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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:07 UTC

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

"a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"

Айде сега цигански работи!?

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-
ukraine-war-1780903

баси тъпото копеле си - защо пропускаш кавичките в заглавието на
статията?!

Russian Politician Says It's Time to 'Admit' Real Reason for Ukraine War

https://t.co/YIYb8fIyTL

къде в този запис става дума за путин и останалите измислици на онази
кифла? това са само 31 секунди.

верно си идиот, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист няма да помогнат.

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:06 UTC

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>
>
> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"
>
> Айде сега цигански работи!?

"Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."

"We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."

"He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""

Мислиш, че са превели неточно?

https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:10 UTC

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-
> ukraine-war-1780903
> баси тъпото копеле си - защо пропускаш кавичките в заглавието на
> статията?!
>
> Russian Politician Says It's Time to 'Admit' Real Reason for Ukraine War
>
> https://t.co/YIYb8fIyTL
>
> къде в този запис става дума за путин и останалите измислици на онази
> кифла? това са само 31 секунди.

Не знам дали аз съм тъпо копеле, то ти си изключително нагло копеле.
Не е отскоро де.

>
> верно си идиот, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист няма да помогнат.
>
> --
> «地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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by: chorbalan - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 02:09 UTC

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>>
>> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>>
>>
>> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"
>>
>> Айде сега цигански работи!?
>
> "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
>
> "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
> project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
>
> "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
> Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
>
> Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
>
> https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA

Това какво общо има със забележката ми?

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 02:46 UTC

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
> >>
> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
> >>
> >>
> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"
> >>
> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
> >
> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
> >
> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
> >
> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
> > Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
> >
> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
> >
> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм посочил.

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by: chorbalan - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 04:23 UTC

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"
>> >>
>> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
>> >
>> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
>> >
>> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
>> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
>> >
>> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
>> > Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
>> >
>> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
>> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
>
> Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм посочил.

Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.

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by: Nick - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 05:29 UTC

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:10:59 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-
reason-ukraine-war-1780903 баси тъпото копеле си - защо пропускаш
>> кавичките в заглавието на статията?!

>> Russian Politician Says It's Time to 'Admit' Real Reason for Ukraine
>> War

>> https://t.co/YIYb8fIyTL

>> къде в този запис става дума за путин и останалите измислици на онази
>> кифла? това са само 31 секунди.

> Не знам дали аз съм тъпо копеле, то ти си изключително нагло копеле.
> Не е отскоро де.

на тъпо копеле това се полага - чу ли записа или пак ти е достатъчно
написаното от авторката?

и не смей да говориш за наглост - в тази група ти си мярката за това.

нещо за признанието на бившия ви министър на отбраната имаш ли какво да
кажеш?

>> верно си идиот, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист няма да помогнат.

обърни внимание и на това.

и пак ще те попитам - къде в посочения запис руснакът говори за путин? и
защо си пропуснал кавичките в заглавието на статията?!

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Subject: Re: "Време е да си признаем ист
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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:19 UTC

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties to Russia"
> >> >>
> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
> >> >
> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
> >> >
> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
> >> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
> >> >
> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
> >> > Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
> >> >
> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
> >> >
> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
> >
> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм посочил.
> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тендециозна)? Аз насочих внманието към конкретните изказвания на висш
руски политик. Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода на изказването му, доколкото мога да
преценя с моя руски, е точен.

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by: Nick - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 16:53 UTC

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

>> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

>> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-
real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

>> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties
>> >> >> to Russia"

>> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?

>> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched
>> >> > the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."

>> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that
>> >> > denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
>> >> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no
>> >> > more."

>> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the
>> >> > country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking
>> >> > control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish
>> >> > today.""

>> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?

>> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
>> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?

>> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
>> > посочил.

>> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.

> Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тендециозна)? Аз насочих
> внманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски политик. Те са от
> значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода на изказването
> му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.

опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.

а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой да го
разбере.

