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by: robert.the...@gmail. - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 13:40 UTC

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:03:38 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> On Friday, 11 January 2019 11:03:44 UTC+1, Wibs wrote:
> > On Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:21:51 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:30:24 UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:32:54 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Futher link to info on William fitz Peter Goodmanham founder of Ellerton priory.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://books.google.ca/books?id=VRfxelohUfoC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=anketin+Ellerton&source=bl&ots=9yIcTU3zeH&sig=eDJO4xQNRauNofvYiW9fKWjCLfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDqLec06nfAhXoT98KHY_XDmUQ6AEwBXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=anketin%20Ellerton&f=false
> > > > >
> > > > > Early Yorkshire Families
> > > > > edited by Charles Clay, Diana E. Greenway
> > > > >
> > > > > RB
> > > >
> > > > I hope there is further useful info on my One-Place site for Ellerton Priory:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ellerton.info/history/ellerton-priory.html
> > > >
> > > > Wibs
> > >
> > > Thank you Wibs, your link produced:
> > >
> > > William, fil. Petri, for the good of the souls of Peter and Christian, his father and mother, and of Alice, his wife; gave twelve acres of land in this territory M.a.v.2, p.822, et v.3 p. 825
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nicholas de Middleton confirmed the grant of one oxgang of land in Beverley to the monastery of Ellerton in Spaldingmere with a toft, and Alexander the carpenter, with all his family and their cattle, as his brother Richard de Middleton had held the same, which was confirmed by Fulco Basset provost of Beverley about the year 1229 These premises were again confirmed to the same monastery in 1253 by sir William Ross. Mon.Ebor, page 261
> > >
> > > The mention of Fulco Basset who was active in 1241, as provost of Berverly is interesting, when I searched leavening, next to Arnold, Yorkshire, I found Fulco gifts land that were held by his ancestors. I suspect these are Basset Anscestors. Robert,son of Osmund is Robert Basset- temp. 1150-60, who held land in Arnold of the Ros fee. A later Robert Basset in 1264 was Constable of Helmsley (Hamlake) Castle, Yorkshire, under the Ros family.
> > >
> > > In addition in another source which seems to confirm the pedigree of interest: William fitz Anschetil, " Son of Ansquetil fitz Humphrey, with whom he occurs in a grant of 60 acres of Presthow to Warter Abbey". see EYC
> > > X: 80.
> > >
> > >
> > > RB
> >
> > Another resource RB. Have you seen the revised notes on the Hays of Aughton, together with their tree which includes William, son of Anketin, in the Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, published in 2015?
> >
> > Wibs
> I am surprised that no-one has replied to this post, given that Carpenter (Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, pp. 677-685)has completely undone the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton.
>
> Wibs

Message to Wibs: Can you please supply the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton or a working link to the info. I'm very interested.

Robert

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by: Wibs - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 10:17 UTC

