I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
his bedroom:

"I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
That's all! What else did you think is happening?"

This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But I
don't know the English word for it. Any help?

Physfitfreak hat am 12.04.2024 um 23:13 geschrieben:
>
>
> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
> his bedroom:
>
> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"

Is there a _single_ word corresponding to that description in any
language you know?

> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians.

Really? Some examples from real life, please?

On 4/12/24 17:05, Silvano wrote:
> Physfitfreak hat am 12.04.2024 um 23:13 geschrieben:
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>> his bedroom:
>>
>> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>
> Is there a _single_ word corresponding to that description in any
> language you know?
>
>
>
>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians.
>
> Really? Some examples from real life, please?

Aren't they often obfuscating culprits?

On 4/12/2024 11:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>
> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
> his bedroom:
>
>  "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>
>
> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But I
> don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>
>
>
>

to charkle
definition: v. addressing a victim following the observation of a crime
being committed against them

Source: me, etymology: came up with it

On 4/13/24 09:05, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 4/12/2024 11:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>> his bedroom:
>>
>>   "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>
>>
>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But
>> I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> to charkle
> definition: v. addressing a victim following the observation of a crime
> being committed against them
>
>
> Source: me, etymology: came up with it

That's not an existing word.

Physfitfreak wrote:

>> to charkle
>> definition: v. addressing a victim following the observation of a crime
>> being committed against them
>>
>> Source: me, etymology: came up with it
>
> That's not an existing word.

That was sort of evident from the message: "came up with it".

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

On 4/13/2024 7:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/13/24 09:05, Kyonshi wrote:
>> On 4/12/2024 11:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>>> his bedroom:
>>>
>>>   "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing
>>> the effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating
>>> body-material. That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>>
>>>
>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians.
>>> But I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> to charkle
>> definition: v. addressing a victim following the observation of a
>> crime being committed against them
>>
>>
>> Source: me, etymology: came up with it
>
>
> That's not an existing word.

now it is, I have seen it used before. (viz you just quoted it)

On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>
> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
> his bedroom:
>
>  "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>
>
> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But I
> don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>
>
>
>

The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of canceling the
victims' concerns.

What a bunch of idiots guys here must be in this language forum. Some of
them well-known idiots too. Bye :)

On 24/04/24 05:07, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>> his bedroom:
>>
>> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>
>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But
>> I don't know the English word for it. Any help?

> The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of canceling the
> victims' concerns.

Citation needed. I've never encountered this use of the word.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

Tuesday, Peter Moylan quipped:
> On 24/04/24 05:07, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>>> his bedroom:
>>>
>>> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>>
>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But
>>> I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>
>> The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of canceling the
>> victims' concerns.
>
> Citation needed. I've never encountered this use of the word.

Nor I. Social Media has given rise to "cancel culture", though. Not
the same thing, but I can see a distant similarity.

/dps

--
We’ve learned way more than we wanted to know about the early history
of American professional basketball, like that you could have once
watched a game between teams named the Indianapolis Kautskys and the
Akron Firestone Non-Skids. -- fivethirtyeight.com

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:47:53 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Tuesday, Peter Moylan quipped:
>> On 24/04/24 05:07, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>>>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>>>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>>>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>>>> his bedroom:
>>>>
>>>> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>>>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>>>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>>>
>>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But
>>>> I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>>
>>> The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of canceling the
>>> victims' concerns.
>>
>> Citation needed. I've never encountered this use of the word.
>
>Nor I. Social Media has given rise to "cancel culture", though. Not
>the same thing, but I can see a distant similarity.

The problem I have with applying any straightforward terms
is that the situation described is ridiculously extreme.

For this, I think I'd go with something more like deadpan humor.

--
Rich Ulrich

On 24/04/24 10:47, Snidely wrote:
> Tuesday, Peter Moylan quipped:
>> On 24/04/24 05:07, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that
>>>> describes, either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following
>>>> reaction from someone who's observing a crime being committed.
>>>> He is addressing the victim. And the crime is that a burglar is
>>>> stabbing the victim inside his bedroom:
>>>>
>>>> "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just
>>>> experiencing the effect of the ability of a sharp object
>>>> penetrating body-material. That's all! What else did you think
>>>> is happening?"
>>>>
>>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the
>>>> politicians. But I don't know the English word for it. Any
>>>> help?
>>
>>> The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of
>>> canceling the victims' concerns.
>>
>> Citation needed. I've never encountered this use of the word.
>
> Nor I. Social Media has given rise to "cancel culture", though. Not
> the same thing, but I can see a distant similarity.

I note that Physfitfreak appeared out of nowhere, posed a question, gave
an answer a little later, and then disappeared. That to me suggests
someone who is trying to get a new meaning of "cancel" adopted to
further some political agenda. We weren't offered any real-life example
of the "often used" technique.

It is possible that this special meaning exists in some insider group.
Perhaps one of the groups who are trying to convince us that genuine
news reports are "fake news".

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:57:27 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:

> I note that Physfitfreak appeared out of nowhere, posed a question, gave
> an answer a little later, and then disappeared. That to me suggests
> someone who is trying to get a new meaning of "cancel" adopted to
> further some political agenda.

More like a troll.

--
Cri-Cri

On 24-Apr-24 11:57, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> It is possible that this special meaning exists in some insider group.
> Perhaps one of the groups who are trying to convince us that genuine
> news reports are "fake news".

It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
ears.

