On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:06:58 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>> ><prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>> >>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>> >>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>> >
>> >When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>> >
>> >And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>
>
>The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.

No need to state the obvious!

On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:16:41 -0400, Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:

>True North wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>
>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>
>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>
>Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?

He's disparaging turncoat shits like you Alexa.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:03:52 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:06:58 -0700 (PDT), True North
><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>> ><prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> >>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>> >>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>> >>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>> >
>>> >When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>> >
>>> >And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>
>>
>>The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>
>And again you don't have the balls to answer the question.

And, again, you don't have any balls missy.

On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 21:49:27 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:03:52 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:06:58 -0700 (PDT), True North
> ><prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
> >>> ><prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>> >>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
> >>> >>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
> >>> >>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
> >>> >
> >>> >When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
> >>> >
> >>> >And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
> >>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
> >>
> >>
> >>The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
> >
> >And again you don't have the balls to answer the question.
> And, again, you don't have any balls missy.

I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <sunny@south.com> wrote:

>On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> >> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>> >> > On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>> >> > > True North wrote:
>>>> >> > > > On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>> >> > > >> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > > >>
>>>> >> > > >>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>> >> > > >>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > > >>>
>>>> >> > > >>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> >> > > >>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>> >> > > >>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>> >> > > >>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>> >> > > >>>>
>>>> >> > > >>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>> >> > > >>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>> >> > > >>>
>>>> >> > > >>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>> >> > > >> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>> >> > > Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>> >> > More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>> >> > What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>> >> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Really JackOff.
>>>> >Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you for your service.
>>>Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a treat to go down and tour them.
>>>The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>
>>I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>
>The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.

The Italians have them now ;)

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:24:35 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:

>On 3/17/2022 5:24 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <sunny@south.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>> <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>>>>>>> More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>>>>>>> What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>>>>>> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really JackOff.
>>>>>>> Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your service.
>>>>> Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a treat to go down and tour them.
>>>>> The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>>> Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>>>
>>>> I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>>> so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>>> Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>>> I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>>>
>>> The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.
>
>
>>
>> These days there are quite a few yachts that size but I doubt they
>> have a 5" gun, Hedgehogs and ASW torpedoes.
>
>The three ships I was on in the Navy were all much smaller than some
>of today's super yachts. Two were mid 50's (commissioned) Destroyer
>Escorts, 315' LOA. One originally had the Hedgehog system and the other
>had a rocket propelled ASW warhead called "Weapon Alpha". Both systems
>had been removed by the time I reported aboard the ships. They both
>had twin 3"/50's and Mark 46 torpedo launchers along with 50 Cal
>machine guns.
>
>I don't know much about the Hedgehog system other than it was
>developed by the Brits in WWII. Weapon Alpha came later.
>
>Both ships had been updated with hangers and flight decks for the
>unmanned "Dash" helicopter system but the Dash system had also been
>retired by the time I was on either of the ships. The hanger was
>converted into an additional crew's berthing area to accommodate
>12 additional crew members for a project called "ITASS". I was
>one of the ITASS crew members, so I slept in the hanger.
>
>The third ship was a PG (USS Surprise, PG 97) and although had
>beautiful lines (to me) was not particularly seaworthy in
>heavy seas. Unique to it was it's propulsion systems.
>It had two diesel engines for cruising at up to 12 knots and
>a gas turbine for speeds in excess of 37 knots (43 mph). I
>know for a fact that those published speeds were conservative.
>During a routine called a "crashback" it could go from
>full speed forward on the gas turbine to a full stop in less
>than the ship's length which was only 165 feet. It was lightly
>armored with:
>
> 1 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber gun
> 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun mount
> 4 × .50 caliber machine guns
>
>but made up for it in speed and ultra maneuverability.
>The USS Surprise was an exciting experience in many ways.

