Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life

The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville

see also the pedigree given here:
https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO

The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV

Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
in Edmonton in 1915:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B

Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated.

Leslie

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:40:49 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life
>
> The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville
>
> see also the pedigree given here:
> https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO
>
> The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
> which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
> Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:
>
> https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
>
> shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
> Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV
>
> Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
> Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
> in Edmonton in 1915:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B
>
> Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
> it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated.
>
> Leslie

This source also doubts the claimed princely Teck descent, but is not internally consistent /coherent:

https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/115198

"From her mother Clarice Remnant's father, Francis Remnant, Sarah Miles claims to be the great-granddaughter of Prince Francis of Teck and thus a second cousin once removed of Elizabeth II of Great Britain. She is mistaken in this.

Francis Remnant died unmarried in1910. The parents of Sarah Miles were John Miles and Clarice Vera Remnant, who married in Holborn in 1942. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles - so the couple may have lived together previously and Clarice Vera changed her name to Miles by Deed Poll.

The parents of Clarice Vera Remnant, born 1916, were Frank Remnant and Doris H Taylor, who married in Edmonton, at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant was born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894 - perhaps some research was carried out and it was thought that Frank was a diminutive of Francis and it was wrongly assumed that he was Prince Francis of Teck. This is clearly impossible because Clarice Vera Remnamt was definitely the mother of Sarah Miles and she was born over five years after the death of Prince Francis."

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:40:49 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life
> >
> > The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville
> >
> > see also the pedigree given here:
> > https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO
> >
> > The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
> > which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
> > Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:
> >
> > https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
> >
> > shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
> > Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV
> >
> > Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
> > Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
> > in Edmonton in 1915:
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B
> >
> > Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
> > it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated.
> >
> > Leslie
> This source also doubts the claimed princely Teck descent, but is not internally consistent /coherent:
>
> https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/115198
>
> "From her mother Clarice Remnant's father, Francis Remnant, Sarah Miles claims to be the great-granddaughter of Prince Francis of Teck and thus a second cousin once removed of Elizabeth II of Great Britain. She is mistaken in this.
>
> Francis Remnant died unmarried in1910. The parents of Sarah Miles were John Miles and Clarice Vera Remnant, who married in Holborn in 1942. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles - so the couple may have lived together previously and Clarice Vera changed her name to Miles by Deed Poll.
>
> The parents of Clarice Vera Remnant, born 1916, were Frank Remnant and Doris H Taylor, who married in Edmonton, at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant was born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894 - perhaps some research was carried out and it was thought that Frank was a diminutive of Francis and it was wrongly assumed that he was Prince Francis of Teck. This is clearly impossible because Clarice Vera Remnamt was definitely the mother of Sarah Miles and she was born over five years after the death of Prince Francis."

MILES , Christopher ( John ) 1939- PERSONAL : Born April 19 , 1939 , in London , England ; son of John ( member of the House of Commons ) and Clarice Baskerville ( Remnant ) Miles ...

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Authors/xcHiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville+clarice+miles&dq=baskerville+clarice+miles&printsec=frontcover

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:34:46 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:40:49 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life
> > >
> > > The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville
> > >
> > > see also the pedigree given here:
> > > https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO
> > >
> > > The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
> > > which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
> > > Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:
> > >
> > > https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
> > >
> > > shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
> > > Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV
> > >
> > > Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
> > > Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
> > > in Edmonton in 1915:
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B
> > >
> > > Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
> > > it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated..
> > >
> > > Leslie
> > This source also doubts the claimed princely Teck descent, but is not internally consistent /coherent:
> >
> > https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/115198
> >
> > "From her mother Clarice Remnant's father, Francis Remnant, Sarah Miles claims to be the great-granddaughter of Prince Francis of Teck and thus a second cousin once removed of Elizabeth II of Great Britain. She is mistaken in this.
> >
> > Francis Remnant died unmarried in1910. The parents of Sarah Miles were John Miles and Clarice Vera Remnant, who married in Holborn in 1942. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles - so the couple may have lived together previously and Clarice Vera changed her name to Miles by Deed Poll.
> >
> > The parents of Clarice Vera Remnant, born 1916, were Frank Remnant and Doris H Taylor, who married in Edmonton, at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant was born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894 - perhaps some research was carried out and it was thought that Frank was a diminutive of Francis and it was wrongly assumed that he was Prince Francis of Teck. This is clearly impossible because Clarice Vera Remnamt was definitely the mother of Sarah Miles and she was born over five years after the death of Prince Francis."
> MILES , Christopher ( John ) 1939- PERSONAL : Born April 19 , 1939 , in London , England ; son of John ( member of the House of Commons ) and Clarice Baskerville ( Remnant ) Miles ...
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Authors/xcHiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville+clarice+miles&dq=baskerville+clarice+miles&printsec=frontcover

