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by: andal - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:34 UTC

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by: Hreczecha - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:45 UTC

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI

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by: andal - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:32 UTC

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:

> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
>> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI

Thank you!

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by: andal - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:44 UTC

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:32:21 -0000 (UTC), andal wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
>>> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI
>
> Thank you!

ps. Gomułka zabronił grać parsifal

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by: Hreczecha - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 04:30 UTC

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:44:44 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:32:21 -0000 (UTC), andal wrote:
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> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI
> >
> > Thank you!
> ps. Gomułka zabronił grać parsifal
Ciekawe. Czy moglbys mi podac zrodlo tej informacji? Pytam sie dlatego, bo Gomulka do muzyki sie nie wtracal.

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by: andal - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 15:40 UTC

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:30:43 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:

> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:44:44 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:32:21 -0000 (UTC), andal wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
>> >>> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> ps. Gomułka zabronił grać parsifal
> Ciekawe. Czy moglbys mi podac zrodlo tej informacji? Pytam sie dlatego,
> bo Gomulka do muzyki sie nie wtracal.

zrodlem moja malzonka muzycznie utalentowana i w tamtym czasie aktywna,
ja natomiast nieczuly muzycznie wiec takich info nie szukam

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by: Hreczecha - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 00:41 UTC

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:30:43 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:44:44 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 23:32:21 -0000 (UTC), andal wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT), Hreczecha wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-5, andal wrote:
> >> >>> https://tinyurl.com/3pp855k8
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVQoUs8aWI
> >> >
> >> > Thank you!
> >> ps. Gomułka zabronił grać parsifal
> > Ciekawe. Czy moglbys mi podac zrodlo tej informacji? Pytam sie dlatego,
> > bo Gomulka do muzyki sie nie wtracal.
> zrodlem moja malzonka muzycznie utalentowana i w tamtym czasie aktywna,
> ja natomiast nieczuly muzycznie wiec takich info nie szukam

Ja w tamtym czasie bylem w szkole muzycznej. Polska byla rozplotkowana, muzycy nie byli wyjatkami, wiec cos takiego chyba by do mnie doszlo - chociaz nie o wszystkim, co sie dzialo w Warszawie komentowano w Katowicach.
Ale w sumie, ta historia z Parsifalem mnie zaintrygowala. Jak juz wspomnialem, Gomulka nie wtracal sie do muzyki, ale Parsifal mogl byc wyjatkiem z powodu przekazu ktory zawieral. Interpretacje sa rozne. Gomulka mogl to powiazac z niemieckim nacjonalizmem. Ale z drugiej strony, mogl mu zagrac na nerwach przekaz religijny, bo w ostatecznosci, tematem Parsifala jest odkupienie. Pacyfizm tez Gomulce nie odpowiadal.
Jest jeszcze jeden czynnik: Inscenizacja Parsifala jest droga, wiec Gomulka mogl dosc do wniosku, ze takie wydatki na manifestacje niemieckiej kultury nie sa klasie robotniczje potrzebne.
Stad moje pytanie: Skad twoja zona o tym wiedziala? I dlaczego Gomulka sprzeciwial sie inscenizacji Parsifala?

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