The Alpha (Asroc) used the MK 44 and later the 46 as the warhead. It
was just a rocket propelled torpedo.
I was the mount captain for the Mk 44s. I knew quite a bit about them
55 years ago. We had 2 triple tube mounts and 4 live fish p[lus a
practice <inert> one. They were totally autonomous after launch. I
called them our doomsday weapon because if "this is not a drill" I was
supposed to pull the salt water plugs and manually put in presets I
got from CIC. The motors were salt water activated. When the 02 deck
went underwater, the fish would go kill the sub that killed us.
The WHECs also had hedgehogs in addition to the tubes.
Hedgehogs were actually pretty cool for the early 40s. They threw a
warhead with about 45 pounds of RDX and only went off if they hit
something, then they all went off. That didn't disturb the water on a
miss. It was way better than depth charges that boiled the water every
time you rolled one and depended on setting the depth right to even
have a chance.
I was on a couple of 210s with 3" 50s but the WHEC cutters all had 5"
38s.
That mount was the best place to go and chill when you were on station
at sea. You really wanted to be up in the mount captain chair tho.
When blue water broke over the mount, the gasket around the barrel
flange leaked. Lower in the mount might get your book wet. ;-)

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:56:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:24:42 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 3/17/2022 5:24 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <su...@south.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>>>>>>>>> More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>>>>>>>>> What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>>>>>>>> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really JackOff.
>>>>>>>>> Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>>>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>>>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your service.
>>>>>>> Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every
>>>>>>> summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a
>>>>>>> treat to go down and tour them.
>>>>>>> The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our
>>>>>>> Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our
>>>>>>> Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>>>>> Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they
>>>>>>> drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>>>>> so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>>>>> Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>>>>> I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>>>>>
>>>>> The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> These days there are quite a few yachts that size but I doubt they
>>>> have a 5" gun, Hedgehogs and ASW torpedoes.
>>> The three ships I was on in the Navy were all much smaller than some
>>> of today's super yachts. Two were mid 50's (commissioned) Destroyer
>>> Escorts, 315' LOA. One originally had the Hedgehog system and the other
>>> had a rocket propelled ASW warhead called "Weapon Alpha". Both systems
>>> had been removed by the time I reported aboard the ships. They both
>>> had twin 3"/50's and Mark 46 torpedo launchers along with 50 Cal
>>> machine guns.
>>>
>>> I don't know much about the Hedgehog system other than it was
>>> developed by the Brits in WWII. Weapon Alpha came later.
>>>
>>> Both ships had been updated with hangers and flight decks for the
>>> unmanned "Dash" helicopter system but the Dash system had also been
>>> retired by the time I was on either of the ships. The hanger was
>>> converted into an additional crew's berthing area to accommodate
>>> 12 additional crew members for a project called "ITASS". I was
>>> one of the ITASS crew members, so I slept in the hanger.
>>>
>>> The third ship was a PG (USS Surprise, PG 97) and although had
>>> beautiful lines (to me) was not particularly seaworthy in
>>> heavy seas. Unique to it was it's propulsion systems.
>>> It had two diesel engines for cruising at up to 12 knots and
>>> a gas turbine for speeds in excess of 37 knots (43 mph). I
>>> know for a fact that those published speeds were conservative.
>>> During a routine called a "crashback" it could go from
>>> full speed forward on the gas turbine to a full stop in less
>>> than the ship's length which was only 165 feet. It was lightly
>>> armored with:
>>>
>>> 1 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber gun
>>> 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun mount
>>> 4 × .50 caliber machine guns
>>>
>>> but made up for it in speed and ultra maneuverability.
>>> The USS Surprise was an exciting experience in many ways.
>>> --
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Some interesting ITASS tidbits on Google books:
>>
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=eJ_JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT162&lpg=PT162&dq=project++%22ITASS%22
>>
>> We once got a tour of a USCG patrol boat in the 200 ft range that had
>> dual diesel and turbine power. The turbine used so much fuel that they
>> had a very limited usage budget, something like less than 30 minutes per month as I recall.
>>
>
>Seems as if a lot of the Russians boats were turbine. Acquaintance told
>me one time they were anchored near a bunch of Russian boats and there was
>a warning of a possible attack. Our ships were still making steam when
>the Russians lit off the turbines and scooted.