"Miles's mother was Clarice Vera Remnant (born 1916), whose parents were Frank Remnant and Doris H. Taylor, married in Edmonton at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant had been born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894, and is claimed as the illegitimate son of Prince Francis of Teck,[4] who was born in 1870 and died unmarried in 1910, by a seamstress at White Lodge, Richmond Park. Frank's daughter Clarice Vera Remnant married John Miles at Holborn in 1942, shortly after the birth their daughter Sarah Miles on 31 December 1941. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles. Frank Remnant, then aged seven, is shown as one of several children of Frank and Georgina Remnant, on the 1901 census return for Tottenham. If indeed Georgina Remnant was not his mother, she must have been persuaded to bring him up as her own. According to the census return, he had - among the others - siblings two years older and two years younger than him. This would mean a gap of four years between the births of those siblings, an unusually wide one in the structure of the family, if Frank was not Georgina's son."

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Sarah%20Miles/en-en/

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 7:51:32 PM UTC-7, JBrand wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:34:46 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:40:49 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life
> > > >
> > > > The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville
> > > >
> > > > see also the pedigree given here:
> > > > https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO
> > > >
> > > > The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
> > > > which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
> > > > Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
> > > >
> > > > shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
> > > > Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV
> > > >
> > > > Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
> > > > Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
> > > > in Edmonton in 1915:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B
> > > >
> > > > Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
> > > > it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated.
> > > >
> > > > Leslie
> > > This source also doubts the claimed princely Teck descent, but is not internally consistent /coherent:
> > >
> > > https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/115198
> > >
> > > "From her mother Clarice Remnant's father, Francis Remnant, Sarah Miles claims to be the great-granddaughter of Prince Francis of Teck and thus a second cousin once removed of Elizabeth II of Great Britain. She is mistaken in this.
> > >
> > > Francis Remnant died unmarried in1910. The parents of Sarah Miles were John Miles and Clarice Vera Remnant, who married in Holborn in 1942. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles - so the couple may have lived together previously and Clarice Vera changed her name to Miles by Deed Poll.
> > >
> > > The parents of Clarice Vera Remnant, born 1916, were Frank Remnant and Doris H Taylor, who married in Edmonton, at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant was born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894 - perhaps some research was carried out and it was thought that Frank was a diminutive of Francis and it was wrongly assumed that he was Prince Francis of Teck. This is clearly impossible because Clarice Vera Remnamt was definitely the mother of Sarah Miles and she was born over five years after the death of Prince Francis."
> > MILES , Christopher ( John ) 1939- PERSONAL : Born April 19 , 1939 , in London , England ; son of John ( member of the House of Commons ) and Clarice Baskerville ( Remnant ) Miles ...
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Authors/xcHiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville+clarice+miles&dq=baskerville+clarice+miles&printsec=frontcover
> "Miles's mother was Clarice Vera Remnant (born 1916), whose parents were Frank Remnant and Doris H. Taylor, married in Edmonton at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant had been born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894, and is claimed as the illegitimate son of Prince Francis of Teck,[4] who was born in 1870 and died unmarried in 1910, by a seamstress at White Lodge, Richmond Park. Frank's daughter Clarice Vera Remnant married John Miles at Holborn in 1942, shortly after the birth their daughter Sarah Miles on 31 December 1941. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles. Frank Remnant, then aged seven, is shown as one of several children of Frank and Georgina Remnant, on the 1901 census return for Tottenham. If indeed Georgina Remnant was not his mother, she must have been persuaded to bring him up as her own. According to the census return, he had - among the others - siblings two years older and two years younger than him. This would mean a gap of four years between the births of those siblings, an unusually wide one in the structure of the family, if Frank was not Georgina's son."
>
> http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Sarah%20Miles/en-en/

Interesting that these other accounts have dropped the supposed Baskerville descent.

