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by: Peter Jason - Sun, 19 Jun 2022 21:23 UTC

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Re: Dead witnesses.

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by: Peter Jason - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 01:01 UTC

On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Jason wrote:
>=================
>>
>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>
>
>** All depends if they signed before or after their deaths.
>
>
>
>..... Phil

Thank gOD you're here.

We'll dig 'em up!

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by: Petzl - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 02:35 UTC

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by: Peter Jason - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 02:52 UTC

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:35:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:23:43 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
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>>Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>
>Were they beneficiaries as well?
>>

No.

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by: Max - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 02:52 UTC

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:23:47 AM UTC+10, Peter Jason wrote:
> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?

If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed the will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very real problem!

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by: Rod Speed - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 04:49 UTC

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:52:49 +1000, Max <maxnews23@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:23:47 AM UTC+10, Peter Jason wrote:
>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>
> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed the
> will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very real
> problem!

Nope, the testator's signature means that there isn't a problem.

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by: Petzl - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 05:11 UTC

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:52:10 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:35:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:23:43 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>>
>>Were they beneficiaries as well?
>>>

>No.

Can't see any problem then
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Petzl
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Great lawyers know the judge

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by: Max - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 06:51 UTC

On 20/06/2022 2:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 12:52:49 +1000, Max <maxnews23@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:23:47 AM UTC+10, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>
>> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed
>> the will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very
>> real problem!
>
> Nope, the testator's signature means that there isn't a problem.

What is the point to the witnesses then, if it doesn't matter?

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by: Rod Speed - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 06:54 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <maxnews23@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason wrote

>>>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?

>>> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed
>>> the will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very
>>> real problem!

>> Nope, the testator's signature means that there isn't a problem.

> What is the point to the witnesses then, if it doesn't matter?

The point of witnesses is to show that the testator wasn't being
forced to sign and that the testator was the person who signed
it and that it wasn't a forgery etc. Doesn't matter if they die later.

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by: Phil Allison - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 08:53 UTC

Max the Wog Cunt wrote:
========================

> > Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>
> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed the will,

** ROTFL !!

> then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very real problem!

** Signatures, those who know the witnesses say it happened.

FOAD you wog POS

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by: Petzl - Tue, 21 Jun 2022 07:09 UTC

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 01:51:48 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> pet...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> >
>> >Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>> >
>> Were they beneficiaries as well?
>
>** Illegal.
>
A lawyer said it was and nothing could be done to contest the will?
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Great lawyers know the judge

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by: Max - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:55 UTC

On 20/06/2022 6:53 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the Wog Cunt wrote:
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>
>>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>
>> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed the will,
>
> ** ROTFL !!
>
>> then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very real problem!
>
> ** Signatures, those who know the witnesses say it happened.
>
>
> FOAD you wog POS
>

Get fucked you piece of shit!

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by: Max - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:02 UTC

On 20/06/2022 4:54 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <maxnews23@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason wrote
>
>>>>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>
>>>> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed
>>>> the will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very
>>>> real problem!
>
>>> Nope, the testator's signature means that there isn't a problem.
>
>> What is the point to the witnesses then, if it doesn't matter?
>
> The point of witnesses is to show that the testator wasn't being
> forced to sign and that the testator was the person who signed
> it and that it wasn't a forgery etc. Doesn't matter if they die later.

It would help if the witnesses were alive. That way they could say they
witnessed the execution of the will by the testator.

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by: Rod Speed - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:05 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <maxnews23@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason wrote

>>>>>> Is a will compromised if the two only witnesses are dead?
>>
>>>>> If there is a dispute as to whether the testator wrote and executed
>>>>> the will, then the fact that the witnesses are dead could be a very
>>>>> real problem!
>>
>>>> Nope, the testator's signature means that there isn't a problem.
>>
>>> What is the point to the witnesses then, if it doesn't matter?

>> The point of witnesses is to show that the testator wasn't being
>> forced to sign and that the testator was the person who signed
>> it and that it wasn't a forgery etc. Doesn't matter if they die later.

> It would help if the witnesses were alive.

But it isn't feasible to do a new signing every time
some witness dies, particularly with JPs etc, stupid.

> That way they could say they witnessedthe execution of the will by the
> testator.

That's what their signature says, stupid.

Subject	Author
Dead witnesses.	Peter Jason
Re: Dead witnesses.	Rod Speed
Re: Dead witnesses.	Phil Allison
Re: Dead witnesses.	Peter Jason
Re: Dead witnesses.	Petzl
Re: Dead witnesses.	Peter Jason
Re: Dead witnesses.	Petzl
Re: Dead witnesses.	Phil Allison
Re: Dead witnesses.	Petzl
Re: Dead witnesses.	Max
Re: Dead witnesses.	Rod Speed
Re: Dead witnesses.	Max
Re: Dead witnesses.	Rod Speed
Re: Dead witnesses.	Max
Re: Dead witnesses.	Rod Speed
Re: Dead witnesses.	Phil Allison
Re: Dead witnesses.	Max