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 by: Btraven - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 20:35 UTC

Pinchas Lapide quoted approvingly Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s observation that "He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end by loving himself better than all."[5]

Pinchas Lapide assentiens Samuelis Taylor Coleridge dicto, citavit: "Qui incipit Christianitatem amando magis quam veritatem, persequetur amando suam ipsius sectam vel ecclesiam magis quam Christianitatem, et finem capiet amando se ipsum magis quam omnes alios.

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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 1 May 2023 17:52 UTC

Btraven wrote:
> Pinchas Lapide quoted approvingly Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s observation that "He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end by loving himself better than all."[5]
>
> Pinchas Lapide assentiens Samuelis Taylor Coleridge dicto, citavit: "Qui incipit Christianitatem amando magis quam veritatem, persequetur amando suam ipsius sectam vel ecclesiam magis quam Christianitatem, et finem capiet amando se ipsum magis quam omnes alios.
Cui bono veritas?
Plus valet in iudiciis probabilitas; plus valet inter aedes et vias
hominum fictio iucunda; et plerosque summa conceptio virtutis cuius
capaces sunt eos iubet amicis adsistere. Tantummodo doctis et eruditis
placet veritatem explorare, nam eis est curiositas tamquam filum
Ariadnaeum quod ad felicitatem sperant ducturum esse, sed quod saepius
suos admiratores in fauces Minotauri iactat.
Confiteor equidem me inter eos versari et fulgorem veritatis persequi
paene religiose; sed quo magis senesco eo minus intellego qua de causa.
Una res me ab ea deserenda detinet; in peius fatum caderem sine rate
rationis veritatisque, ut nihil dicam de mea animi aequitate et
sanitate. Veritas et eius studium est meus Deus, licet ducat ad melius
licet ducat ad peius.
Edus
https://youtu.be/KcXUiNHFngI
(Private Investigations; Dire Straits)
Investigationes Privatae
Mihi est mysterium
Incipit tamen ludus
Solito pretio
Una cum sumptu.
Cognitio propria
In ephemeride.
Mea est haec investigatio
Nec publica inquisitio.
Renuntiationes scrutor
Apud sordem et faecem.
Omnia hominum genera
Hoc labore invenio.
Traditio et proditio
Suum ius semper habent,
Et ratione comperta
Nequeo ei suescere.
Quid tandem habes
Diei in fine?
Quid tunc habes
Ad progressum nominandum?
Vischii ampullam
Mendaciorum novam tabullam,
Vela pro fenestra
Dolorem post oculos.
In vitam vulneratus
Sine pretio operae
Investigationibus Privatis.
*********************************
It's a mystery to me
The game commences
For the usual fee
Plus expenses
Confidential information
It's in a diary
This is my investigation
It's not a public inquiry
I go checking out the reports
Digging up the dirt
You get to meet all sorts
In this line of work
Treachery and treason
There's always an excuse for it
And when I find the reason
I still can't get used to it
And what have you got
At the end of the day?
What have you got
To take away?
A bottle of whisky
And a new set of lies
Blinds on a window
And a pain behind the eyes
Scarred for life
No compensation
Private investigations.

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 by: Btraven - Mon, 1 May 2023 21:42 UTC

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 11:03:19 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Btraven wrote:
> > Pinchas Lapide quoted approvingly Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s observation that "He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end by loving himself better than all."[5]
> >
> > Pinchas Lapide assentiens Samuelis Taylor Coleridge dicto, citavit: "Qui incipit Christianitatem amando magis quam veritatem, persequetur amando suam ipsius sectam vel ecclesiam magis quam Christianitatem, et finem capiet amando se ipsum magis quam omnes alios.
> Cui bono veritas?
> Plus valet in iudiciis probabilitas; plus valet inter aedes et vias
> hominum fictio iucunda; et plerosque summa conceptio virtutis cuius
> capaces sunt eos iubet amicis adsistere. Tantummodo doctis et eruditis
> placet veritatem explorare, nam eis est curiositas tamquam filum
> Ariadnaeum quod ad felicitatem sperant ducturum esse, sed quod saepius
> suos admiratores in fauces Minotauri iactat.
>
> Confiteor equidem me inter eos versari et fulgorem veritatis persequi
> paene religiose; sed quo magis senesco eo minus intellego qua de causa.
> Una res me ab ea deserenda detinet; in peius fatum caderem sine rate
> rationis veritatisque, ut nihil dicam de mea animi aequitate et
> sanitate. Veritas et eius studium est meus Deus, licet ducat ad melius
> licet ducat ad peius.
>
> Edus
>
> https://youtu.be/KcXUiNHFngI
> (Private Investigations; Dire Straits)
>
> Investigationes Privatae
>
> Mihi est mysterium
> Incipit tamen ludus
> Solito pretio
> Una cum sumptu.
> Cognitio propria
> In ephemeride.
> Mea est haec investigatio
> Nec publica inquisitio.
>
> Renuntiationes scrutor
> Apud sordem et faecem.
> Omnia hominum genera
> Hoc labore invenio.
> Traditio et proditio
> Suum ius semper habent,
> Et ratione comperta
> Nequeo ei suescere.
>
> Quid tandem habes
> Diei in fine?
> Quid tunc habes
> Ad progressum nominandum?
> Vischii ampullam
> Mendaciorum novam tabullam,
> Vela pro fenestra
> Dolorem post oculos.
>
> In vitam vulneratus
> Sine pretio operae
> Investigationibus Privatis.
>
> *********************************
> It's a mystery to me
> The game commences
> For the usual fee
> Plus expenses
> Confidential information
> It's in a diary
> This is my investigation
> It's not a public inquiry
>
> I go checking out the reports
> Digging up the dirt
> You get to meet all sorts
> In this line of work
> Treachery and treason
> There's always an excuse for it
> And when I find the reason
> I still can't get used to it
>
> And what have you got
> At the end of the day?
> What have you got
> To take away?
> A bottle of whisky
> And a new set of lies
> Blinds on a window
> And a pain behind the eyes
>
> Scarred for life
> No compensation
> Private investigations.

vita tenus cicatricosus
sine pecunia doloris
indagines sub rosa.

Thanks for this. Sam Spade digging up dirt on the slinky blonde's husband. I couldn't make out the lyrics at the link you posted; drowned out by the instrumentals, which were for me somewhat reminiscent of Pink Floyd. It's like something out of Raymond Chandler:
".... he looked about as inconspicuous as a tarantula on a slice of angel food. "
Videbatur tam inconspicuus quam tarantula in frusto lagani spongiosi.

b.t. raven

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