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:02 UTC

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-
> real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>
> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic ties
> >> >> >> to Russia"
>
> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
>
> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched
> >> >> > the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
>
> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that
> >> >> > denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
> >> >> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no
> >> >> > more."
>
> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the
> >> >> > country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking
> >> >> > control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish
> >> >> > today.""
>
> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
>
> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
>
> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
> >> > посочил.
>
> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
>
> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тендециозна)? Аз насочих
> > внманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски политик. Те са от
> > значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода на изказването
> > му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.
> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.
>
> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой да го
> разбере.
Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията, нито съм цитирал написаното от атвора й.
Пуснал съм я защото цитира _руски депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на автора не ме интересува.

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by: Nick - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:12 UTC

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

>> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

>> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-
>> real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

>> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic
>> >> >> >> ties to Russia"

>> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?

>> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched
>> >> >> > the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."

>> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit
>> >> >> > that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine
>> >> >> > as a project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but
>> >> >> > it is no more."

>> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the
>> >> >> > country is actually a territory of Russia. He described
>> >> >> > retaking control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to
>> >> >> > accomplish today.""

>> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?

>> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
>> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?

>> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
>> >> > посочил.

>> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.

>> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тенденциозна)? Аз
>> > насочих вниманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски политик.
>> > Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода на
>> > изказването му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.

>> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.

>> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой да
>> го разбере.

> Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията, нито
> съм цитирал написаното от атвора й. Пуснал съм я защото цитира _руски
> депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на автора не ме
> интересува.

абе идиот, можеш ли да цитираш какво точно казва руснака, дума по дума -
да сравним с това, което се твърди в статията? няма да го направиш, защото
ще лъснете двамата с авторката като голи задници на месечина.

и има много общо, но ако сам не го видиш, няма какво повече да ти се
обяснява. кон с капаци от дума не разбира.

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:53 UTC

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:12:44 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-admit-
> >> real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>
> >> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with linguistic
> >> >> >> >> ties to Russia"
>
> >> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
>
> >> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched
> >> >> >> > the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
>
> >> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit
> >> >> >> > that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine
> >> >> >> > as a project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but
> >> >> >> > it is no more."
>
> >> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the
> >> >> >> > country is actually a territory of Russia. He described
> >> >> >> > retaking control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to
> >> >> >> > accomplish today.""
>
> >> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
>
> >> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
> >> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
>
> >> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
> >> >> > посочил.
>
> >> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
> >> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тенденциозна)? Аз
> >> > насочих вниманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски политик.
> >> > Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода на
> >> > изказването му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.
>
> >> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.
>
> >> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой да
> >> го разбере.
>
> > Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията, нито
> > съм цитирал написаното от атвора й. Пуснал съм я защото цитира _руски
> > депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на автора не ме
> > интересува.
> абе идиот, можеш ли да цитираш какво точно казва руснака, дума по дума -
Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
"We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
"He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
Кое от това не отговаря на видеото?
> да сравним с това, което се твърди в статията? няма да го направиш, защото
> ще лъснете двамата с авторката като голи задници на месечина.
>
> и има много общо, но ако сам не го видиш, няма какво повече да ти се
> обяснява. кон с капаци от дума не разбира.
> --
> «地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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by: Nick - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 05:22 UTC

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 13:53:40 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:12:44 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> >> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-
admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

>> >> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with
>> >> >> >> >> linguistic ties to Russia"

>> >> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?

>> >> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he
>> >> >> >> > launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV
>> >> >> >> > appearance_."

>> >> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit
>> >> >> >> > that denazification and demilitarization will shut down
>> >> >> >> > Ukraine as a project once and for all," he said. "It once
>> >> >> >> > existed, but it is no more."

>> >> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that
>> >> >> >> > the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described
>> >> >> >> > retaking control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to
>> >> >> >> > accomplish today.""

>> >> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?

>> >> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
>> >> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?

>> >> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
>> >> >> > посочил.

>> >> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
>> >> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тенденциозна)? Аз
>> >> > насочих вниманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски
>> >> > политик.

>> >> > Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода
>> >> > на изказването му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.

>> >> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.

>> >> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой
>> >> да го разбере.

>> > Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията,
>> > нито съм цитирал написаното от атвора й. Пуснал съм я защото цитира
>> > _руски депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на автора не
>> > ме интересува.

