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* Re: Leszek A.Kleczkowski pisze prawde /co najmniej TYM razem!:)/Eksuperancjusz Dociekliwy
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Re: Leszek A.Kleczkowski pisze prawde /co najmniej TYM razem!:)/

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Subject: Re: Leszek A.Kleczkowski pisze prawde /co najmniej TYM razem!:)/
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 by: Eksuperancjusz Docie - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 18:29 UTC

Piotr Trela napisał(a):
> RU8xx (ru...@aol.com) wrote:
> : Pozdrawiam bardzo serdecznie, Panie Piotrze.
> Nawzajem
> : A propos potegi pozytywnego myslenia: zanosi sie na to, ze bedziemy mieli w
> : USA prezydenta, od stycznia 2001, ktory zatwierdzil wiecej kar smierci jako
> : gubernator Teksasu, niz jakikolwiek kandydat na to stanowisko w drugiej polowie
> : XX wieku...!:)
> Bush na talk-show (Oprah) zostal zapytany czy stoi za wszystkimi
> wykonanymi egzekucjami - powiedzial "tak" - ze ze spokojnym sumieniem jest
> przekonany, ze w _kazdym_ wyroku, ktory on zatwierdzil, system sprawdzil
> sie - wykazal wine "beyond the reasonable doubt" i dal kazdemu
> oskarzonemu pelna mozliwosc obrony.
> Pare dni na tym samym programie podano przyklad jednego z tych wyrokow
> co do ktorych Bush nie mial zadnych watpliwosci - facet zostal skazany
> bez zadnego DNA, bez przyznania sie, na podstawie rozpoznania przez
> _jednego_ swiadka. Wprawdzie bylo tez 5 innych swiadkow, ktorzy w
> sledztwie twierdzili, ze to nie byl on, ale jury ich nigdy nie uslyszalo -
> adwokat z urzedu nie wezwal ich na swiadkow w czasie rozprawy. Gdy do
> apelacji oskarzony dostal w koncu kompetentnego adwokata i tenze adwokat
> wniosl o przesluchanie tych swiadkow - wnioske odrzucono motywujac, ze
> "za pozno, jego wczesniejszy adwokat powinien byl ich zglosic".
> George W. Bush uznal, ze system zadzialal, wyrok zatwierdzil. Wyrok
> wykonano. Gubernator Bush nie ma sobie nic do zarzucenia i spi snem
> sprawiedliwego.
> Z innych przykladow jak wyglada standard "beyond the reasonable doubt"
> w przypadkach kary smierci ilustrowali 3 goscie Oprah, ktorym sie
> udalo:
> ***1. Kirk Bloodsworth, an ex-Marine with no criminal history, was
> arrested for the brutal rape and murder of a 9 year-old girl. The
> nightmare began after one of his neighbors thought Kirk looked like the
> man in the composite sketch he had seen on TV. The man described was
> over 6 feet tall, thin and blond. Kirk didn't come close to that
> description. He believes prosecutors were so determined to solve the
> case that they refused to listen to the truth. In 1985, Kirk
> listened in horror as he was sentenced to death.
> Kirk spent the next 2 years on death row in a prison cell below the gas
> chamber. [...] Reading became Kirk's only comfort - it proved to be the
> key to his release. Reading a crime story, he learned about
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> DNA testing and demanded to be tested.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The DNA test proved he could not have committed the murder.
> [ Widac jego adwokat sam na to nie wpadl, ze mozna sprawdziec DNA - moze
> czytal w czasie rozprawy nie te kryminaly ?
> [...] Currently, only Illinois and New York give death row inmates the
> right to DNA testing.
>
> ***2. After receiving an anonymous tip [about the murder of a white
> couple] the police arrested four young black men, including Dennis
> Williams. Prosecution charged the four men with murder, even though they
> had no real physical evidence.
> Although Dennis maintained his innocence, he was tried and convicted,
> and sentenced to death by an all-white jury. In jail, his cell was only
> yards away from the execution chamber, a constant reminder of his
> sentence. Dennis got a new lawyer and a second trial, but in
> 1987 he was again sentenced to death.
> He lost all faith in the legal system, but he refused to stop fighting
> for his freedom.
> Across town at Northwestern University, journalism professor David
> Protess gave his students an assignment — to find the truth. According to
> Protess, "The case involving Dennis Williams was the worst miscarriage of
> justice in Illinois history. You had police misconduct, you had
> prosecutors more interested in securing convictions than finding the
> truth, you had defense ineptitude."
> A mere month into their investigation, Protess' students uncovered the
> key piece of evidence that defense attorneys had overlooked. At the
> bottom of a box, they found a street file showing that within a week of
> the crime the police knew who the real killers were, but they buried that
> information.
> A DNA test exonerated Dennis and the other men, and after 18 years on
> death row, they were finally free. For Dennis, justice came belatedly —
> his original lawyer was disbarred, an inmate who was an informant
> admitted he lied, and the real killers confessed on tape to the
> journalism students. Even today, Dennis still doesn't feel completely
> free. He never leaves the house without calling someone, so that he has
> an alibi. It continues to amaze him that "a journalism professor got more
> justice in this case than anybody in law enforcement ever had the courage
> to get."
>
> ***3. Gary Gauger was living on his parents' farm, working part-time in
> his father's motorcycle shop. One day in April, he was helping a customer
> when he found his father in the back room of the shop, lying in a pool of
> blood. Gary thought his father was having a heart attack or stroke, so he
> called the paramedics. When they arrived on the scene, the police found
> Gary's mother' body in a nearby trailer. Gary immediately became a
> suspect in a double homicide.
> After 18 hours of interrogation, Gary was exhausted and emotionally
> distraught. His parents had been murdered, and he was in shock. He asked
> the officers if it was possible that he could have committed the murders
> in a blackout and not remembered it. The police considered Gary's
> question a confession, even though it was never signed or recorded on
> tape. After a two-week trial, Gary was sentenced to die.
> The real killers were found a year later, when a federal investigation of
> a motorcycle club turned up evidence in the murders of Gary's parents.
> **************
> Pozdrowienia
>
> :
> : Pawel Jedrzejewski RU...@aol.com
> Piotr Trela

