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From: hayes...@telkomsa.net (Steve Hayes)
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Subject: Re: Now for something completely different...
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 07:09:40 -0000 (UTC)
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by: Steve Hayes - Mon, 9 Jan 2023 07:09 UTC

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 18:52:25 -0800, Snidely wrote:

>>>> Back and fill
>>
>> To zigzag or to vacillate or change course. A maneuver in sailing when
>> the sails are trimmed so the wind fills and spills.
>
> That one I didn't get, either, but I'm not sure I've heard it in use
> except in sailing (where back means holding the sail in the "wrong"
> position to in order to slow or stop forward motion and to help pull the
> bow around; the filling is when you retrim the sails for the new
> course).

Ah, a nautical metaphor, like "give me some leeway", meaning "allow me to
be blown off course a bit more".

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Steve Hayes http://khanya.wordpress.com

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From: nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
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by: J. J. Lodder - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 14:49 UTC

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 18:52:25 -0800, Snidely wrote:
>
> >>>> Back and fill
> >>
> >> To zigzag or to vacillate or change course. A maneuver in sailing when
> >> the sails are trimmed so the wind fills and spills.
> >
> > That one I didn't get, either, but I'm not sure I've heard it in use
> > except in sailing (where back means holding the sail in the "wrong"
> > position to in order to slow or stop forward motion and to help pull the
> > bow around; the filling is when you retrim the sails for the new
> > course).
>
> Ah, a nautical metaphor, like "give me some leeway", meaning "allow me to
> be blown off course a bit more".

Or more positively, allow me some room for maneuvering,

Jan

Subject	Author
Re: Now for something completely different...	Steve Hayes
Re: Now for something completely different...	J. J. Lodder