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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:29 UTC

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

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 by: chorbalan - Fri, 29 Jul 2022 17:40 UTC

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner
>
> Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
> като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни...
Такива неща би трябвало да се наказват чрез разстрел, ама едва ли..

Поне този път theguardian изтъкват че "the Guardian has been unable to
independently verify the authenticity of the footage" което показва че
вече са се може би загрижили за репутацията си, която беше съвсем
подкопана през последните години..

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 by: Nick - Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:09 UTC

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-
russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

> Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
> като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

какво клане в еленовка?

нещо като независим и достоверен източник можеш ли да посочиш за това
видео? защото репутацията на theguardian като такъв е отвъд абсолютната
нула.

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 by: Nick - Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:23 UTC

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 17:40:42 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-
russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

>> Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
>> като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

> Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни... Такива
> неща би трябвало да се наказват чрез разстрел, ама едва ли..

---8<---
Украинските силови ведомства настояват ООН и "Червеният кръст" веднага да
реагират на терористичния акт в Еленовка, в който загинаха 50 души.

След днешния терористичен акт в колонията се изисква от гарантите на
сигурността на военопленниците да изпратят инспекция в Еленовка заедно с
украински представители.

https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/ukrayna-obvini-chvk-vagner-za-
smurtta-na-53-ma-plennici-azov

---8>---

този верно е на някаква твърд дрога, шизофренията яко го гони. не само
него, а и тези около него. а обсебения кълве ли, кълве на гол бастун.

> Поне този път theguardian изтъкват че "the Guardian has been unable to
> independently verify the authenticity of the footage" което показва че
> вече са се може би загрижили за репутацията си, която беше съвсем
> подкопана през последните години..

;)

да не се окаже, че жертвата на видеото е руски военнопленник? че нали
някакъв украинец призоваваше именно към това -- кастрация на руските
военнопленници? и за това the guardian са неспособни да потвърдят
автентичността на записа 8-)

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 23:52 UTC

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:40:46 AM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner
> >
> > Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
> > като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.
> Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни...
"the government in Kyiv said they were taking the allegations of mistreatment “very seriously” and
that there would be an immediate investigation"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war
Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш? Това, което чуваме, е
официални призиви за извършване на военни престъпления:
"Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re
not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jul/30/russia-ukraine-war-outcry-over-attack-killing-ukraine-pows-kyiv-awaits-un-all-clear-for-grain-shipments

> Такива неща би трябвало да се наказват чрез разстрел, ама едва ли..
>
> Поне този път theguardian изтъкват че "the Guardian has been unable to
> independently verify the authenticity of the footage" което показва че
> вече са се може би загрижили за репутацията си, която беше съвсем
> подкопана през последните години..
Но пък ти си 100% сигурен за другото видео, нали?

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 by: chorbalan - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 19:20 UTC

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:40:46 AM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>>
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner
>> >
>> > Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
>> > като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.
>> Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни...
>
> "the government in Kyiv said they were taking the allegations of mistreatment “very seriously” and
> that there would be an immediate investigation"

Казало. Е, и?


> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war
>
> Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?

Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Mon, 1 Aug 2022 05:23 UTC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

...
> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war
> >
> > Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
> Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако изобщо)?

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 by: Nick - Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:18 UTC

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

> ...
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-
investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war

>> > Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
>> Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

> А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако изобщо)?

а дали ще дойдат в идните 3-4 дена?

и стига толкова. взимай си хапчетата и повече не се обаждай по повод
русия.

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:22 UTC

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:18:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
>
> > ...
> >> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-
> investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war
>
> >> > Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
> >> Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.
>
> > А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако изобщо)?
> а дали ще дойдат в идните 3-4 дена?
Както вече казах, едва ли ще ги пуснат.
"So far the Kremlin has refused to give access to the site to the Red Cross and UN"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/03/blast-that-killed-ukraine-pows-was-kremlin-operation-kyiv-claims

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 by: Nick - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:49 UTC

On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 10:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:18:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

>> > ...

>> >> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-
>> investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war

>> >> > Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
>> >> Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

>> > А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако
>> > изобщо)?

>> а дали ще дойдат в идните 3-4 дена?

> Както вече казах, едва ли ще ги пуснат.

> "So far the Kremlin has refused to give access to the site to the Red
> Cross and UN"

> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/03/blast-that-killed-ukraine-
pows-was-kremlin-operation-kyiv-claims

а те дали са отишли?

и какво казват експертите от bellingcat?

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