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Subject: Re: Leszek A.Kleczkowski pisze prawde /co najmniej TYM razem!:)/
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 by: Piotr - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 21:58 UTC

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 2:59:45 PM UTC-3:30, Eksuperancjusz Dociekliwy wrote:
> Piotr Trela napisał(a):
> > RU8xx (ru...@aol.com) wrote:
> > : Pozdrawiam bardzo serdecznie, Panie Piotrze.
> > Nawzajem
> > : A propos potegi pozytywnego myslenia: zanosi sie na to, ze bedziemy mieli w
> > : USA prezydenta, od stycznia 2001, ktory zatwierdzil wiecej kar smierci jako
> > : gubernator Teksasu, niz jakikolwiek kandydat na to stanowisko w drugiej polowie
> > : XX wieku...!:)
> > Bush na talk-show (Oprah) zostal zapytany czy stoi za wszystkimi
> > wykonanymi egzekucjami - powiedzial "tak" - ze ze spokojnym sumieniem jest
> > przekonany, ze w _kazdym_ wyroku, ktory on zatwierdzil, system sprawdzil
> > sie - wykazal wine "beyond the reasonable doubt" i dal kazdemu
> > oskarzonemu pelna mozliwosc obrony.
> > Pare dni na tym samym programie podano przyklad jednego z tych wyrokow
> > co do ktorych Bush nie mial zadnych watpliwosci - facet zostal skazany
> > bez zadnego DNA, bez przyznania sie, na podstawie rozpoznania przez
> > _jednego_ swiadka. Wprawdzie bylo tez 5 innych swiadkow, ktorzy w
> > sledztwie twierdzili, ze to nie byl on, ale jury ich nigdy nie uslyszalo -
> > adwokat z urzedu nie wezwal ich na swiadkow w czasie rozprawy. Gdy do
> > apelacji oskarzony dostal w koncu kompetentnego adwokata i tenze adwokat
> > wniosl o przesluchanie tych swiadkow - wnioske odrzucono motywujac, ze
> > "za pozno, jego wczesniejszy adwokat powinien byl ich zglosic".
> > George W. Bush uznal, ze system zadzialal, wyrok zatwierdzil. Wyrok
> > wykonano. Gubernator Bush nie ma sobie nic do zarzucenia i spi snem
> > sprawiedliwego.
> > Z innych przykladow jak wyglada standard "beyond the reasonable doubt"
> > w przypadkach kary smierci ilustrowali 3 goscie Oprah, ktorym sie
> > udalo:
> > ***1. Kirk Bloodsworth, an ex-Marine with no criminal history, was
> > arrested for the brutal rape and murder of a 9 year-old girl. The
> > nightmare began after one of his neighbors thought Kirk looked like the
> > man in the composite sketch he had seen on TV. The man described was
> > over 6 feet tall, thin and blond. Kirk didn't come close to that
> > description. He believes prosecutors were so determined to solve the
> > case that they refused to listen to the truth. In 1985, Kirk
> > listened in horror as he was sentenced to death.
> > Kirk spent the next 2 years on death row in a prison cell below the gas
> > chamber. [...] Reading became Kirk's only comfort - it proved to be the
> > key to his release. Reading a crime story, he learned about
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > DNA testing and demanded to be tested.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > The DNA test proved he could not have committed the murder.
> > [ Widac jego adwokat sam na to nie wpadl, ze mozna sprawdziec DNA - moze
> > czytal w czasie rozprawy nie te kryminaly ?
> > [...] Currently, only Illinois and New York give death row inmates the
> > right to DNA testing.
> >
> > ***2. After receiving an anonymous tip [about the murder of a white
> > couple] the police arrested four young black men, including Dennis
> > Williams. Prosecution charged the four men with murder, even though they
> > had no real physical evidence.
> > Although Dennis maintained his innocence, he was tried and convicted,
> > and sentenced to death by an all-white jury. In jail, his cell was only
> > yards away from the execution chamber, a constant reminder of his
> > sentence. Dennis got a new lawyer and a second trial, but in
> > 1987 he was again sentenced to death.