Frank Remnant was born 25 Feb. 1894, son of Frank & Georgina, who lived at Mortlake,
a suburb of Richmond, Surrey:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK88-T4W

Leslie

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 7:51:32 PM UTC-7, JBrand wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:34:46 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:40:49 PM UTC-4, Leslie Mahler wrote:
> > > > Prince Francis of Teck, died 1910, supposedly had an illegitimate son who was an ancestor of actress Sarah Miles, noted here:
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_of_Teck#Personal_life
> > > >
> > > > The source for this claim is a book published in 1993. Portions of the book are viewable on Google Books. The author claims that her mother Clarice's mother was born into a Baskerville family:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Right_Royal_Bastard/h35ZAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville
> > > >
> > > > see also the pedigree given here:
> > > > https://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00312376&tree=LEO
> > > >
> > > > The author's mother Clarice was born into a family named Remnant,
> > > > which is thankfully a relatively uncommon name.
> > > > Searching under births for persons named Remnant here:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
> > > >
> > > > shows only Clarice in the correct time period. She was born in
> > > > Edmonton, Middlesex, in 1916:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FYC-4QV
> > > >
> > > > Clarice's mother's surname was Taylor, NOT Baskerville.
> > > > Clarice's parents were Frank Remnant & Doris Taylor, married
> > > > in Edmonton in 1915:
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X3-DDL
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26X7-F3B
> > > >
> > > > Since the author was wrong about the supposed Baskerville connection,
> > > > it would not surprising if the connection to Teck was also fabricated.
> > > >
> > > > Leslie
> > > This source also doubts the claimed princely Teck descent, but is not internally consistent /coherent:
> > >
> > > https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/115198
> > >
> > > "From her mother Clarice Remnant's father, Francis Remnant, Sarah Miles claims to be the great-granddaughter of Prince Francis of Teck and thus a second cousin once removed of Elizabeth II of Great Britain. She is mistaken in this.
> > >
> > > Francis Remnant died unmarried in1910. The parents of Sarah Miles were John Miles and Clarice Vera Remnant, who married in Holborn in 1942. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles - so the couple may have lived together previously and Clarice Vera changed her name to Miles by Deed Poll.
> > >
> > > The parents of Clarice Vera Remnant, born 1916, were Frank Remnant and Doris H Taylor, who married in Edmonton, at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant was born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894 - perhaps some research was carried out and it was thought that Frank was a diminutive of Francis and it was wrongly assumed that he was Prince Francis of Teck. This is clearly impossible because Clarice Vera Remnamt was definitely the mother of Sarah Miles and she was born over five years after the death of Prince Francis."
> > MILES , Christopher ( John ) 1939- PERSONAL : Born April 19 , 1939 , in London , England ; son of John ( member of the House of Commons ) and Clarice Baskerville ( Remnant ) Miles ...
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Authors/xcHiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=baskerville+clarice+miles&dq=baskerville+clarice+miles&printsec=frontcover
> "Miles's mother was Clarice Vera Remnant (born 1916), whose parents were Frank Remnant and Doris H. Taylor, married in Edmonton at the end of 1915. Frank Remnant had been born in Richmond, Surrey, in 1894, and is claimed as the illegitimate son of Prince Francis of Teck,[4] who was born in 1870 and died unmarried in 1910, by a seamstress at White Lodge, Richmond Park. Frank's daughter Clarice Vera Remnant married John Miles at Holborn in 1942, shortly after the birth their daughter Sarah Miles on 31 December 1941. The marriage is also registered in the name of Clarice Vera Miles. Frank Remnant, then aged seven, is shown as one of several children of Frank and Georgina Remnant, on the 1901 census return for Tottenham. If indeed Georgina Remnant was not his mother, she must have been persuaded to bring him up as her own. According to the census return, he had - among the others - siblings two years older and two years younger than him. This would mean a gap of four years between the births of those siblings, an unusually wide one in the structure of the family, if Frank was not Georgina's son."
>
> http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Sarah%20Miles/en-en/

Interesting that these other accounts have dropped the supposed Baskerville descent.

Frank Remnant was born 25 Feb. 1894, son of Frank & Georgina, who lived at Mortlake,
a suburb of Richmond, Surrey:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK88-T4W

Leslie