On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 14:40:40 UTC+1, robert.the...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:03:38 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > On Friday, 11 January 2019 11:03:44 UTC+1, Wibs wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:21:51 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:30:24 UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:32:54 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Futher link to info on William fitz Peter Goodmanham founder of Ellerton priory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://books.google.ca/books?id=VRfxelohUfoC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=anketin+Ellerton&source=bl&ots=9yIcTU3zeH&sig=eDJO4xQNRauNofvYiW9fKWjCLfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDqLec06nfAhXoT98KHY_XDmUQ6AEwBXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=anketin%20Ellerton&f=false
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Early Yorkshire Families
> > > > > > edited by Charles Clay, Diana E. Greenway
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RB
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope there is further useful info on my One-Place site for Ellerton Priory:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ellerton.info/history/ellerton-priory.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Wibs
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Wibs, your link produced:
> > > >
> > > > William, fil. Petri, for the good of the souls of Peter and Christian, his father and mother, and of Alice, his wife; gave twelve acres of land in this territory M.a.v.2, p.822, et v.3 p. 825
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas de Middleton confirmed the grant of one oxgang of land in Beverley to the monastery of Ellerton in Spaldingmere with a toft, and Alexander the carpenter, with all his family and their cattle, as his brother Richard de Middleton had held the same, which was confirmed by Fulco Basset provost of Beverley about the year 1229 These premises were again confirmed to the same monastery in 1253 by sir William Ross. Mon.Ebor, page 261
> > > >
> > > > The mention of Fulco Basset who was active in 1241, as provost of Berverly is interesting, when I searched leavening, next to Arnold, Yorkshire, I found Fulco gifts land that were held by his ancestors. I suspect these are Basset Anscestors. Robert,son of Osmund is Robert Basset- temp. 1150-60, who held land in Arnold of the Ros fee. A later Robert Basset in 1264 was Constable of Helmsley (Hamlake) Castle, Yorkshire, under the Ros family.
> > > >
> > > > In addition in another source which seems to confirm the pedigree of interest: William fitz Anschetil, " Son of Ansquetil fitz Humphrey, with whom he occurs in a grant of 60 acres of Presthow to Warter Abbey". see EYC
> > > > X: 80.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RB
> > >
> > > Another resource RB. Have you seen the revised notes on the Hays of Aughton, together with their tree which includes William, son of Anketin, in the Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, published in 2015?
> > >
> > > Wibs
> > I am surprised that no-one has replied to this post, given that Carpenter (Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, pp. 677-685)has completely undone the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton.
> >
> > Wibs
> Message to Wibs: Can you please supply the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton or a working link to the info. I'm very interested.
>
> Robert
If you can provide an email address I can send you what I have.

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by: robert.the...@gmail. - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 00:50 UTC

On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 6:17:29 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 14:40:40 UTC+1, robert.the...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:03:38 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > On Friday, 11 January 2019 11:03:44 UTC+1, Wibs wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:21:51 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:30:24 UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:32:54 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > Futher link to info on William fitz Peter Goodmanham founder of Ellerton priory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://books.google.ca/books?id=VRfxelohUfoC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=anketin+Ellerton&source=bl&ots=9yIcTU3zeH&sig=eDJO4xQNRauNofvYiW9fKWjCLfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDqLec06nfAhXoT98KHY_XDmUQ6AEwBXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=anketin%20Ellerton&f=false
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Early Yorkshire Families
> > > > > > > edited by Charles Clay, Diana E. Greenway
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope there is further useful info on my One-Place site for Ellerton Priory:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ellerton.info/history/ellerton-priory.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wibs
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Wibs, your link produced:
> > > > >
> > > > > William, fil. Petri, for the good of the souls of Peter and Christian, his father and mother, and of Alice, his wife; gave twelve acres of land in this territory M.a.v.2, p.822, et v.3 p. 825
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicholas de Middleton confirmed the grant of one oxgang of land in Beverley to the monastery of Ellerton in Spaldingmere with a toft, and Alexander the carpenter, with all his family and their cattle, as his brother Richard de Middleton had held the same, which was confirmed by Fulco Basset provost of Beverley about the year 1229 These premises were again confirmed to the same monastery in 1253 by sir William Ross. Mon.Ebor, page 261
> > > > >
> > > > > The mention of Fulco Basset who was active in 1241, as provost of Berverly is interesting, when I searched leavening, next to Arnold, Yorkshire, I found Fulco gifts land that were held by his ancestors. I suspect these are Basset Anscestors. Robert,son of Osmund is Robert Basset- temp. 1150-60, who held land in Arnold of the Ros fee. A later Robert Basset in 1264 was Constable of Helmsley (Hamlake) Castle, Yorkshire, under the Ros family.
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition in another source which seems to confirm the pedigree of interest: William fitz Anschetil, " Son of Ansquetil fitz Humphrey, with whom he occurs in a grant of 60 acres of Presthow to Warter Abbey". see EYC
> > > > > X: 80.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > RB
> > > >
> > > > Another resource RB. Have you seen the revised notes on the Hays of Aughton, together with their tree which includes William, son of Anketin, in the Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, published in 2015?
> > > >
> > > > Wibs
> > > I am surprised that no-one has replied to this post, given that Carpenter (Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, pp. 677-685)has completely undone the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton.
> > >
> > > Wibs
> > Message to Wibs: Can you please supply the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton or a working link to the info. I'm very interested.
> >
> > Robert
> If you can provide an email address I can send you what I have.