> > He lost all faith in the legal system, but he refused to stop fighting
> > for his freedom.
> > Across town at Northwestern University, journalism professor David
> > Protess gave his students an assignment — to find the truth. According to
> > Protess, "The case involving Dennis Williams was the worst miscarriage of
> > justice in Illinois history. You had police misconduct, you had
> > prosecutors more interested in securing convictions than finding the
> > truth, you had defense ineptitude."
> > A mere month into their investigation, Protess' students uncovered the
> > key piece of evidence that defense attorneys had overlooked. At the
> > bottom of a box, they found a street file showing that within a week of
> > the crime the police knew who the real killers were, but they buried that
> > information.
> > A DNA test exonerated Dennis and the other men, and after 18 years on
> > death row, they were finally free. For Dennis, justice came belatedly —
> > his original lawyer was disbarred, an inmate who was an informant
> > admitted he lied, and the real killers confessed on tape to the
> > journalism students. Even today, Dennis still doesn't feel completely
> > free. He never leaves the house without calling someone, so that he has
> > an alibi. It continues to amaze him that "a journalism professor got more
> > justice in this case than anybody in law enforcement ever had the courage
> > to get."
> >
> > ***3. Gary Gauger was living on his parents' farm, working part-time in
> > his father's motorcycle shop. One day in April, he was helping a customer
> > when he found his father in the back room of the shop, lying in a pool of
> > blood. Gary thought his father was having a heart attack or stroke, so he
> > called the paramedics. When they arrived on the scene, the police found
> > Gary's mother' body in a nearby trailer. Gary immediately became a
> > suspect in a double homicide.
> > After 18 hours of interrogation, Gary was exhausted and emotionally
> > distraught. His parents had been murdered, and he was in shock. He asked
> > the officers if it was possible that he could have committed the murders
> > in a blackout and not remembered it. The police considered Gary's
> > question a confession, even though it was never signed or recorded on
> > tape. After a two-week trial, Gary was sentenced to die.
> > The real killers were found a year later, when a federal investigation of
> > a motorcycle club turned up evidence in the murders of Gary's parents.
> > **************
> > Pozdrowienia
> >
> > :
> > : Pawel Jedrzejewski RU...@aol.com
> > Piotr Trela

> Czyli usańce mieli wiedzę na jakiego głupka głosują. Z mordy wieśniak i na urzędzie wieśniak. Dzięki takim wieśniakom usa stały się mocarstwem schodzącym.

Glosowac na glupkow to moge pan Andrzej "Mam Podziw dla Trumpa "Strak i moze wspomniany powyzej Pawel Jedrzejewski
(obecnie udziela sie jako prawacki felietonista w Polsce)

Tytulowy Leszek A.Kleczkowski to tylko cheerleaderka ze Szwecji:

"Buuuuuuuush jr.!"
- " W pracy tyle roboty, a ja swietuje :-)"
-"Warto bylo dozyc tej chwili wielkiej"
- "Wam tez sie Bush jr. do d*py zabierze, prosze drzwi na wszystkie zamki zamykac."
- "Panie Piotrze, to tylko dla Pana surprise! Bush trzyma sie PRYNCYPIOW."
- "na kolana przed Dubya i o wybaczenie prosic!"

O opozycji do polityki zagranicznej Busha:
"Ten antybushowski halas, ktory slysze i w przekaziorach i na Usenecie jako zywo przypomina mi
slynne "No Nukes" demonstracje i antyreaganizm pro-sowieckiej lewicy w latach 1980-tych."
Leszek Andrzej Kleczkowski

W obronie planow bliskowschodnich Busha "to lead a liberating CRUSADE in the Middle East":
" Bush winien odpowiedziec tym lingwistom, by go w d#pe pocalowali. Czy "crusade" jest teraz
slowem zastrzezonym"
Leszek Andrzej Kleczkowski

=Piotr

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