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* Destination -- another word in danger of being skunked?Steve Hayes
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 by: Steve Hayes - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 05:06 UTC

I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
way", which struck me as pretty weird.

You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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 by: Anton Shepelev - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:02 UTC

Steve Hayes:

> I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations
> along the way", which struck me as pretty weird.

The comma is weird indeed.

> You can pass though places on your way to a desination,
> but you cannot pass through desinations on your way to a
> place. The desination is where you end up, at the end of
> jour journey.

This usage can be defended, if half-heartedly, by observing
that one may choose to visit certain places and make certain
entertaining detours, on an otherwise joyless trip, each
detour ending in a destination -- the ruins of a church[1],
a small-town museum, &c.
____________________
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 by: Mark Brader - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:20 UTC

Steve Hayes:
> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

No, you are confusing "destination" with "final destination".
--
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Toronto | most of my life waiting for a chance to
msb@vex.net | say that.) --Michael Wares

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 by: Mark Brader - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:21 UTC

Steve Hayes:
> > I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations
> > along the way", which struck me as pretty weird.
Anton Shepelev:
> The comma is weird indeed.

No, that's the easy part: it clarifies the intended grouping.
--
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msb@vex.net | not a *terrific* one!" --Maxwell Smart (Agent 86)

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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 by: Bertel Lund Hansen - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:30 UTC

Den 18.03.2023 kl. 06.06 skrev Steve Hayes:

> I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
> way", which struck me as pretty weird.
>
> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

"Destination" is correct in the first sentence, but spellt "desination"
three times in the next section. Did you copy-paste?

--
Bertel, Denmark

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 by: TonyCooper - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:38 UTC

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:20:28 +0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Steve Hayes:
>> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
>> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
>> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.
>
>No, you are confusing "destination" with "final destination".

Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
location, each location is a destination. I guess returning home is
the final destination.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:12 UTC

On 18-Mar-23 19:38, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 19:20:28 +0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>
>> Steve Hayes:
>>> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
>>> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
>>> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.
>>
>> No, you are confusing "destination" with "final destination".
>
> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
> location, each location is a destination. I guess returning home is
> the final destination.

Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Bertel Lund Hansen - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 22:10 UTC

Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:

>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
>> location, each location is a destination.  I guess returning home is
>> the final destination.
>
> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.

Some people would say that there are two quite different Final Destinations.

--
Bertel, Denmark

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 01:21 UTC

On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>
>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
>>> location, each location is a destination.  I guess returning home is
>>> the final destination.
>>
>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>
> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
> Destinations.

Could one Limbo under the Gate? To get to a preferred destination?

Sitting around on clouds... It doesn't sound like much fun to me.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: lar3ryca - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 04:13 UTC

On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>>
>>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
>>>> location, each location is a destination.  I guess returning home is
>>>> the final destination.
>>>
>>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>>
>> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
>> Destinations.
>
> Could one Limbo under the Gate?  To get to a preferred destination?
>
> Sitting around on clouds...  It doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
- Mark Twain

--
Greek cows say "μ"

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 by: Peter Moylan - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 04:30 UTC

On 19/03/23 15:13, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>>>
>>>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at
>>>>> each location, each location is a destination. I guess
>>>>> returning home is the final destination.
>>>>
>>>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>>>
>>> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
>>> Destinations.
>>
>> Could one Limbo under the Gate? To get to a preferred
>> destination?
>>
>> Sitting around on clouds... It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
>
> Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company. - Mark Twain

Yes, but in Hell you don't get free harp lessons.

In Heinlein's book /Job/, the hero chooses to be thrown from Heaven down
to Hell so that he can search for his girlfriend. He is caught in a net
before he hits the flames, and then he discovers that Hell is quite a
pleasant place

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Bertel Lund Hansen - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 08:35 UTC

Den 19.03.2023 kl. 02.21 skrev Sam Plusnet:

>>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>>
>> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
>> Destinations.
>
> Could one Limbo under the Gate?  To get to a preferred destination?
>
> Sitting around on clouds...  It doesn't sound like much fun to me.

No, and to think of all the out-of-tune plunking going on ...

--
Bertel, Denmark

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 by: Janet - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 11:07 UTC

In article <5hha1ili6la2ikf79vhdfr5h74n6f9hima@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>
> I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
> way", which struck me as pretty weird.
>
> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

Someone turned off at a tangent ?

Janet

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 11:35 UTC

Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

> In article <5hha1ili6la2ikf79vhdfr5h74n6f9hima@4ax.com>,
> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
> >
> > I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
> > way", which struck me as pretty weird.
> >
> > You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
> > pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
> > where you end up, at the end of jour journey.
>
> Someone turned off at a tangent ?

A sine quo non for seeing straight,

Jan

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 14:27 UTC

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
> way", which struck me as pretty weird.
>
> You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
> pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
> where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

What do you think Paul Simon was doing?

