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* rear tine tillersRalph Mowery
+* Re: rear tine tillersSnag
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From: rmower...@charter.net (Ralph Mowery)
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Subject: rear tine tillers
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 by: Ralph Mowery - Sun, 28 May 2023 23:27 UTC

Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
them or that brand of equipment?

Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?

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Subject: Re: rear tine tillers
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 by: Snag - Mon, 29 May 2023 00:46 UTC

On 5/28/2023 6:27 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
> them or that brand of equipment?
>
> Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?
>

I've got a Snapper . It's a helluva lot easier on my old body than
the front tine it replaced . Get one that has separate
reverse/forward/forward with tiller transmission .
--
Snag
"You can lead a dummy to facts
but you can't make him think."

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Subject: Re: rear tine tillers
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 by: Bob F - Mon, 29 May 2023 04:16 UTC

On 5/28/2023 4:27 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
> them or that brand of equipment?
>
> Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?
>

My tiller only has reverse tine motion, which means that I have to push
it to keep it moving frequently because the tires start spinning. That
one has the alternative forward tine rotation OR reverse. Probably will
work well.

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From: rmower...@charter.net (Ralph Mowery)
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Subject: Re: rear tine tillers
Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 09:49:00 -0400
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 by: Ralph Mowery - Mon, 29 May 2023 13:49 UTC

In article <u50slm$13mvp$1@dont-email.me>, Snag_one@msn.com says...
>
> I've got a Snapper . It's a helluva lot easier on my old body than
> the front tine it replaced . Get one that has separate
> reverse/forward/forward with tiller transmission .
> --
>
>

That is what I thought, it would be a lot easier on the body. I am in
good health now but 73 years old. Just do not seem to be able to keep
going for as long as I would like without resting.

I was looking to get one that had a reverse on it and all so the
reversing rotation of the tines. My plot is not very big, just about 20
tomato plants and a few squash, cucumbers, and cantalopes. I am not out
to raise a garden to save money, but just to mainly get fresh tomatoes.
The ones I get at stores around here is not worth carrying home.

Would be nice to get one that the wheels will turn without the tines
turning. I was looking at one but the tines turned when the wheels
turned. I could pull some pins and let the wheels roll without the
engine running. Did not like that as the garden is down a hill from the
storage shed.

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Subject: Re: rear tine tillers
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 by: Bob F - Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28 UTC

On 5/29/2023 6:49 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <u50slm$13mvp$1@dont-email.me>, Snag_one@msn.com says...
>>
>> I've got a Snapper . It's a helluva lot easier on my old body than
>> the front tine it replaced . Get one that has separate
>> reverse/forward/forward with tiller transmission .
>> --
>>
>>
>
> That is what I thought, it would be a lot easier on the body. I am in
> good health now but 73 years old. Just do not seem to be able to keep
> going for as long as I would like without resting.
>
> I was looking to get one that had a reverse on it and all so the
> reversing rotation of the tines. My plot is not very big, just about 20
> tomato plants and a few squash, cucumbers, and cantalopes. I am not out
> to raise a garden to save money, but just to mainly get fresh tomatoes.
> The ones I get at stores around here is not worth carrying home.
>
> Would be nice to get one that the wheels will turn without the tines
> turning. I was looking at one but the tines turned when the wheels
> turned. I could pull some pins and let the wheels roll without the
> engine running. Did not like that as the garden is down a hill from the
> storage shed.

Mine has neutral, forward, reverse, and till (forward with reverse
tines). I can't imagine such a heavy machine without the non tilling
modes. That makes adding a snow plow or other such equipment reasonable.
In neutral, it rolls easily on flat ground, but you need power for
hills, up or steep down.

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 by: Snag - Tue, 30 May 2023 00:14 UTC

On 5/29/2023 8:49 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <u50slm$13mvp$1@dont-email.me>, Snag_one@msn.com says...
>>
>> I've got a Snapper . It's a helluva lot easier on my old body than
>> the front tine it replaced . Get one that has separate
>> reverse/forward/forward with tiller transmission .
>> --
>>
>>
>
> That is what I thought, it would be a lot easier on the body. I am in
> good health now but 73 years old. Just do not seem to be able to keep
> going for as long as I would like without resting.

I'm 71 and healthy , and I know exactly what you mean . I try to get
in at least 4-6 hours of something productive every day . Some days I
actually do ...

>
> I was looking to get one that had a reverse on it and all so the
> reversing rotation of the tines. My plot is not very big, just about 20
> tomato plants and a few squash, cucumbers, and cantalopes. I am not out
> to raise a garden to save money, but just to mainly get fresh tomatoes.
> The ones I get at stores around here is not worth carrying home.

We're a bit more aggressive with our garden . I've got a thousand
square feet under cultivation . We aim to can or freeze quite a bit ,
assuming the garden produces as I hope . Another 600 sf is inside the
fence , devoted to bee hives and some berry bushes .

>
> Would be nice to get one that the wheels will turn without the tines
> turning. I was looking at one but the tines turned when the wheels
> turned. I could pull some pins and let the wheels roll without the
> engine running. Did not like that as the garden is down a hill from the
> storage shed.
>

I got mine used , probably paid too much for the condition it's in .
I think the guy I bought it from really believed it had "low hours" .
But it does the job well , and that's saying something considering how
rocky the soil is here .
--
Snag
"You can lead a dummy to facts
but you can't make him think."