The WAVPs were diesel and carried enough to go around the world. (Old
sea plane tenders that had big fuel tanks). They could also start up
and go pretty fast.

On 3/18/2022 1:44 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:24:42 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 3/17/2022 5:24 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <su...@south.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>>>>>>>> More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>>>>>>>> What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>>>>>>> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really JackOff.
>>>>>>>> Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your service.
>>>>>> Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a treat to go down and tour them.
>>>>>> The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>>>> Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>>>> so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>>>> Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>>>> I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>>>>
>>>> The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> These days there are quite a few yachts that size but I doubt they
>>> have a 5" gun, Hedgehogs and ASW torpedoes.
>> The three ships I was on in the Navy were all much smaller than some
>> of today's super yachts. Two were mid 50's (commissioned) Destroyer
>> Escorts, 315' LOA. One originally had the Hedgehog system and the other
>> had a rocket propelled ASW warhead called "Weapon Alpha". Both systems
>> had been removed by the time I reported aboard the ships. They both
>> had twin 3"/50's and Mark 46 torpedo launchers along with 50 Cal
>> machine guns.
>>
>> I don't know much about the Hedgehog system other than it was
>> developed by the Brits in WWII. Weapon Alpha came later.
>>
>> Both ships had been updated with hangers and flight decks for the
>> unmanned "Dash" helicopter system but the Dash system had also been
>> retired by the time I was on either of the ships. The hanger was
>> converted into an additional crew's berthing area to accommodate
>> 12 additional crew members for a project called "ITASS". I was
>> one of the ITASS crew members, so I slept in the hanger.
>>
>> The third ship was a PG (USS Surprise, PG 97) and although had
>> beautiful lines (to me) was not particularly seaworthy in
>> heavy seas. Unique to it was it's propulsion systems.
>> It had two diesel engines for cruising at up to 12 knots and
>> a gas turbine for speeds in excess of 37 knots (43 mph). I
>> know for a fact that those published speeds were conservative.
>> During a routine called a "crashback" it could go from
>> full speed forward on the gas turbine to a full stop in less
>> than the ship's length which was only 165 feet. It was lightly
>> armored with:
>>
>> 1 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber gun
>> 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun mount
>> 4 × .50 caliber machine guns
>>
>> but made up for it in speed and ultra maneuverability.
>> The USS Surprise was an exciting experience in many ways.
>> --
>
> ===
>
> Some interesting ITASS tidbits on Google books:
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=eJ_JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT162&lpg=PT162&dq=project++%22ITASS%22
>
> We once got a tour of a USCG patrol boat in the 200 ft range that had dual diesel and turbine power. The turbine used so much fuel that they had a very limited usage budget, something like less than 30 minutes per month as I recall.

A retired Rear Admiral is working on a book about ITASS that is
scheduled for publication later this year. He interviewed me
via e-mail last year regarding my recollections of being
involved in the project. Surprised me because at the time I
was involved I was a junior enlisted crew member. But, I was
promised a copy of the book when it is released.

