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o Re: Graham Family History problemAlexander Carroll

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Re: Graham Family History problem

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 by: Alexander Carroll - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:36 UTC

On Tuesday, 20 January 2004 at 12:04:25 UTC, Gordon Johnson wrote:
> Murchadh wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:38:12 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:26:16 +0000 (UTC), Dennis Ahern
> >><ah...@world.std.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>There was a criminal case brought in Belfast Ireland in 1772 against a
> >>>>man named Andrew Graham.
> >>>
> >>>The index to the Belfast News-Letter shows an Andrew Graham in a list of
> >>>persons named in relation to a rising or riot at Kilconway, county Antrim
> >>>reported on page 2 of the edition of 17 March 1772. There are several
> >>>other mentions of Graham, Andrew in the index, but this was the only one
> >>>for 1772.
> >>>
> >>>See: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/
> >>> Index to Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800
> >>>
> >>>This, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
> >>>_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> >>>Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
> >>>Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
> >>>ah...@world.std.com | http://www.tiara.ie
> >>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>
> >>Thank you. I suspect that this is our boy. He joined in the American
> >>Revolutionary War shortly after arriving in America.
> >>
> >>On the ship passenger list for the Pennsylvania Farmer, this family is
> >>all listed with the surname Grimbs. There are David, Jean, Matthew and
> >>Andrew Grimbs.
> >>
> >>See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
> >>
> >>I have been wondering the reason for this. Perhaps they were running
> >
> >>from the law. In every other source, their last name was Graham, not
> >
> >>Grimbs.
> >>
> > The Grahams running from the law to Ulster and Holland usually changed
> > their name by spelling Graham backwards to give Maharg. There are
> > Mahargs who stayed in Ulster or emigrated to North America, but most
> > changed their names so they could sneak back into the Borders of
> > England and Scotland after James VI/I proscribed them and hunted them
> > down for reiving.
> ** And he shipped many of them to Ireland when they were caught**
> > Interestingly, Graham is technically an English Border family, not
> > Scottish, but it hardly matters as the Border reivers would fight for
> > whichever country paid them the most and there was one battle where
> > the reivers changed sides three times as the bidding rose!
> ** No, the original govt. records of the period call them a Scottish
> family,
> though they indeed straddled the border, causing havoc on both sides.
> And some of them made their way back from Ireland, BUT without changing
> their surname at all.
> There is also a Scottish surname McHarg, common in Carrick in the 15th
> and 16th centuries, so some of these "Maharg" people could simply have
> been McHargs. It is best to check ALL possibilities.
> Gordon Johnson.

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