>> абе идиот, можеш ли да цитираш какво точно казва руснака, дума по дума
>> -

> Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the
> Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."

> "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that
> denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a project
> once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."

> "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country
> is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
> Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""

> Кое от това не отговаря на видеото?

на руски, идиот, на руски, защото аз името „путин“ не чух.

добре е да се придържаш към истината, не боли.

--
«地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:39 UTC

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:22:07 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 13:53:40 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:12:44 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
>
> >> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-
> admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903
>
> >> >> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with
> >> >> >> >> >> linguistic ties to Russia"
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?
>
> >> >> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he
> >> >> >> >> > launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV
> >> >> >> >> > appearance_."
>
> >> >> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit
> >> >> >> >> > that denazification and demilitarization will shut down
> >> >> >> >> > Ukraine as a project once and for all," he said. "It once
> >> >> >> >> > existed, but it is no more."
>
> >> >> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that
> >> >> >> >> > the country is actually a territory of Russia. He described
> >> >> >> >> > retaking control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to
> >> >> >> >> > accomplish today.""
>
> >> >> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?
>
> >> >> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
> >> >> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?
>
> >> >> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който съм
> >> >> >> > посочил.
>
> >> >> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
> >> >> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тенденциозна)? Аз
> >> >> > насочих вниманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски
> >> >> > политик.
>
> >> >> > Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията. Превода
> >> >> > на изказването му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя руски, е точен.
>
> >> >> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.
>
> >> >> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама кой
> >> >> да го разбере.
>
> >> > Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията,
> >> > нито съм цитирал написаното от атвора й. Пуснал съм я защото цитира
> >> > _руски депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на автора не
> >> > ме интересува.
>
> >> абе идиот, можеш ли да цитираш какво точно казва руснака, дума по дума
> >> -
>
> > Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the
> > Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."
>
> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that
> > denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a project
> > once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no more."
>
> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the country
> > is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking control of
> > Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish today.""
>
> > Кое от това не отговаря на видеото?
> на руски, идиот, на руски, защото аз името „путин“ не чух.
>
> добре е да се придържаш към истината, не боли.
> --
> «地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»
Когато казва, че трябва да се признае целта на "СВО", кой според теб трябва да признае това?

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by: Nick - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:38 UTC

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 09:39:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:22:07 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 13:53:40 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:12:44 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> >> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:19:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:46:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

>> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
>> >> >> >> > wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:06:45 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-5,
>> >> >> >> >> > chorbalan wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:07:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.newsweek.com/russian-politician-says-time-
>> admit-real-reason-ukraine-war-1780903

>> >> >> >> >> >> "a separatist region in southeastern Ukraine with
>> >> >> >> >> >> linguistic ties to Russia"

>> >> >> >> >> >> Айде сега цигански работи!?

>> >> >> >> >> > "Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he
>> >> >> >> >> > launched the Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state
>> >> >> >> >> > TV appearance_."

>> >> >> >> >> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and
>> >> >> >> >> > admit that denazification and demilitarization will shut
>> >> >> >> >> > down Ukraine as a project once and for all," he said. "It
>> >> >> >> >> > once existed, but it is no more."

>> >> >> >> >> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and
>> >> >> >> >> > that the country is actually a territory of Russia. He
>> >> >> >> >> > described retaking control of Ukraine as "the most
>> >> >> >> >> > important thing to accomplish today.""

>> >> >> >> >> > Мислиш, че са превели неточно?

>> >> >> >> >> > https://youtu.be/n6k9A5KzRqA
>> >> >> >> >> Това какво общо има със забележката ми?

>> >> >> >> > Не разбрах какво общо има забележката ти с акцента, който
>> >> >> >> > съм посочил.

>> >> >> >> Показва някаква тендециозност в отношението.
>> >> >> > Какво значение има това (дали цялата статия е тенденциозна)? Аз
>> >> >> > насочих вниманието към конкретните изказвания на висш руски
>> >> >> > политик.

>> >> >> > Те са от значение, а не това как са отразени в статията.
>> >> >> > Превода на изказването му, доколкото мога да преценя с моя
>> >> >> > руски, е точен.

