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Subject: Re: Italian prosecutor demands cancellation of birth certificates for lesbian couples
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:28:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: carpert-...@hillaryclinton.com (Hillary is a lesbian)

by: Hillary is a lesbian - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:28 UTC

On 09 Feb 2022, Ubiquitous <killkill@polaris.net> posted some
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> Everyone knows lesbians cannot father children. Even stupid ignorant
> liberals know that.

By Crispian Balmer and Francesca Piscioneri

ROME (Reuters) - A state prosecutor in northern Italy has demanded the
cancellation of 33 birth certificates of children born to lesbian couples
dating back to 2017, saying the name of the non-biological mother should
be removed.

The move by the prosecutor of Padua, which came to light late on Monday,
highlighted the legal morass facing gay families in Italy. It came months
after Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's government ordered city councils to
stop registering same-sex parents' children.

Italy legalised same-sex civil unions in 2016 under a centre-left
government, but stopped short of giving couples full adoption rights,
fearing that it would encourage surrogate pregnancies, which remain
illegal.

In the absence of clear legislation on the issue some courts have ruled in
favour of allowing such couples to adopt each others' children, and mayors
of some cities, including Padua, have registered births to both partners
from same-sex unions.

However, the prosecutor of Padua, Valeria Sanzari, opened a legal case
this month, saying that 33 birth certificates signed by the city mayor
since 2017 should be changed, with the name of the non-biological mother
removed.

A court will rule on her requests later this year.

The prosecutor's initiative outraged Italy's LGBTQ+ community.

"These children are being orphaned by decree," said centre-left
parliamentarian Alessandro Zan, who has pushed for gay rights in Italy.
"This is a cruel, inhumane decision," he added.

Removing the name of a parent from a birth certificate creates both
bureaucratic hurdles and emotional strains.

The mother whose name is eliminated will no longer be able to fulfil a
series of tasks, including picking up her child from school without the
written permission of her partner. If the legally recognised parent dies,
the children could be taken from the family home and become a ward of the
state.

To regain her parenting rights, the non-biological mother has to go
through a lengthy and expensive special adoption procedure.

The government defended the prosecutor's decision.

"In Italy, marriage is only between a man and a woman, and therefore only
the biological parent is the parent whose surname can be registered," Luca
Ciriani, the minister for parliamentary relations, told RTL radio on
Tuesday.

Italy's lower house is currently debating a law that would make it a
crime, punishable by up to two years in jail, for couples who go abroad to
have a surrogate baby, even in places where it is legal, such as the
United States or Canada.

Meloni, a self-declared enemy of what she calls "gender ideology" and "the
LGBT lobby", faces increasing scrutiny from abroad over her highly
conservative agenda for families.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told Meloni publicly at a summit of
Group of Seven leaders in Japan last month that Canada was "concerned"
about some of the positions that Italy was taking in terms of LGBTQ+
rights.

(Additional reporting by Alvise Armellini, editing by Frank Jack Daniel)

https://news.yahoo.com/italian-prosecutor-demands-cancellation-birth-
121738967.html

Justin Trudeau can go fuck himself.

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