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* Conversational feedbackEd Cryer
`* Re: Conversational feedbackt400ec
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From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
Newsgroups: alt.language.latin
Subject: Conversational feedback
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 21:18:15 +0000
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 by: Ed Cryer - Wed, 17 Jan 2024 21:18 UTC

Hello. I'd like to book a taxi for tomorrow.
What time and where from?
2-00 pm from No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
Where are you going?
Dripfold Medical Practice, up on Sprout Lane.
(clatter of keyboards down the line)
...........................
Hello. Can you hear me?
Yes, ok.
So ,then, 2-00pm tomorrow, going to Randall Road.

No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the phone-guy
to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.
And that's generally replaced the human feedback situation.

Hello. Do you have any Freshwood aftershave?
(clatter of keyboard)
Yes. Several bottles in stock.
Save two of them for me.
Name and address?
No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
(clatter of keys)
(Silence)
Hello. Can you hear me?

No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the phone-guy
to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.

What's gone wrong here? The computer has replaced me. And it's become
more important than me.

Ed

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From: emi...@usinternet.com (t400ec)
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Subject: Re: Conversational feedback
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 by: t400ec - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:17 UTC

I seem to remember one of Oscar Wilde's quips:

As to living our lives, can't our servants do that for us?

Anyway, if you steadfastly refuse to believe in AI, then no machine can
become more important than you. Also, maybe you were talking to a bot.
The clicking of keys might have been just audio wallpaper. After the bot
prompted you with "Name and address?" it might have entered "No 8 Flying
Court" as your name. Remember and ponder the fact that Weizenbaum's
secretary thought that the Eliza program passed the Turing test 50 years
ago. That program might have been 100 lines long...

b.t.

On 1/17/2024 15:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Hello. I'd like to book a taxi for tomorrow.
> What time and where from?
> 2-00 pm from No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
> Where are you going?
> Dripfold Medical Practice, up on Sprout Lane.
> (clatter of keyboards down the line)
> ..........................
> Hello. Can you hear me?
> Yes, ok.
> So ,then, 2-00pm tomorrow, going to Randall Road.
>
> No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the phone-guy
> to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.
> And that's generally replaced the human feedback situation.
>
> Hello. Do you have any Freshwood aftershave?
> (clatter of keyboard)
> Yes. Several bottles in stock.
> Save two of them for me.
> Name and address?
> No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
> (clatter of keys)
> (Silence)
> Hello. Can you hear me?
>
> No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the phone-guy
> to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.
>
> What's gone wrong here? The computer has replaced me. And it's become
> more important than me.
>
> Ed
>
>

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From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
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Subject: Re: Conversational feedback
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 by: Ed Cryer - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 16:19 UTC

t400ec wrote:
> I seem to remember one of Oscar Wilde's quips:
>
> As to living our lives, can't our servants do that for us?
>
> Anyway, if you steadfastly refuse to believe in AI, then no machine can
> become more important than you. Also, maybe you were talking to a bot.
> The clicking of keys might have been just audio wallpaper. After the bot
> prompted you with "Name and address?" it might have entered "No 8 Flying
> Court" as your name. Remember and ponder the fact that Weizenbaum's
> secretary thought that the Eliza program passed the Turing test 50 years
> ago. That program might have been 100 lines long...
>
> b.t.
>
> On 1/17/2024 15:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Hello. I'd like to book a taxi for tomorrow.
>> What time and where from?
>> 2-00 pm from No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
>> Where are you going?
>> Dripfold Medical Practice, up on Sprout Lane.
>> (clatter of keyboards down the line)
>> ..........................
>> Hello. Can you hear me?
>> Yes, ok.
>> So ,then, 2-00pm tomorrow, going to Randall Road.
>>
>> No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the
>> phone-guy to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.
>> And that's generally replaced the human feedback situation.
>>
>> Hello. Do you have any Freshwood aftershave?
>> (clatter of keyboard)
>> Yes. Several bottles in stock.
>> Save two of them for me.
>> Name and address?
>> No 8 Flying Court, Randall Road.
>> (clatter of keys)
>> (Silence)
>> Hello. Can you hear me?
>>
>> No feedback I had to give it myself. I would have expected the
>> phone-guy to give it, but he was involved with his keyboard.
>>
>> What's gone wrong here? The computer has replaced me. And it's become
>> more important than me.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>

Our phones have just gone digital. BT supplied us with new broadband
routers, and we all unplugged phones from the phone socket and into the
special router socket.
The female voice used on their enquiries number has deteriorated to a
standard that would have appeared obsolete in the 1980s.

Your Oscar Wilde quote reminded me of another that's very famous here in
the UK.
In 1960 there was an obscene publications prosecution of "Lady
Chatterley's Lover". It failed, but the prosecuting QC came out with
"Would you wish your wife or servants to read this book?"

Ed

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