Jan

--
"I'm sittin' in the railway station
Got a ticket to my destination
On a tour of one-night stands
My suitcase and guitar in hand
And every stop is neatly planned
For a poet and a one-man band"

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 18:44 UTC

On 19-Mar-23 4:30, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 19/03/23 15:13, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>>> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at
>>>>>> each location, each location is a destination.  I guess
>>>>>> returning home is the final destination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>>>>
>>>> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
>>>> Destinations.
>>>
>>> Could one Limbo under the Gate?  To get to a preferred
>>> destination?
>>>
>>> Sitting around on clouds...  It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
>>
>> Heaven  for the climate, Hell for the company. - Mark Twain
>
> Yes, but in Hell you don't get free harp lessons.

I wonder if harpists get priority boarding and early acceptance?

Someone has to give those harp lessons.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: charles - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 19:21 UTC

In article <dKIRL.174162$%ng4.38097@fx09.ams1>,
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 19-Mar-23 4:30, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 19/03/23 15:13, lar3ryca wrote:
> >> On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>> On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> >>>> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at
> >>>>>> each location, each location is a destination. I guess
> >>>>>> returning home is the final destination.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
> >>>> Destinations.
> >>>
> >>> Could one Limbo under the Gate? To get to a preferred
> >>> destination?
> >>>
> >>> Sitting around on clouds... It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
> >>
> >> Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company. - Mark Twain
> >
> > Yes, but in Hell you don't get free harp lessons.

> I wonder if harpists get priority boarding and early acceptance?

as a harpist, I'm sure we do.

> Someone has to give those harp lessons.

yes

> --

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 20:25 UTC

lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> >> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
> >>
> >>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
> >>>> location, each location is a destination. I guess returning home is
> >>>> the final destination.
> >>>
> >>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
> >>
> >> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
> >> Destinations.
> >
> > Could one Limbo under the Gate? To get to a preferred destination?
> >
> > Sitting around on clouds... It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
>
> Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
> - Mark Twain

He didn't know about the others there yet,

Jan

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From: mai...@peterduncanson.net (Peter Duncanson [BrE])
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Subject: Re: Destination -- another word in danger of being skunked?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:26:05 +0000
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 by: Peter Duncanson [BrE - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:26 UTC

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 07:06:52 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
wrote:

>I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
>way", which struck me as pretty weird.
>
>You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
>pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
>where you end up, at the end of jour journey.

I've looked at a few websites using the phrase quoted above.
They seem to be about tourism. The context suggests to me that a
"destination" is somewhere a tourist will spend the night or nights
whereas a "place" is somewhere that will be visited during the day.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:03 UTC

On 19-Mar-23 19:21, charles wrote:
> In article <dKIRL.174162$%ng4.38097@fx09.ams1>,
> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 19-Mar-23 4:30, Peter Moylan wrote:

>>> Yes, but in Hell you don't get free harp lessons.
>
>> I wonder if harpists get priority boarding and early acceptance?
>
> as a harpist, I'm sure we do.

Evidently, harpists are optimistic pluckers.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: TonyCooper - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:53 UTC

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:26:05 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
<mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 07:06:52 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I recently saw an article headed "Places, and destinations along the
>>way", which struck me as pretty weird.
>>
>>You can pass though places on your way to a desination, but you cannot
>>pass through desinations on your way to a place. The desination is
>>where you end up, at the end of jour journey.
>
>I've looked at a few websites using the phrase quoted above.
>They seem to be about tourism. The context suggests to me that a
>"destination" is somewhere a tourist will spend the night or nights
>whereas a "place" is somewhere that will be visited during the day.

My "Bitch in the Box" does not agree with you. When I ask it to give
me directions to some location, when I get there it says "Your
destination is on the left (or right)". Unless it's a hotel, I don't
spend the night there.
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Snidely - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:31 UTC

Remember when Bertel Lund Hansen bragged outrageously? That was
Saturday:
> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>
>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
>>> location, each location is a destination.  I guess returning home is
>>> the final destination.
>>
>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
>
> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final Destinations.

The multi-player online and the single-player offline modes?

/dps "And where do the Zerg come from?"

--
"I'm glad unicorns don't ever need upgrades."
"We are as up as it is possible to get graded!"
_Phoebe and Her Unicorn_, 2016.05.15

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 by: bozo de niro - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:37 UTC

On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 9:14:03 PM UTC-7, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2023-03-18 19:21, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > On 18-Mar-23 22:10, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> >> Den 18.03.2023 kl. 22.12 skrev Sam Plusnet:
> >>
> >>>> Yes, if I have three errands to run with something to do at each
> >>>> location, each location is a destination. I guess returning home is
> >>>> the final destination.
> >>>
> >>> Arguably, we all have the same Final Destination.
> >>
> >> Some people would say that there are two quite different Final
> >> Destinations.
> >
> > Could one Limbo under the Gate? To get to a preferred destination?
> >
> > Sitting around on clouds... It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
> Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
> - Mark Twain
>
> --
> Greek cows say "μ"

How do you pronounce your name, lar3ryca?

I want to say Lyrica.

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