още руска пропаганда за обсебения:

Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make Weapons
and Create a Private Army in Ukraine

By Simon Shuster/Kyiv July 7, 2021 3:12 PM EDT

As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second floor,
Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President, remembers
feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about Blackwater, the
private military company Prince had founded in 1997, and he knew about the
massacre its troops had perpetrated during the U.S. war in Iraq. Coming
face to face that night with the world’s most prominent soldier of
fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does this guy want from us?”

It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According to
interviews with close associates and confidential documents detailing his
ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans into a private
military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of Ukraine’s military-
industrial complex, including factories that make engines for fighter jets
and helicopters. His full plan, dated June 2020 and obtained exclusively
by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap” for the creation of a
“vertically integrated aviation defense consortium” that could bring $10
billion in revenues and investment.

…

This account of Prince’s ambitions in Ukraine is based on interviews with
seven sources, including current and former U.S. and Ukrainian officials
as well as people who worked directly with Prince to try to realize his
aspirations in Ukraine. Those business plans, which have not been
previously reported, were confirmed by four of the sources on both sides
of the negotiations, all of whom recalled meeting in person with Prince
last year to discuss them. The documents describe a series of ventures
that would give Prince a pivotal role in Ukraine’s military industry and
its ongoing conflict with Russia, _which has taken more than 14,000 lives_
_since it began seven years ago_.

…

At least one of Prince’s offers to Ukraine appeared to be in line with
U.S. geopolitical interests. As the Wall Street Journal first reported in
Nov. 2019, Prince has been competing against a Chinese firm to buy a
Ukrainian factory called Motor Sich, which produces advanced aircraft
engines. China sought those engines to develop its air force. The U.S.,
concerned about the rapid growth of the Chinese military, has long urged
Ukraine not to complete the sale. Prince emerged as the American
alternative, offering to save the factory from China’s clutches.

…

https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/

останалото оставям на обсебения да прочете сам. интересното в публикацията
не е толкова действията на американеца, колкото описанието на обстановката
в украйна по онова време.

нямам идея какъв е авторът на публикацията, дали е руски агент за влияние
или е обикновен полезен идиот, както и нямам представа за наукометричните
му показатели.

оставям на ивайло да ни осветли по тези въпроси, понеже знам, че те живо
го интересуват.

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On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:
> още руска пропаганда за обсебения:
>
> Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make Weapons
> and Create a Private Army in Ukraine
>
> By Simon Shuster/Kyiv July 7, 2021 3:12 PM EDT
>
> As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second floor,
> Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President, remembers
> feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about Blackwater, the
> private military company Prince had founded in 1997, and he knew about the
> massacre its troops had perpetrated during the U.S. war in Iraq. Coming
> face to face that night with the world’s most prominent soldier of
> fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does this guy want from us?”
>
> It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According to
> interviews with close associates and confidential documents detailing his
> ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans into a private
> military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of Ukraine’s military-
> industrial complex, including factories that make engines for fighter jets
> and helicopters. His full plan, dated June 2020 and obtained exclusively
> by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap” for the creation of a
> “vertically integrated aviation defense consortium” that could bring $10
> billion in revenues and investment.
Много планове, малко пари.
>
> …
>
> This account of Prince’s ambitions in Ukraine is based on interviews with
> seven sources, including current and former U.S. and Ukrainian officials
> as well as people who worked directly with Prince to try to realize his
> aspirations in Ukraine. Those business plans, which have not been
> previously reported, were confirmed by four of the sources on both sides
> of the negotiations, all of whom recalled meeting in person with Prince
> last year to discuss them. The documents describe a series of ventures
> that would give Prince a pivotal role in Ukraine’s military industry and
> its ongoing conflict with Russia, _which has taken more than 14,000 lives_
> _since it began seven years ago_.
>
> …
>
> At least one of Prince’s offers to Ukraine appeared to be in line with
> U.S. geopolitical interests. As the Wall Street Journal first reported in
> Nov. 2019, Prince has been competing against a Chinese firm to buy a
> Ukrainian factory called Motor Sich, which produces advanced aircraft
> engines. China sought those engines to develop its air force. The U.S.,
> concerned about the rapid growth of the Chinese military, has long urged
> Ukraine not to complete the sale. Prince emerged as the American
> alternative, offering to save the factory from China’s clutches.
>
> …
>
> https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/
>
> останалото оставям на обсебения да прочете сам. интересното в публикацията
> не е толкова действията на американеца, колкото описанието на обстановката
> в украйна по онова време.
>
> нямам идея какъв е авторът на публикацията, дали е руски агент за влияние
> или е обикновен полезен идиот
Не виждам причини да мисля, че е едното или другото. Всъщност не разбирам защо изобщо
си пуснал статията. А що се отнася до Саймън Шустър - доколкото мога да преценя е
про-украински американски журналист с еврейски-съветски произход имигрирал в САЩ
година преди мен.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

