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Subject: Re: Bowerman, Rookley, Garston & Glamorgan (Isle of Wight)
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 by: Roderick Ward - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:30 UTC

On Wednesday, August 2, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Stewart, Peter wrote:
> Can anyone add to or correct the following, taken from VCH Hampshire?
> 1 Nicholas Bowerman, of Brook, Isle of Wight, ob 1559
> 2 Thomas Bowerman, of Brook
> 3 not stated
> 4 Sir Thomas Bowerman, fl 1499
> 5 Joan Rookley, of Brook, ob 1503
> 10 John Rookley (Roucle), of Brook, fl 1431
> 11 Joan Garston
> 20 Geoffrey Roucle, 'de la Broke'
> 21 Isabel de Glamorgan
> 22 John Garston
> 23 not stated
> 42 John de Glamorgan, of Wolverton, IoW
> 43 not stated
> 4 & 5 entertained Henry VII at Brook. They no doubt have many descendants
> today through 1 and his sister(s)/cousins
> Peter Stewart

I realize this post was from 22 years ago, but just in case a response is still of interest…

The VCH writer does not seem to have had access to the collection of documents related to the manor of Brook now in the Isle of Wight Record Office and with National Archives reference numbers starting with AC95/32, which were “in the hands of the great-grand-daughter of the last male descendant of the Bowreman family - Rev Thomas Bowreman (buried at Brook in 1844)” before being sold. I think these documents contain information which provide additions to, and force revisions of, the pedigree above.

3: She was named Eleanor [AC95/32.88].

10. John’s second marriage was to Margaret/Margery, the widow of Henry Hawles [OG/C/53]. John died about 1452. [C 1/19/168] [AC/95/32.73] [AC95/32.75]

20. This can’t be right. In Geoffrey’s 1390 ipm Geoffrey’s son John is aged 40 and upwards, which would make [10] at least 102 when he died. [10]’s mother was recorded in 1417 as Joan Patrich, widow, sister of Thomas Glamorgan. [AC95/32.56]

[20] was presumably [10]’s grandfather rather than father, but I think the VCH is wrong in positing Isabel Glamorgan as Geoffrey’s wife. Isabel Glamorgan married, after the death of her first husband Godfrey de Hunstan, William Thorp [JER/SEL/1/1] [AC95/32.33]. In a 1362 lease, she is “Isabella, late wife of William Thorp”, and it is endorsed “Indenture of Isabella Thorpe of Upper Broke”. Geoffrey’s son John was born well before this. Geoffrey married his second wife, Isabel Botiller, after 1357. I don’t know who his first wife was.

Links:
AC95/32.88
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7196a9ce-d3aa-4f8d-a95c-cad193375b28
OG/C/53
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a31f1ef5-e628-41be-bed8-e86540eb37a3
C 1/19/168
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7440650
AC/95/32.73
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/09105ab8-5ba4-498a-af99-5d709f46c71e
AC/95/32.75
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/850f0e19-2963-48c8-bcdd-80478d7eee77
Geoffey’s ipm (scroll down)
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol16/pp366-377
AC95/32.56
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/07331b57-7c3f-4ea8-bdb5-820afc6a2d36
JER/SEL/1/1
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/6a528ab3-9f08-4798-9daf-14a09aac61c5
AC/95/32.33
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/58762b24-d0bb-4097-8fd0-2444231ced5a

Roderick Ward

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