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Subject: Re: Brereton of Malpas and Shockley
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On Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 12:10:41 PM UTC-5, Kay Allen AG wrote:
> Thanks muchly. All instances of assistance and colliegiality shall be duly noted
> and expressed.
> K
> The...@aol.com wrote:
> > Tuesday, 14 January, 2003
> >
> > Dear Kay,
> >
> > The following shows the descent from Corbet of Moreton Corbet, co. Salop.
> > to Brereton of Malpas.
> >
> > This information is largely due to the courtesy and collegiality of
> > Robert O'Connor, as will be evident from the notes.
> >
> > Good luck, and good hunting.
> >
> > John *
> >
> > ______________________
> >
> > 1 Sir Thomas Corbet
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: 25 Dec 1281[1]
> > Death: 1310[1]
> > Father: Sir Robert Corbet (-1300)
> >
> > Knt., of Moreton Corbet and Wattlesborough, co. Salop
> >
> > Spouse: Amice[1]
> >
> > Children: Sir Robert (1304-1375)
> >
> > 1.1 Sir Robert Corbet
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: 1304[1]
> > Death: 1375[1]
> >
> > Knt., of Moreton Corbet and Wattlesborough, co. Salop.
> >
> > Spouse: Elizabeth Le Strange
> > Father: Fulk Le Strange (ca1267-<1323), Lord Strange of Blackmere
> > Mother: Eleanor Giffard
> > Marr: bef Mar 1323[1]
> >
> > Children: Thomas (-<1363)
> > Fulk (-1388)
> > Roger (-<1395)
> > Joan
> >
> > 1.1.1 Thomas Corbet
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Death: bef 1363, d.v.p.[1]
> >
> > heir apparent of his father[1]
> >
> > Children: Elizabeth (ca1357->1423)
> >
> > 1.1.1.1 Elizabeth Corbet
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: ca 1357[2]
> > Death: aft 1423[1]
> >
> > her inheritance (or maritagium) included the manors of Besseford and
> > Ballesley, co. Salop
> >
> > she had full seisin of same following the inquest on her husband's
> > death, 1394[2]
> >
> > Spouse: Sir John de Ipstones, of Ipstones and Blymhill, co. Staffs.
> > Death: 23 Feb 1394, London [murdered][3]
> > Father: John de Ipstones (-<1364)
> > Mother: NN de Cresswell
> > Marr: bef 1373[2]
> >
> > Children: Sir William (<1373-1399)
> >
> > 1.1.1.1.1 Sir William de Ipstones
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: bef 23 Feb 1373[3]
> > Death: 17 Oct 1399[4],[3]
> >
> > Knt., of Blymhill and Ipstones, co. Staffs.
> >
> > 2nd husband of Maud de Swinnerton[5]
> >
> > Spouse: Maud de Swinnerton
> > Birth: ca 1370[5]
> > Father: Sir Robert de Swinnerton (-<1396)
> > Mother: Elizabeth de Beke
> >
> > Children: Alice (ca1396-)
> > Christiana (ca1393-)
> >
> > 1.1.1.1.1.1 Alice de Ipstones
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: ca 1396[3]
> >
> > heiress of her father[4]
> >
> > identified as wife of Randle Brereton, and mother of his heir Randle
> > (pedigree of Brereton of Honford)[6]
> >
> > identified as
> > ".... d. to ..... Ipstons of Ipstons in Comitatu Staff. "
> > [Pedigree of Brereton of Malpas, Visitation of Cheshire (1580)][7]
> >
> > Spouse: Randle Brereton, of Malpas, co. Chester
> > Death: aft 1436[4]
> > Father: Sir William Brereton (-ca1381)
> > Mother: Margaret Done
> >
> > Children: Randle (ca1417->1468) of Malpas, co. Chester and
> > Ipstones, co. Staffs.
> > William (ca1419-) of Burras, co. Denbigh
> >
> > 1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William Brereton
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Birth: ca 1419[4]
> >
> > of Burras, co. Denbigh
> >
> > Pedigree of Brereton of Malpas [Harl. 1424, fo. 17] states :
> >
> > ' William Brereton of Burres in Com. Denbigh "[7]
> >
> > identified as William Brereton of Burros[2]
> >
> > Spouse: Katherine Wilde
> > Father: Thomas Wilde
> > Mother: Angharad ferch Ieuan
> > Marr: ca 1440[4]
> >
> > Children: Maud
> > Edward
> >
> > 1. Pedigree, Corbet of Moreton Corbet
> > Descent from Roger Corbet
> > comp. by Robert O'Connor
> > roco...@es.co.nz
> > 2. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
> > Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
> > Houghton and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
> > 3. Pedigree, Ipstones of Ipstones and Blymhill
> > Descent from William de Ipstones
> > comp. by Robert O'Connor
> > roco...@es.co.nz
> > 4. Pedigree, Brereton of Brereton
> > Descent from Sir William de Brereton
> > comp. by Robert O'Connor
> > roco...@es.co.nz
> > 5. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen
> > Pub Co., Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David
> > Faris).
> > 6. "Baronetcies of England, Ireland and Scotland," Burke's, online:
> > FamilyTreeMaker.com (extr 11/14/2000)
> > 7. "The Visitation of Cheshire," Harleian Series, Vol. 18, Vol. 18,
> > pp. 43 et seq. [Brereton of Malpas].
> >
> >
> > ______________________
> >
> > * John P. Ravilious

Hello,

Coming back to this old posting, I have been trying to follow the line from Corbet to Brereton.

Has anybody found any information on the wife of sir Thomas Corbet, and mother of Elizabeth Corbet, who married sir John de Ipstones?

There is a wikipedia article about these Corbets, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Corbet_(died_1395), and it only provides her name as Elizabeth.

Further up in the same family, a previous Thomas Corbet, died in 1310, is shown with a wife name Amicia, but with no details about her. Has she been identified?

J. Sardina

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