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The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't mean it's a drop.

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Subject: The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't mean
it's a drop.
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 by: peps...@gmail.com - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 22:02 UTC

XGID=-a----EaC---dF-a-a-c--b-bA:0:0:-1:00:8:17:3:0:10
X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel

Score is X:17 O:8. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O X | | O X |
| X O | | O |
| X O | | O |
| X | | O |
| | | O |
| |BAR| |
| 6 | O | |
| O | | |
| O | | X |
| O | | X X X |
| O X X | | X X X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 138 O: 157 X-O: 17-8
Cube: 1
X on roll, cube action

Re: The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't mean it's a drop.

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From: ah_c...@ymail.com (ah....Clem)
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Subject: Re: The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't
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 by: ah....Clem - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 02:01 UTC

On 6/16/2021 6:02 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> XGID=-a----EaC---dF-a-a-c--b-bA:0:0:-1:00:8:17:3:0:10
> X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel
>
> Score is X:17 O:8. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | X O X | | O X |
> | X O | | O |
> | X O | | O |
> | X | | O |
> | | | O |
> | |BAR| |
> | 6 | O | |
> | O | | |
> | O | | X |
> | O | | X X X |
> | O X X | | X X X |
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 138 O: 157 X-O: 17-8
> Cube: 1
> X on roll, cube action
>

Ignoring the subject line as per recent ativity, it looks like a clear
action cube. O is on the bar with nine dances, she has no board, is
down by 20 pips in the race and there are three builders to either make
a fourth homeboard point or pounce on O if she enters.

With Jacoby, it can't be TG. So the cube is clear.

Can O take? Four blots strewn about the board and a checker on her ace
point plus X owning his own ace point. That's something, but the ugly
stacks on the mid and six points make me think this is a pass. Won't be
surprised if XG says take, but I'll let this one go.

D/P

--
Ah....Clem
The future is fun, the future is fair.

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Subject: Re: The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't
mean it's a drop.
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 by: Timothy Chow - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 04:09 UTC

On 6/16/2021 6:02 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> XGID=-a----EaC---dF-a-a-c--b-bA:0:0:-1:00:8:17:3:0:10
> X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel
>
> Score is X:17 O:8. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | X O X | | O X |
> | X O | | O |
> | X O | | O |
> | X | | O |
> | | | O |
> | |BAR| |
> | 6 | O | |
> | O | | |
> | O | | X |
> | O | | X X X |
> | O X X | | X X X |
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 138 O: 157 X-O: 17-8
> Cube: 1
> X on roll, cube action

This seems like a clear take to me. O has only one checker back,
with no other blots, and X has only nine checkers in the zone.
Yes, it's bad that O is 19 pips down and has no structure, but I
don't think that can make it a drop. In fact I think it's probably
just a borderline double.

Oh, and Stick would probably want someone to say 63S-65R-55A-F-C
or something like that.

---
Tim Chow

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Subject: Re: The fact that I'm stating up front that this is a take doesn't
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 by: peps...@gmail.com - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 12:29 UTC

On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 3:01:06 AM UTC+1, ah....Clem wrote:
> On 6/16/2021 6:02 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> > XGID=-a----EaC---dF-a-a-c--b-bA:0:0:-1:00:8:17:3:0:10
> > X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel
> >
> > Score is X:17 O:8. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> > +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> > | X O X | | O X |
> > | X O | | O |
> > | X O | | O |
> > | X | | O |
> > | | | O |
> > | |BAR| |
> > | 6 | O | |
> > | O | | |
> > | O | | X |
> > | O | | X X X |
> > | O X X | | X X X |
> > +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> > Pip count X: 138 O: 157 X-O: 17-8
> > Cube: 1
> > X on roll, cube action
> >
> Ignoring the subject line as per recent ativity, it looks like a clear
> action cube. O is on the bar with nine dances, she has no board, is
> down by 20 pips in the race and there are three builders to either make
> a fourth homeboard point or pounce on O if she enters.
>
> With Jacoby, it can't be TG. So the cube is clear.
>
> Can O take? Four blots strewn about the board and a checker on her ace
> point plus X owning his own ace point. That's something, but the ugly
> stacks on the mid and six points make me think this is a pass. Won't be
> surprised if XG says take, but I'll let this one go.
>
> D/P
>
> --
> Ah....Clem
> The future is fun, the future is fair.

I think your sailing races have become so easy for you, with such strong prevailing winds,
that you have just been coasting along, sitting in the cabin and studying bg while sailing.

Your analysis is totally on point -- and it's a very marginal pass which is exactly where you
seem to be sailing.

I will post the rollout later.

Paul

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