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Subject: Re: rear tine tillers
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 by: Ralph Mowery - Wed, 31 May 2023 19:35 UTC

In article <MPG.3eddad88ea4b736a989ddc@news.eternal-september.org>,
rmowery42@charter.net says...
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
> them or that brand of equipment?
>
> Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?
>
>
>

I decided to go with the Yardmax from Lowes as I can pick it up at the
local store when it comes in. With the 5% discount it is about $ 40
less than te others. Has a B&S engine.

Here is a funny write up on it from another source. I would like to
know where the electric comes in. I have a dual fuel generator, but
could not find where to plug this tiller in, ha,ha. Just can not depend
on what you read most places. One source seems to say MTD makes most of
them with different names and paint. Maybe a few differences. Just
like many things you never really know who is making an item.

From:
https://www.plantgardener.com/who-manufactures-yardmax-tillers/

The YT4565 is an electric tiller with dual rear tines and a 208cc Briggs
& Stratton engine. The YT4565 has a 6.6-inch working depth and features
a front tine that can be adjusted to fit the soil type.

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 by: Bob F - Wed, 31 May 2023 22:01 UTC

On 5/31/2023 12:35 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <MPG.3eddad88ea4b736a989ddc@news.eternal-september.org>,
> rmowery42@charter.net says...
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
>> them or that brand of equipment?
>>
>> Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I decided to go with the Yardmax from Lowes as I can pick it up at the
> local store when it comes in. With the 5% discount it is about $ 40
> less than te others. Has a B&S engine.
>
> Here is a funny write up on it from another source. I would like to
> know where the electric comes in. I have a dual fuel generator, but
> could not find where to plug this tiller in, ha,ha. Just can not depend
> on what you read most places. One source seems to say MTD makes most of
> them with different names and paint. Maybe a few differences. Just
> like many things you never really know who is making an item.
>
> From:
> https://www.plantgardener.com/who-manufactures-yardmax-tillers/
>
>
> The YT4565 is an electric tiller with dual rear tines and a 208cc Briggs
> & Stratton engine. The YT4565 has a 6.6-inch working depth and features
> a front tine that can be adjusted to fit the soil type.

Electric start?

That article reads as if it was written by a demented plagiarist AI
computer.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Wed, 31 May 2023 22:27 UTC

In article <u58g38$2gvdi$1@dont-email.me>, bobnospam@gmail.com says...
>
> > The YT4565 is an electric tiller with dual rear tines and a 208cc Briggs
> > & Stratton engine. The YT4565 has a 6.6-inch working depth and features
> > a front tine that can be adjusted to fit the soil type.
>
> Electric start?
>
> That article reads as if it was written by a demented plagiarist AI
> computer.
>
>
>

No not electric start. No battery or anything that would need
electricity . Just the normally needed stuff of any small engine to
make a spark.

Yes that artical is very porely written.
Maybe by a 3 grader converting China to American language.

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 by: fos...@sdf.org - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 19:07 UTC

On 2023-05-31, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

> on what you read most places. One source seems to say MTD makes most of
> them with different names and paint. Maybe a few differences. Just
> like many things you never really know who is making an item.

I have a Simplicity riding mower, an Exmark push mower, and Stihl two
stoke trimming equipment (weed eater, sidewalk edger, chainsaw) and leaf
blower. The Simplicity I bought from a farm implement dealer, the Stihl
equipment from a power equipment dealer which also sells Cub Cadet, and
the Exmark from a commercial lawn equipment dealer. I quit buying stuff
at big box retailers many years ago, it's all 5 to maybe 10 year throw
away trash. And good luck finding parts for it when Home Cheapo doesn't
sell that model next year.

I had the same conversation about where the equipment is made with all
three dealers. Almost all riding mowers with hydrostatic transmissions
whether they're el-cheapos at big box retailers or commercial quality
products use Tuff Torq transmissions. None make their own engines
either. B&S, Kohler, and Kawasaki are the most common. Briggs and
Stratton owns Simplicity now so technically they do make their own
engines. What the manufactures do make is their own decks and frames
and they assemble them. Same for products sold at big box retailers as
well as at dealers proper. The difference in price is the thickness of
the metal the frames and desks are made from and the expected longevity
(quality) of the engines and transmissions bolted to them.

All the Stihl equipment was made and assembled in Germany. The push
mower, I'm not sure where it was made. I bought it because of the
thick cast aluminum deck. I'm not a fan of the Kawasaki engine bolted
to it, but it hasn't given me any problems either other than having to
take the recoil apart every few years to clean and lube it when it
starts to stick.

Anyway, after all that rambling and big box retailer bashing, my money
is on Yardmax makes and assembles their own tillers with purchased
engines and gearboxes.

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 by: Michael Trew - Sat, 3 Jun 2023 22:00 UTC

On 5/28/2023 20:46, Snag wrote:
> On 5/28/2023 6:27 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone used the DR PRO XLDRT tiller ? If so what is your opinion of
>> them or that brand of equipment?
>>
>> Any other subjugations for the rear tine tillers ?
>
> I've got a Snapper . It's a helluva lot easier on my old body than the
> front tine it replaced . Get one that has separate
> reverse/forward/forward with tiller transmission .

I picked up an old 70's Gilson front tine tiller from the original owner
a few years ago. For the $40 or $50 I paid for it, it was well worth
it, but I do wish it was a larger rear-tine unit. With the front tine
ones, you have to do a lot more picking at the ground before tilling...
especially with the heavy clay soils around here. I don't have enough
property at the moment to justify a bigger unit.

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