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On 3/18/2022 2:56 PM, Bill wrote:
> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:24:42 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 3/17/2022 5:24 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <su...@south.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>>>>>>>>> More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>>>>>>>>> What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>>>>>>>> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really JackOff.
>>>>>>>>> Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>>>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>>>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your service.
>>>>>>> Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every
>>>>>>> summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a
>>>>>>> treat to go down and tour them.
>>>>>>> The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our
>>>>>>> Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our
>>>>>>> Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>>>>> Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they
>>>>>>> drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>>>>> so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>>>>> Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>>>>> I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>>>>>
>>>>> The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> These days there are quite a few yachts that size but I doubt they
>>>> have a 5" gun, Hedgehogs and ASW torpedoes.
>>> The three ships I was on in the Navy were all much smaller than some
>>> of today's super yachts. Two were mid 50's (commissioned) Destroyer
>>> Escorts, 315' LOA. One originally had the Hedgehog system and the other
>>> had a rocket propelled ASW warhead called "Weapon Alpha". Both systems
>>> had been removed by the time I reported aboard the ships. They both
>>> had twin 3"/50's and Mark 46 torpedo launchers along with 50 Cal
>>> machine guns.
>>>
>>> I don't know much about the Hedgehog system other than it was
>>> developed by the Brits in WWII. Weapon Alpha came later.
>>>
>>> Both ships had been updated with hangers and flight decks for the
>>> unmanned "Dash" helicopter system but the Dash system had also been
>>> retired by the time I was on either of the ships. The hanger was
>>> converted into an additional crew's berthing area to accommodate
>>> 12 additional crew members for a project called "ITASS". I was
>>> one of the ITASS crew members, so I slept in the hanger.
>>>
>>> The third ship was a PG (USS Surprise, PG 97) and although had
>>> beautiful lines (to me) was not particularly seaworthy in
>>> heavy seas. Unique to it was it's propulsion systems.
>>> It had two diesel engines for cruising at up to 12 knots and
>>> a gas turbine for speeds in excess of 37 knots (43 mph). I
>>> know for a fact that those published speeds were conservative.
>>> During a routine called a "crashback" it could go from
>>> full speed forward on the gas turbine to a full stop in less
>>> than the ship's length which was only 165 feet. It was lightly
>>> armored with:
>>>
>>> 1 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber gun
>>> 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun mount
>>> 4 × .50 caliber machine guns
>>>
>>> but made up for it in speed and ultra maneuverability.
>>> The USS Surprise was an exciting experience in many ways.
>>> --
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Some interesting ITASS tidbits on Google books:
>>
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=eJ_JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT162&lpg=PT162&dq=project++%22ITASS%22
>>
>> We once got a tour of a USCG patrol boat in the 200 ft range that had
>> dual diesel and turbine power. The turbine used so much fuel that they
>> had a very limited usage budget, something like less than 30 minutes per month as I recall.
>>
>
> Seems as if a lot of the Russians boats were turbine. Acquaintance told
> me one time they were anchored near a bunch of Russian boats and there was
> a warning of a possible attack. Our ships were still making steam when
> the Russians lit off the turbines and scooted.
>

Just about all US Navy combat ships are now turbine powered (or
nuclear). The USS Spruance (DD-963) was the first US destroyer
that used gas turbine power, commissioned in 1975. It's range
was:
6,000 nautical miles at 20 knots and
3,300 nautical miles at 30 knots

It was decommissioned in 2005. I enjoy reading about the history of
Navy ships and what becomes of them. Some are transferred to
foreign countries for use in there Navy's (i.e. the USS Surprise
was transferred to the Turkish Navy), some are sold for scrape
and some are used as target practice and sunk. This was the fate
of the USS Spruance. She was sunk as a target for aircraft launched
Harpoon missiles on 8 December 2006.

Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
> On 3/18/2022 2:56 PM, Bill wrote:
>> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:24:42 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>>> On 3/17/2022 5:24 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:32:38 GMT, Floridian <su...@south.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/16/22 9:43 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 19:55:58 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 22:24:05 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 8:24:29 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 20:16:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 March 2022 at 18:33:58 UTC-3, Mr Robot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:19:28 -0500, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 11:20:46 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to properly punctuate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what, oh dumbass, have Trump's supporters done that's illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to learn to think on your own? Put down the Tucker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The John was a career army man. His duty was to bow and scrape before his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superiors and crap all over anyone unlucky enough to be below him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you really disparaging the United States Army, dummy?
>>>>>>>>>>>> More like one of its battlefield promotions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What branch did y'all serve in?
>>>>>>>>>>> You are the only one here to serve in the toilet brush brigade, dummy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really JackOff.
>>>>>>>>>> Don't believe I've ever heard y'all claiming to have served your country.
>>>>>>>>> I kept the godless communists from ever getting past the Wilson
>>>>>>>>> Bridge, unless a blue state elected them. (6 years USCG and Navy)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your service.
>>>>>>>> Back when I was a youngster the American Navy visited every
>>>>>>>> summer..sometimes a couple carriers the same year. It was always a
>>>>>>>> treat to go down and tour them.
>>>>>>>> The last one was the Coral Sea. They came and tied up at our
>>>>>>>> Dockyard their last year and came back a few months later to our
>>>>>>>> Pief 20/21 because they liked the city. Believe that was their farewell tour.
>>>>>>>> Since then we have seen a few of the Nimitz class carriers but they
>>>>>>>> drop anchor out in the mid harbour and no tours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got to walk around on the Forrestal once at NOB but the sombitch was
>>>>>>> so big I didn't get to see a lot of it. I also got to walk around the
>>>>>>> Midway in San Diego. Big but nothing like the Forrestal.
>>>>>>> I was on small ships, two 311s and two 210s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The oligarchs used to have bigger boats than that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These days there are quite a few yachts that size but I doubt they
>>>>> have a 5" gun, Hedgehogs and ASW torpedoes.
>>>> The three ships I was on in the Navy were all much smaller than some
>>>> of today's super yachts. Two were mid 50's (commissioned) Destroyer
>>>> Escorts, 315' LOA. One originally had the Hedgehog system and the other
>>>> had a rocket propelled ASW warhead called "Weapon Alpha". Both systems
>>>> had been removed by the time I reported aboard the ships. They both
>>>> had twin 3"/50's and Mark 46 torpedo launchers along with 50 Cal
>>>> machine guns.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know much about the Hedgehog system other than it was
>>>> developed by the Brits in WWII. Weapon Alpha came later.
>>>>
>>>> Both ships had been updated with hangers and flight decks for the
>>>> unmanned "Dash" helicopter system but the Dash system had also been
>>>> retired by the time I was on either of the ships. The hanger was
>>>> converted into an additional crew's berthing area to accommodate
>>>> 12 additional crew members for a project called "ITASS". I was
>>>> one of the ITASS crew members, so I slept in the hanger.
>>>>
>>>> The third ship was a PG (USS Surprise, PG 97) and although had
>>>> beautiful lines (to me) was not particularly seaworthy in
>>>> heavy seas. Unique to it was it's propulsion systems.
>>>> It had two diesel engines for cruising at up to 12 knots and
>>>> a gas turbine for speeds in excess of 37 knots (43 mph). I
>>>> know for a fact that those published speeds were conservative.
>>>> During a routine called a "crashback" it could go from
>>>> full speed forward on the gas turbine to a full stop in less
>>>> than the ship's length which was only 165 feet. It was lightly
>>>> armored with:
>>>>
>>>> 1 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber gun
>>>> 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun mount
>>>> 4 × .50 caliber machine guns
>>>>
>>>> but made up for it in speed and ultra maneuverability.
>>>> The USS Surprise was an exciting experience in many ways.
>>>> --
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Some interesting ITASS tidbits on Google books:
>>>
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=eJ_JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT162&lpg=PT162&dq=project++%22ITASS%22
>>>
>>> We once got a tour of a USCG patrol boat in the 200 ft range that had
>>> dual diesel and turbine power. The turbine used so much fuel that they
>>> had a very limited usage budget, something like less than 30 minutes
>>> per month as I recall.
>>>
>>
>> Seems as if a lot of the Russians boats were turbine. Acquaintance told
>> me one time they were anchored near a bunch of Russian boats and there was
>> a warning of a possible attack. Our ships were still making steam when
>> the Russians lit off the turbines and scooted.
>>
>
> Just about all US Navy combat ships are now turbine powered (or
> nuclear). The USS Spruance (DD-963) was the first US destroyer
> that used gas turbine power, commissioned in 1975. It's range
> was:
> 6,000 nautical miles at 20 knots and
> 3,300 nautical miles at 30 knots
>
> It was decommissioned in 2005. I enjoy reading about the history of
> Navy ships and what becomes of them. Some are transferred to
> foreign countries for use in there Navy's (i.e. the USS Surprise
> was transferred to the Turkish Navy), some are sold for scrape
> and some are used as target practice and sunk. This was the fate
> of the USS Spruance. She was sunk as a target for aircraft launched
> Harpoon missiles on 8 December 2006.
>
> Today, the bulk of the US Navy is made up of the Arleigh Burke class of
> guided missile destroyers (DDGs) of which 69 are in active status.
>
> The DDG combines the capabilities of frigates (formerly DE's),
> destroyers and cruisers. They are all equipped with the integrated
> Aegis combat system and are all gas turbine powered. They have
> four GE gas turbines on each ship developing 26,250 bhp *each*.
> Range is 4,400 nautical miles at 20 knots with top speed in excess
> of 30 knots (35 mph).
>
>

