The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
website:
https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
and also the pedigree here:
https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO

Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1

Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.

Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
in Islington, London:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV

Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM

George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.

She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW

Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results

Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1

The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO

With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up

Their ancestor here:
https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up

Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
both descendants of Henry II:
https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO

Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174

Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K

and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> website:
> https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> and also the pedigree here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
>
> Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
>
> Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
>
> Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> in Islington, London:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
>
> Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
>
> George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
>
> She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
>
> Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
>
> Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
>
> The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
>
> With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
>
>
> Their ancestor here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
>
> Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> both descendants of Henry II:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
>
> Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
>
> Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
>
> and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4

Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.

Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > website:
> > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > and also the pedigree here:
> > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> >
> > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> >
> > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> >
> > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > in Islington, London:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> >
> > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> >
> > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> >
> > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> >
> > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> >
> > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> >
> > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> >
> > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> >
> >
> > Their ancestor here:
> > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> >
> > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > both descendants of Henry II:
> > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> >
> > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> >
> > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> >
> > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
>
> Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...

Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...

https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > > website:
> > > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > > and also the pedigree here:
> > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> > >
> > > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> > >
> > > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> > >
> > > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > > in Islington, London:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> > >
> > > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> > >
> > > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> > >
> > > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> > >
> > > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> > >
> > > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> > >
> > > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> > >
> > > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> > >
> > >
> > > Their ancestor here:
> > > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> > >
> > > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > > both descendants of Henry II:
> > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> > >
> > > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> > >
> > > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> > >
> > > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> > Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
> >
> > Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...
> Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover

Adlard made a trip to Illinois and Pennsylvania sometime prior to 1821, so in addition to his 19 English children, one suspects there could be a few American by-blows.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Welby_s_Visit_to_North_America/Aw70-9qf0HAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=welby+rawsby&pg=PA143&printsec=frontcover

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > > > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > > > website:
> > > > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > > > and also the pedigree here:
> > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> > > >
> > > > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > > > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > > > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> > > >
> > > > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > > > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> > > >
> > > > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > > > in Islington, London:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> > > >
> > > > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > > > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> > > >
> > > > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > > > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> > > >
> > > > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> > > >
> > > > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > > > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > > > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> > > >
> > > > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > > > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> > > >
> > > > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> > > >
> > > > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Their ancestor here:
> > > > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > > > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > > > both descendants of Henry II:
> > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> > > >
> > > > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > > > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> > > >
> > > > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> > > >
> > > > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> > > Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
> > >
> > > Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...
> > Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover
> Adlard made a trip to Illinois and Pennsylvania sometime prior to 1821, so in addition to his 19 English children, one suspects there could be a few American by-blows.
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Welby_s_Visit_to_North_America/Aw70-9qf0HAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=welby+rawsby&pg=PA143&printsec=frontcover

Adlard Welby's list of children includes a son Alfred, born Jan. 1820, "at Philadelphia U.S.Am[erica]."

Is the below a match?

Alfred Welby, 1820 - 1903
Alfred Welby was born on month day 1820, at birth place , Pennsylvania.
Alfred married Susan Welby on month day 1843, at age 23 at marriage place .
They had 9 children: Bertha Welby , Susan Lydia Welby and 7 other children .
....
Alfred passed away on month day 1903, at age 83 at death place .

The names Susan Lydia and Bertha are suggestive.

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:08:38 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > > > > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > > > > website:
> > > > > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > > > > and also the pedigree here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > > > > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > > > > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > > > > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> > > > >
> > > > > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > > > > in Islington, London:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> > > > >
> > > > > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > > > > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> > > > >
> > > > > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > > > > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> > > > >
> > > > > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> > > > >
> > > > > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > > > > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > > > > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> > > > >
> > > > > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > > > > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> > > > >
> > > > > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Their ancestor here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > > > > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > > > > both descendants of Henry II:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > > > > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> > > > >
> > > > > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> > > > >
> > > > > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> > > > Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...
> > > Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover
> > Adlard made a trip to Illinois and Pennsylvania sometime prior to 1821, so in addition to his 19 English children, one suspects there could be a few American by-blows.
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Welby_s_Visit_to_North_America/Aw70-9qf0HAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=welby+rawsby&pg=PA143&printsec=frontcover
> Adlard Welby's list of children includes a son Alfred, born Jan. 1820, "at Philadelphia U.S.Am[erica]."
>
> Is the below a match?
>
> Alfred Welby, 1820 - 1903
> Alfred Welby was born on month day 1820, at birth place , Pennsylvania.
> Alfred married Susan Welby on month day 1843, at age 23 at marriage place .
> They had 9 children: Bertha Welby , Susan Lydia Welby and 7 other children .
> ...
> Alfred passed away on month day 1903, at age 83 at death place .
>
> The names Susan Lydia and Bertha are suggestive.

Clarification. Alfred was "at Philadelphia U.S.Am[erica]" when the list was written, though born in Rauceby.

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:08:38 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > > > > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > > > > website:
> > > > > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > > > > and also the pedigree here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > > > > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > > > > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > > > > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> > > > >
> > > > > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > > > > in Islington, London:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> > > > >
> > > > > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > > > > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> > > > >
> > > > > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > > > > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> > > > >
> > > > > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> > > > >
> > > > > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > > > > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > > > > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> > > > >
> > > > > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > > > > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> > > > >
> > > > > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Their ancestor here:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > > > > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > > > > both descendants of Henry II:
> > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > > > > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> > > > >
> > > > > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> > > > >
> > > > > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> > > > Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...
> > > Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover
> > Adlard made a trip to Illinois and Pennsylvania sometime prior to 1821, so in addition to his 19 English children, one suspects there could be a few American by-blows.
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Welby_s_Visit_to_North_America/Aw70-9qf0HAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=welby+rawsby&pg=PA143&printsec=frontcover
> Adlard Welby's list of children includes a son Alfred, born Jan. 1820, "at Philadelphia U.S.Am[erica]."
>
> Is the below a match?
>
> Alfred Welby, 1820 - 1903
> Alfred Welby was born on month day 1820, at birth place , Pennsylvania.
> Alfred married Susan Welby on month day 1843, at age 23 at marriage place .
> They had 9 children: Bertha Welby , Susan Lydia Welby and 7 other children .
> ...
> Alfred passed away on month day 1903, at age 83 at death place .
>
> The names Susan Lydia and Bertha are suggestive.

