With the recent Netflix and the book, 'Spare' concerning Prince Harry, it raised a question of Constitutional Law in my mind.

Currently, Charles III is king, and Prince William is his heir, then Prince William's son, Prince George is next in line.

However, if Prince William died for any reason (God forbid), would Prince George then take his place as heir, or would Prince Harry take that place, as the eldest (surviving) son of the monarch?

Wibs

On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-5, Wibs wrote:
> With the recent Netflix and the book, 'Spare' concerning Prince Harry, it raised a question of Constitutional Law in my mind.
>
> Currently, Charles III is king, and Prince William is his heir, then Prince William's son, Prince George is next in line.
>
> However, if Prince William died for any reason (God forbid), would Prince George then take his place as heir, or would Prince Harry take that place, as the eldest (surviving) son of the monarch?
>
> Wibs

George
Charlotte
Louis
Henry/ Harry
Archibald
Lillibet
Andrew
Beatrice
Eugenie
Edward
James
Louise
Anne
Peter
Zarra

On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:24:48 PM UTC-5, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-5, Wibs wrote:
> > With the recent Netflix and the book, 'Spare' concerning Prince Harry, it raised a question of Constitutional Law in my mind.
> >
> > Currently, Charles III is king, and Prince William is his heir, then Prince William's son, Prince George is next in line.
> >
> > However, if Prince William died for any reason (God forbid), would Prince George then take his place as heir, or would Prince Harry take that place, as the eldest (surviving) son of the monarch?
> >
> > Wibs
> George
> Charlotte
> Louis
> Henry/ Harry
> Archibald
> Lillibet
> Andrew
> Beatrice
> Eugenie
> Edward
> James
> Louise
> Anne
> Peter
> Zarra

Close, but not correct. Following Beatrice is Sienna Elizabeth, and following Eugenie is August. Following Peter is Savannah, and then Isla Elizabeth.
Following Zara is Mia, then Lena and then Lucas. And finally we pass from Her late Majesty's descendants to David Earl of Snowden

Chuck

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:19:35 PM UTC-5, charles...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:24:48 PM UTC-5, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-5, Wibs wrote:
> > > With the recent Netflix and the book, 'Spare' concerning Prince Harry, it raised a question of Constitutional Law in my mind.
> > >
> > > Currently, Charles III is king, and Prince William is his heir, then Prince William's son, Prince George is next in line.
> > >
> > > However, if Prince William died for any reason (God forbid), would Prince George then take his place as heir, or would Prince Harry take that place, as the eldest (surviving) son of the monarch?
> > >
> > > Wibs
> > George
> > Charlotte
> > Louis
> > Henry/ Harry
> > Archibald
> > Lillibet
> > Andrew
> > Beatrice
> > Eugenie
> > Edward
> > James
> > Louise
> > Anne
> > Peter
> > Zarra
> Close, but not correct. Following Beatrice is Sienna Elizabeth, and following Eugenie is August. Following Peter is Savannah, and then Isla Elizabeth.
> Following Zara is Mia, then Lena and then Lucas. And finally we pass from Her late Majesty's descendants to David Earl of Snowden
>
> Chuck

Totally correct as far as those who have _any_ chance of ascending the throne, but you're right, I did forget some of the infant twerps spawned by the first set of twerps.

I'm not predicting that the actual future monarchs will ever be other than the descendants of Willy (... unless his entire family is in a helicopter crash or similar).

On a slightly more relevant note, since we are talking inheritance law, is there a technical term for the manner of general inheritance practiced in medieval England?

English inheritance can be confusing because it operated differently on different levels. For the monarchy, it operated differently at different times, eventually settling on male-preference primogeniture (except when it wasn't), until a few years ago when it changed to strict primogeniture. For most of the highest titles, it was male-exclusive primogeniture. For most of the lesser titles of nobility, a modified male-preference primogeniture applied, in which cognatic inheritance required a unique female inheritor/cognatic line, else abeyance among the multiple daughters/lines resulted, and for landholdings and other such possessions and rights, it was a similarly modified male-preference primogeniture, but with equal partition among the cognates. So the question I have is, what is the technical term for this system of 'modified male-preference primogeniture with cognatic partition' inheritance? (I am sure there must be one, and likely more than one, since categorizing and naming is a tried and true way for social scientists to maintain their publication records without doing any actual research.)

taf

On 12-Jan-23 5:02 AM, taf wrote:
> On a slightly more relevant note, since we are talking inheritance law, is there a technical term for the manner of general inheritance practiced in medieval England?
>
> English inheritance can be confusing because it operated differently on different levels. For the monarchy, it operated differently at different times, eventually settling on male-preference primogeniture (except when it wasn't), until a few years ago when it changed to strict primogeniture. For most of the highest titles, it was male-exclusive primogeniture. For most of the lesser titles of nobility, a modified male-preference primogeniture applied, in which cognatic inheritance required a unique female inheritor/cognatic line, else abeyance among the multiple daughters/lines resulted, and for landholdings and other such possessions and rights, it was a similarly modified male-preference primogeniture, but with equal partition among the cognates. So the question I have is, what is the technical term for this system of 'modified male-preference primogeniture with cognatic partition' inheritance? (I am sure there must be one, and likely more than one, since categorizing and naming is a tried and true way for social scientists to maintain their publication records without doing any actual research.)
The preferred terms often use Salic inheritance as the reference, adding
prefixes for variants - semi-Salic, quasi-Salic. The technical term you
are looking for may be mad-hatter-Salic.
Peter Stewart

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On Wednesday, 11 January 2023 at 20:33:50 UTC, pss...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> On 12-Jan-23 5:02 AM, taf wrote:
> > On a slightly more relevant note, since we are talking inheritance law, is there a technical term for the manner of general inheritance practiced in medieval England?
> >
> > English inheritance can be confusing because it operated differently on different levels. For the monarchy, it operated differently at different times, eventually settling on male-preference primogeniture (except when it wasn't), until a few years ago when it changed to strict primogeniture. For most of the highest titles, it was male-exclusive primogeniture. For most of the lesser titles of nobility, a modified male-preference primogeniture applied, in which cognatic inheritance required a unique female inheritor/cognatic line, else abeyance among the multiple daughters/lines resulted, and for landholdings and other such possessions and rights, it was a similarly modified male-preference primogeniture, but with equal partition among the cognates. So the question I have is, what is the technical term for this system of 'modified male-preference primogeniture with cognatic partition' inheritance? (I am sure there must be one, and likely more than one, since categorizing and naming is a tried and true way for social scientists to maintain their publication records without doing any actual research.)
> The preferred terms often use Salic inheritance as the reference, adding
> prefixes for variants - semi-Salic, quasi-Salic. The technical term you
> are looking for may be mad-hatter-Salic.
>
> Peter Stewart
>
>
>
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