On 3/10/22 4:32 PM, Bill wrote:
>True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 16:17:43 UTC-4, Floridian wrote:
>>> On 3/10/22 12:10 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 03:00:11 UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 17:20:16 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 20:52:48 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>> Excluding children that would be nearly a third of the country, dummy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Y'all just need bigger jails, Ditsy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you sound like the Chinese. If someone is not in lock step with
>>>>>>> the current government there, they get thrown in jail.
>>>>>>> Is that really what you propose?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like it. He supports Trudeau confiscation of bank accounts, etc.
>>>>> Hey Swill, I support out gov't standing up to mobs committing criminal acts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, demonstrating is a criminologist act?
>>>>
>>> it is when Donnies king tells them to stop; and they don't
>>> --
>>> See Fox News for the truth
>>
>>
>> Sorry Justine but this country doesn't bow and scrape to the lowest
>> common denominator as y'all have done since Trumpty Dumpty came to power.
>>
>
>Actually your country has done some really crappy stuff over the years.
>Your bad acts are why we have Cajuns in Louisiana. The Expulsion of the
>Acadians from the maritimes makes you proud, eh?
>

Speaking of crappy; have they done anything about that cesspool of a harbor
yet?

justan <me@myplace.com> wrote:
> On 3/10/22 4:32 PM, Bill wrote:
>> True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 16:17:43 UTC-4, Floridian wrote:
>>>> On 3/10/22 12:10 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 03:00:11 UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 17:20:16 -0800 (PST), True North
>>>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 20:52:48 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> True North wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 at 14:53:07 UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado Election Official Tina Peters Indicted As Part of 2020 Election Probe
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo News - March 9, 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lock 'em all up including Trumps supporters.
>>>>>>>>>> Excluding children that would be nearly a third of the country, dummy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Y'all just need bigger jails, Ditsy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now you sound like the Chinese. If someone is not in lock step with
>>>>>>>> the current government there, they get thrown in jail.
>>>>>>>> Is that really what you propose?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like it. He supports Trudeau confiscation of bank accounts, etc.
>>>>>> Hey Swill, I support out gov't standing up to mobs committing criminal acts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, demonstrating is a criminologist act?
>>>>>
>>>> it is when Donnies king tells them to stop; and they don't
>>>> --
>>>> See Fox News for the truth
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry Justine but this country doesn't bow and scrape to the lowest
>>> common denominator as y'all have done since Trumpty Dumpty came to power.
>>>
>>
>> Actually your country has done some really crappy stuff over the years.
>> Your bad acts are why we have Cajuns in Louisiana. The Expulsion of the
>> Acadians from the maritimes makes you proud, eh?
>>
>
> Speaking of crappy; have they done anything about that cesspool of a harbor
> yet?
>

Well, they tried to blow it up years ago.