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* Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.peps...@gmail.com
+- Re: Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.ah....Clem
`- Re: Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.Timothy Chow

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Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.

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Subject: Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.
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 by: peps...@gmail.com - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 16:23 UTC

XGID=-BBBB-CA--Aa---b--B-c-dbc-:1:-1:-1:00:0:0:3:0:10
X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O O O |
| | | O O O O O |
| | | O |
| | | |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X X X | +---+
| X O | | X X X X | | 2 |
| X O | | X X X X | +---+
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 68 O: 91 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 2, X own cube
X on roll, cube action

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From: ah_c...@ymail.com (ah....Clem)
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Subject: Re: Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.
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 by: ah....Clem - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 18:26 UTC

On 6/26/2021 12:23 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> XGID=-BBBB-CA--Aa---b--B-c-dbc-:1:-1:-1:00:0:0:3:0:10
> X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel
>
> Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | X O O | | O O O O O |
> | | | O O O O O |
> | | | O |
> | | | |
> | | | |
> | |BAR| |
> | | | |
> | | | X |
> | | | X X X | +---+
> | X O | | X X X X | | 2 |
> | X O | | X X X X | +---+
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 68 O: 91 X-O: 0-0
> Cube: 2, X own cube
> X on roll, cube action
>
>

Doesn't seem clear at all to me. Although since the take decision is
unclear it must be a cube.

There's more contact than a usual bar point holding game so O should be
able to take when behind by more than the usual 14 or so. At 23 pips
down it's a stretch, so let's count X's bad rolls: 61, 51, 52 and
that's it for the rolls that force her to leave a direct shot.

So, I'm inclined to let this one go. R/P.

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Ah....Clem
The future is fun, the future is fair.

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: Re: Clear pass because I might not even get a shot.
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 by: Timothy Chow - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:06 UTC

On 6/26/2021 12:23 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> XGID=-BBBB-CA--Aa---b--B-c-dbc-:1:-1:-1:00:0:0:3:0:10
> X:eXtremeGammon O:Daniel
>
> Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | X O O | | O O O O O |
> | | | O O O O O |
> | | | O |
> | | | |
> | | | |
> | |BAR| |
> | | | |
> | | | X |
> | | | X X X | +---+
> | X O | | X X X X | | 2 |
> | X O | | X X X X | +---+
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 68 O: 91 X-O: 0-0
> Cube: 2, X own cube
> X on roll, cube action

X is far ahead in the pip count but has wastage, so O does have a
little bit of racing vig. O can get a shot either immediately, or
when X is trying to clear her outside point. Of course O then has
to hit it and win from there. I think O has enough to take but I'm
not sure.

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Tim Chow

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