Alfred Welby ended up in Australia. See page 105, part 1:
file:///C:/Users/HHSSO08VEWH/Downloads/BoettcherPhD.pdf

Leslie

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 5:14:16 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:08:38 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 10:13:45 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 1:16:57 AM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > > > The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> > > > > > obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> > > > > > website:
> > > > > > https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> > > > > > and also the pedigree here:
> > > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> > > > > > the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> > > > > > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> > > > > > are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> > > > > > in Islington, London:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> > > > > > 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> > > > > > Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> > > > > > Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> > > > > > https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> > > > > > https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> > > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> > > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their ancestor here:
> > > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> > > > > > was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> > > > > > https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> > > > > > both descendants of Henry II:
> > > > > > https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> > > > > > https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4
> > > > > Probably the most famous current member of this family is Rosie, a supermodel, who is the girlfriend of Jason Statham.
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting about the illegitimate connection to the Welby family...
> > > > Adlard Welby's mother was Elizabeth (Twyford) Welby, his father's second wife, not Elizabeth (Caesar) Welby, the first wife. At least according to ...
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/God_s_Architect/gNs0hNxtL4QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=elizabeth+cesar+welby&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover
> > > Adlard made a trip to Illinois and Pennsylvania sometime prior to 1821, so in addition to his 19 English children, one suspects there could be a few American by-blows.
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Welby_s_Visit_to_North_America/Aw70-9qf0HAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=welby+rawsby&pg=PA143&printsec=frontcover
> > Adlard Welby's list of children includes a son Alfred, born Jan. 1820, "at Philadelphia U.S.Am[erica]."
> >
> > Is the below a match?
> >
> > Alfred Welby, 1820 - 1903
> > Alfred Welby was born on month day 1820, at birth place , Pennsylvania.
> > Alfred married Susan Welby on month day 1843, at age 23 at marriage place .
> > They had 9 children: Bertha Welby , Susan Lydia Welby and 7 other children .
> > ...
> > Alfred passed away on month day 1903, at age 83 at death place .
> >
> > The names Susan Lydia and Bertha are suggestive.
> Alfred Welby ended up in Australia. See page 105, part 1:
> file:///C:/Users/HHSSO08VEWH/Downloads/BoettcherPhD.pdf
>
> Leslie

Oh, okay, I didn't see that further note.

On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:16:57 PM UTC-7, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> The ancestry of the Huntington-Whiteley Baronets, as recorded by Burke, does not show any
> obvious connection to established gentry families. See for example, the entries at The Peerage
> website:
> https://www.thepeerage.com/p50971.htm#i509702
> and also the pedigree here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00179932&tree=LEO
>
> Information collected on Wikitree identifies the 1st Baronet's wife Florence Huntington as
> the daughter of Emily Louisa King, whose mother was Bertha Welby:
> https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huntington-Whitley-1
>
> Many of the census returns and civil registration records cited there
> are available on Ancestry.com, but not on Family Search.
>
> Florence's parents William Balle Huntington & Emily Louisa King were married in 1869,
> in Islington, London:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D2M-7QV
>
> Florence's grandfather George Seymour King was married to Bertha Welby,
> 5 Sept. 1842 in Florence, Italy:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:CXML-WTMM
>
> George Seymour King and his family were recorded in the 1851 Census:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXX-DRW
> Bertha's birthplace is wrongly transcribed as "Randley" - the correct place name is Rauceby.
>
> She was baptized at Rauceby 10 Dec. 1822 as Bertha, daughter of Mary Hutchinson:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JWCJ-WSW
>
> Bertha's mother was Mary Hutchinson, mistress of Adlard Welby.
> Bertha was named as daughter Bertha King in the will of Adlard Welby, esquire, proved 15 May 1861:
> https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
>
> Adlard lived from 1776-1871. Details of his 19 children are given here, on page 105 of volume 1:
> https://leicester.figshare.com/articles/thesis/An_edition_of_the_journals_of_Adlard_Welby/10137968/1
>
> The ancestry of Adlard Welby is outlined here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00240036&tree=LEO
>
> With a fuller treatment in Lincolnshire Pedigrees, volume 4:
> https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi04madd/page/1505/mode/2up
>
>
> Their ancestor here:
> https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00268932&tree=LEO
> was actually John Williams married to Selina Worsley, as recorded here:
> https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirepedi03madd/page/682/mode/2up
>
> Selina was a daughter of this Richard Worsley & Mary Harington, who were
> both descendants of Henry II:
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00670944&tree=LEO
>
> Richard's will only names one of his children, but he states that they were all by his wife Mary:
> https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D943174
>
> Selina was bapt. at Maxey, Northamptonshire, 2 Aug. 1588:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSTQ-95K
>
> and married there 29 Nov. 1607:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK7J-2V4

Bertha (Welby) King is recorded in the 1871 Census at Islington, Middlesex,
with her children, and also her son-in-law William B. Huntington:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB62-2DQ

Leslie