>> >> >> опитай се да прочетеш неговите думи за 31 секунди.

>> >> >> а чорби говори за тенденциозност при теб, а не в статията, ама
>> >> >> кой да го разбере.

>> >> > Какво общо има моята тенденциозност тук? Не съм писъл аз статията,
>> >> > нито съм цитирал написаното от атвора й. Пуснал съм я защото
>> >> > цитира _руски депутат от упраляващата партия_. Интерпретацията на
>> >> > автора не ме интересува.

>> >> абе идиот, можеш ли да цитираш какво точно казва руснака, дума по
>> >> дума -

>> > Gurulyov argued Putin should finally own up to why he launched the
>> > Ukraine invasion _during the Russian state TV appearance_."

>> > "We should shut down the topic of Ukraine for good and admit that
>> > denazification and demilitarization will shut down Ukraine as a
>> > project once and for all," he said. "It once existed, but it is no
>> > more."

>> > "He continued to assert that "there is no Ukraine" and that the
>> > country is actually a territory of Russia. He described retaking
>> > control of Ukraine as "the most important thing to accomplish
>> > today.""

>> > Кое от това не отговаря на видеото?
>> на руски, идиот, на руски, защото аз името „путин“ не чух.

>> добре е да се придържаш към истината, не боли.

> Когато казва, че трябва да се признае целта на "СВО", кой според теб
> трябва да признае това?

недей да шикалкавиш - това са интерпретации, които ти заяви, че не те
интересуват.

руснакът не казва нищо такова, каквото се опитва да вмени журналистката.
виж какво казва ведрин за превода на галя дачкова на интервюто с арно
кларсфелд.

както ти казах вече - истината не боли.

--
«地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Thu, 16 Feb 2023 16:13 UTC

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:38:24 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 09:39:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>

...
> >> добре е да се придържаш към истината, не боли.
> > Когато казва, че трябва да се признае целта на "СВО", кой според теб
> > трябва да признае това?
> недей да шикалкавиш - това са интерпретации, които ти заяви, че не те
> интересуват.

Не шикалкавя. Според мен подтекста на изказването на Гурульов е отразен коректно в статията на
Нюзуийк. Според него Русия/Путин ясно трабва да каже, че цента на "СВО" е прекратяването на
украинската държавност (то не че това не е ясно за всеки с поне грам разбиране и интелектуален
интегритет). На всеки е трябва да е ясно, че Путин отказва да изплюе камъчето. Иначе как да
обясним коментари като тези на Борко по темата?

Ако не е това ти как интерпретираш изказването на Гурульов?

>
> руснакът не казва нищо такова, каквото се опитва да вмени журналистката.
> виж какво казва ведрин за превода на галя дачкова на интервюто с арно
> кларсфелд.
>
> както ти казах вече - истината не боли.
> --
> «地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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by: Nick - Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:56 UTC

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 08:13:13 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:38:24 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 09:39:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> ...

>> >> добре е да се придържаш към истината, не боли.

>> > Когато казва, че трябва да се признае целта на "СВО", кой според теб
>> > трябва да признае това?

>> недей да шикалкавиш - това са интерпретации, които ти заяви, че не те
>> интересуват.

> Не шикалкавя. Според мен подтекста на изказването на Гурульов е отразен
> коректно в статията на Нюзуийк. Според него Русия/Путин ясно трабва да
> каже, че цента на "СВО" е прекратяването на украинската държавност (то
> не че това не е ясно за всеки с поне грам разбиране и интелектуален
> интегритет). На всеки е трябва да е ясно, че Путин отказва да изплюе
> камъчето. Иначе как да обясним коментари като тези на Борко по темата?

> Ако не е това ти как интерпретираш изказването на Гурульов?

ха, нали заяви преди два дена, че интерпретации не те интересуват?!

и какво има да се интерпретира на едно мнение на депутат?

и да, шикалкавиш.

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«地球誕生在牛市的小時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

Subject	Author
"Време е да си признаем истин	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	chorbalan
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	chorbalan
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	chorbalan
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си признаем истинската причина за СВО"	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си	Nick
Re: "Време е да си признаем ист	Ivaylo Ivanov
Re: "Време е да си	Nick