>> още руска пропаганда за обсебения:

>> Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make
>> Weapons and Create a Private Army in Ukraine

>> By Simon Shuster/Kyiv July 7, 2021 3:12 PM EDT

>> As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second
>> floor, Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President,
>> remembers feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about
>> Blackwater, the private military company Prince had founded in 1997,
>> and he knew about the massacre its troops had perpetrated during the
>> U.S. war in Iraq. Coming face to face that night with the world’s most
>> prominent soldier of fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does
>> this guy want from us?”

>> It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According
>> to interviews with close associates and confidential documents
>> detailing his ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans
>> into a private military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of
>> Ukraine’s military-industrial complex, including factories that make
>> engines for fighter jets and helicopters. His full plan, dated June
>> 2020 and obtained exclusively by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap”
>> for the creation of a “vertically integrated aviation defense
>> consortium” that could bring $10 billion in revenues and investment.

> Много планове, малко пари.

нали знаеш приказката за триците и маймуните?

>> …

>> This account of Prince’s ambitions in Ukraine is based on interviews
>> with seven sources, including current and former U.S. and Ukrainian
>> officials as well as people who worked directly with Prince to try to
>> realize his aspirations in Ukraine. Those business plans, which have
>> not been previously reported, were confirmed by four of the sources on
>> both sides of the negotiations, all of whom recalled meeting in person
>> with Prince last year to discuss them. The documents describe a series
>> of ventures that would give Prince a pivotal role in Ukraine’s military
>> industry and its ongoing conflict with Russia, _which has taken more
>> than 14,000 lives_
>> _since it began seven years ago_.

>> …

>> At least one of Prince’s offers to Ukraine appeared to be in line with
>> U.S. geopolitical interests. As the Wall Street Journal first reported
>> in Nov. 2019, Prince has been competing against a Chinese firm to buy a
>> Ukrainian factory called Motor Sich, which produces advanced aircraft
>> engines. China sought those engines to develop its air force. The U.S.,
>> concerned about the rapid growth of the Chinese military, has long
>> urged Ukraine not to complete the sale. Prince emerged as the American
>> alternative, offering to save the factory from China’s clutches.

>> …

>> https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/

>> останалото оставям на обсебения да прочете сам. интересното в
>> публикацията не е толкова действията на американеца, колкото описанието
>> на обстановката в украйна по онова време.

>> нямам идея какъв е авторът на публикацията, дали е руски агент за
>> влияние или е обикновен полезен идиот

> Не виждам причини да мисля, че е едното или другото. Всъщност не
> разбирам защо изобщо си пуснал статията. А що се отнася до Саймън Шустър
> - доколкото мога да преценя е про-украински американски журналист с
> еврейски-съветски произход имигрирал в САЩ година преди мен.

написал съм ясно защо съм я пуснал.

а на теб причини да мислиш нещо не ти трябват.

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