately with outrage, characterising this
>> decision as an existential threat to Russia and vowing to thwart it.
>> According to a respected Russian journalist, Mr Putin “flew into a
>> rage” and warned that “if Ukraine joins NATO, it will do so without
>> Crimea and the eastern regions. It will simply fall apart.” _America
>> ignored Moscow’s red line,
>> however, and pushed forward to make Ukraine a Western bulwark on
>> Russia’s border. That strategy included two other elements: bringing
>> Ukraine closer to the eu and making it a pro-American democracy_.
>> …

>> The next major confrontation came in December 2021 and led directly to
>> the current war. The main cause was that Ukraine was becoming a de
>> facto member of NATO. The process started in December 2017, when the
>> Trump administration decided to sell Kyiv “defensive weapons”. What
>> counts as “defensive” is hardly clear-cut, however, and these weapons
>> certainly looked offensive to Moscow and its allies in the Donbas
>> region. Other NATO countries got in on the act, shipping weapons to
>> Ukraine, training its armed forces and allowing it to participate in
>> joint air and naval exercises. In July 2021, Ukraine and America
>> co-hosted a major naval exercise in the Black Sea region involving
>> navies from 32 countries.
>> Operation Sea Breeze almost provoked Russia to fire at a British naval
>> destroyer that deliberately entered what Russia considers its
>> territorial waters.

>> …

>> https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2022/03/11/john-mearsheimer-on-
why-the-west-is-principally-responsible-for-the-ukrainian-crisis

>> останалото може да прочетете сами, тези които се интересуват.

>> онзи най-вероятно ще го пропусне като руска пропаганда 8-).

> В САЩ (в случая Великобритания) всеки може да изрази лично мнение без да
> бъде убит, а ако не говори за "черни" и "джендъри" дори няма да си
> загуби работата. Публикации, като "Тhe Еconomist", винаги търсят
> разнообразни мнения.

> Аз цитирах какво той казва във видеото пуснато от Чорби и следователно
> колко струва мнението му по върпоса - т.е. по-малко от пукната пара.

аха, аха. така ще да е. ама странно защо не виждам в тази нишка такъв
цитат?

какво ще правиш с цитатите на американци, и то видни американци, които
казват неща, обратни на това, което твърдиш?

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