Sorry Wibs, I just noticed your reply, my email robert(period)thecomputerman@gmail.com
Looking forward to seening this..if you have any info on the Scures who appear in the same index that would be marvelous.
Thanks

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by: Wibs - Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:26 UTC

On Tuesday, 24 January 2023 at 01:50:25 UTC+1, robert.the...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 6:17:29 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 14:40:40 UTC+1, robert.the...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:03:38 AM UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 11 January 2019 11:03:44 UTC+1, Wibs wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:21:51 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:30:24 UTC-4, Wibs wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:32:54 UTC+1, robertb...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > > > > Futher link to info on William fitz Peter Goodmanham founder of Ellerton priory.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://books.google.ca/books?id=VRfxelohUfoC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=anketin+Ellerton&source=bl&ots=9yIcTU3zeH&sig=eDJO4xQNRauNofvYiW9fKWjCLfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDqLec06nfAhXoT98KHY_XDmUQ6AEwBXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=anketin%20Ellerton&f=false
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Early Yorkshire Families
> > > > > > > > edited by Charles Clay, Diana E. Greenway
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope there is further useful info on my One-Place site for Ellerton Priory:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.ellerton.info/history/ellerton-priory.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wibs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Wibs, your link produced:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William, fil. Petri, for the good of the souls of Peter and Christian, his father and mother, and of Alice, his wife; gave twelve acres of land in this territory M.a.v.2, p.822, et v.3 p. 825
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> > > > > > Nicholas de Middleton confirmed the grant of one oxgang of land in Beverley to the monastery of Ellerton in Spaldingmere with a toft, and Alexander the carpenter, with all his family and their cattle, as his brother Richard de Middleton had held the same, which was confirmed by Fulco Basset provost of Beverley about the year 1229 These premises were again confirmed to the same monastery in 1253 by sir William Ross. Mon.Ebor, page 261
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> > > > > > The mention of Fulco Basset who was active in 1241, as provost of Berverly is interesting, when I searched leavening, next to Arnold, Yorkshire, I found Fulco gifts land that were held by his ancestors. I suspect these are Basset Anscestors. Robert,son of Osmund is Robert Basset- temp. 1150-60, who held land in Arnold of the Ros fee. A later Robert Basset in 1264 was Constable of Helmsley (Hamlake) Castle, Yorkshire, under the Ros family.
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> > > > > > In addition in another source which seems to confirm the pedigree of interest: William fitz Anschetil, " Son of Ansquetil fitz Humphrey, with whom he occurs in a grant of 60 acres of Presthow to Warter Abbey". see EYC
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> > > > > Another resource RB. Have you seen the revised notes on the Hays of Aughton, together with their tree which includes William, son of Anketin, in the Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, published in 2015?
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> > > > > Wibs
> > > > I am surprised that no-one has replied to this post, given that Carpenter (Cartulary of St Leonard's Hospital, York, pp. 677-685)has completely undone the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton.
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> > > > Wibs
> > > Message to Wibs: Can you please supply the early pedigree of the Hays of Aughton or a working link to the info. I'm very interested.
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> > > Robert
> > If you can provide an email address I can send you what I have.
> Sorry Wibs, I just noticed your reply, my email robert(period)thecomputerman@gmail.com
> Looking forward to seening this..if you have any info on the Scures who appear in the same index that would be marvelous.
> Thanks
All sent

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Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington	robert.the...@gmail.com
Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington	Wibs
Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington	robert.the...@gmail.com
Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington	Wibs