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet wrote:

>> It is possible that this special meaning exists in some insider group.
>> Perhaps one of the groups who are trying to convince us that genuine
>> news reports are "fake news".
>
> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
> ears.

.... hanging in free air between two persons.

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

On 2024-04-24 12:50, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists in some insider group.
>>> Perhaps one of the groups who are trying to convince us that genuine
>>> news reports are "fake news".
>>
>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>> ears.
>
> ... hanging in free air between two persons.

In this case, it's more like "hanging in free air between one person's ears"

--
Doctor: "You have onomatopoeia"
"What is that?"
"It's exactly what it sounds like."

On 24-Apr-24 19:50, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists in some insider group.
>>> Perhaps one of the groups who are trying to convince us that genuine
>>> news reports are "fake news".
>>
>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>> ears.
>
> ... hanging in free air between two persons.

Interesting...
In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.
Two ears - yes.
A pair of ears - no.

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet wrote:

>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>>> ears.
>>
>> ... hanging in free air between two persons.
>
> Interesting...
> In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.

No, I was stretching it a bit.

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

Le 23/04/2024 à 23:37, Peter Moylan a écrit :
> On 24/04/24 05:07, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/12/24 16:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that describes,
>>> either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following reaction from
>>> someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is addressing the
>>> victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing the victim inside
>>> his bedroom:
>>>
>>>   "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing the
>>> effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating body-material.
>>> That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>>
>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians. But
>>> I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>
>> The word is "canceling." It is a very often used form of canceling the
>> victims' concerns.
>
> Citation needed. I've never encountered this use of the word.

I haven't either.

The closest I can find is the original sense of 'apathy', "/Freedom
from, or insensibility to, suffering/; hence, freedom from, or
insensibility to, passion or feeling; passionless existence" (my
emphasis) - OED, 1603 onwards.

I remain unenthused, though, since the later sense of "indolence of
mind" (1742 onwards) has come to dominate. I suppose one could write the
word a-pathy and pronounce it ape'athy....

On 25-Apr-24 5:48, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>>>> ears.
>>>
>>> ... hanging in free air between two persons.
>>
>> Interesting...
>> In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.
>
> No, I was stretching it a bit.

I know the Maasi people do that sort of thing.

Proof that you can find anything on the internet:

https://www.customplugs.com/pages/history-of-plugs-and-ear-stretching

--
Sam Plusnet

On Thursday, Sam Plusnet yelped out that:
> On 25-Apr-24 5:48, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>>>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>>>>> ears.
>>>>
>>>> ... hanging in free air between two persons.
>>>
>>> Interesting...
>>> In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.
>>
>> No, I was stretching it a bit.
>
> I know the Maasi people do that sort of thing.
>
> Proof that you can find anything on the internet:
>
> https://www.customplugs.com/pages/history-of-plugs-and-ear-stretching

South Pacific, too, until interrupted by Japanese occupation during
WW2.

/dps

--
Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

Sam Plusnet wrote:

>>>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>>>>> ears.
>>>>
>>>> ... hanging in free air between two persons.
>>>
>>> Interesting...
>>> In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.
>>
>> No, I was stretching it a bit.
>
> I know the Maasi people do that sort of thing.

And some Danes. I have seen mayby ten people, one of them face to face.

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

On 26-Apr-24 8:21, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>>>>>> It is possible that this special meaning exists only between one pair of
>>>>>> ears.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... hanging in free air between two persons.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting...
>>>> In the way I intended that phrase, your version wouldn't be 'a pair'.
>>>
>>> No, I was stretching it a bit.
>>
>> I know the Maasi people do that sort of thing.
>
> And some Danes. I have seen mayby ten people, one of them face to face.
>
I once worked with someone who had large plugs in both earlobes - plus a
good many other piercings and associated adornments (those normally
visible, and otherwise).
I took great care to _not_ enquire about these - nor be in earshot (sic)
if the topic seemed to be about to be aired.

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet wrote:

>>>> No, I was stretching it a bit.
>>>
>>> I know the Maasi people do that sort of thing.
>>
>> And some Danes. I have seen mayby ten people, one of them face to face.
>>
> I once worked with someone who had large plugs in both earlobes - plus a
> good many other piercings and associated adornments (those normally
> visible, and otherwise).
> I took great care to _not_ enquire about these - nor be in earshot (sic)
> if the topic seemed to be about to be aired.

I didn't enquire either, and I took care to pretend that I wasn't
affected by the sight which I was.

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

On 4/19/2024 4:38 PM, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 4/13/2024 7:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/13/24 09:05, Kyonshi wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2024 11:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a single word in the English language that
>>>> describes, either as a verb, or by an adjective, the following
>>>> reaction from someone who's observing a crime being committed. He is
>>>> addressing the victim. And the crime is that a burglar is stabbing
>>>> the victim inside his bedroom:
>>>>
>>>>   "I don't understand the fuss you make. You are just experiencing
>>>> the effect of the ability of a sharp object penetrating
>>>> body-material. That's all! What else did you think is happening?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This technique is often used in news media and by the politicians.
>>>> But I don't know the English word for it. Any help?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> to charkle
>>> definition: v. addressing a victim following the observation of a
>>> crime being committed against them
>>>
>>>
>>> Source: me, etymology: came up with it
>>
>>
>> That's not an existing word.
>
> now it is, I have seen it used before. (viz you just quoted it)
>

deadpan irony ?

sarcasm ?