On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-5, John W Kennedy wrote:
> On 2016-01-30 21:25:49 +0000, news.jo...@gmail.com said:
> > The derogatory term for a "male homosexual," 1914, is probably from
> > the earlier use for an old heretical woman, and a reference to the
> > "flaming faggots" (homosexuals were also burned at the stake)."
> Stop calling yourself "news.journalism". Use "rubbish.internet.rumors" instead.
>
> --
> John W Kennedy
> "The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything...."
> -- Emile Cammaerts, "The Laughing Prophet"
This is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the etymologist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:

"In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus, the word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot (British)) as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr. Curry) and via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces" and "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a hard letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound or /s/).

In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning. Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of the socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in North Korea, et cetera.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:08:06 AM UTC-4, Ian Tinny wrote:
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-5, John W Kennedy wrote:
> > On 2016-01-30 21:25:49 +0000, news.jo...@gmail.com said:
> > > The derogatory term for a "male homosexual," 1914, is probably from
> > > the earlier use for an old heretical woman, and a reference to the
> > > "flaming faggots" (homosexuals were also burned at the stake)."
> > Stop calling yourself "news.journalism". Use "rubbish.internet.rumors" instead.
> >
> > --
> > John W Kennedy
> > "The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything...."
> > -- Emile Cammaerts, "The Laughing Prophet"
> This is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the etymologist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:
>
> "In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus, the word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot (British)) as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr. Curry) and via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces" and "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a hard letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound or /s/).
>
> In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning. Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
> Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of the socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in North Korea, et cetera.
Dr. Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -

“The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg Sutton
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/

“Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-called “swastika” symbol was used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under Hitler.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/

"…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/

Here is a new definition of capitalism -
Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.

Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as the solution. Have a nice day!

Daniel Ruth wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:08:06 AM UTC-4, Ian Tinny wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-5, John W Kennedy wrote:
>>> On 2016-01-30 21:25:49 +0000, news.jo...@gmail.com said:
>>>> The derogatory term for a "male homosexual," 1914, is probably from
>>>> the earlier use for an old heretical woman, and a reference to the
>>>> "flaming faggots" (homosexuals were also burned at the stake)."
>>> Stop calling yourself "news.journalism". Use "rubbish.internet.rumors" instead.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John W Kennedy
>>> "The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything...."
>>> -- Emile Cammaerts, "The Laughing Prophet"
>> This is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the etymologist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:
>>
>> "In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus, the word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot (British)) as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr. Curry) and via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces" and "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a hard letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound or /s/).
>>
>> In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning. Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
>> Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of the socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in North Korea, et cetera.
> Dr. Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -
>
> “The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg Sutton
> https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/
>
> “Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-called “swastika” symbol was used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under Hitler.”
> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/
>
> "…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/
>
> Here is a new definition of capitalism -
> Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.
>
> Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as the solution. Have a nice day!
In the UK nobody uses "faggot" to mean gay. We have other derogative terms.
How it arose in the USA, my best guess is from the "fagging" systems of
old English public schools.
Research that.
Ed

Eduardus Edo de origine vocabuli sermonis trivialis Americani disserens,
salute. plurima. dici.:
Scripsisti: "Hoc investigato." Quod feci.
vale
Here's the clear dope and skinny on 'faggot' from the world capital of
English etymology in Minnesota( it's from 'pimp'):
https://blog.oup.com/2007/06/part_two/
On fasces, secures (neckaxes) don't be confused by historicasters. For
the Roman lictors, this was a kind of portable threshing machine cum
guillotine. If an uppity plebs wasn't convinced by being nearly beaten
to death then the 'persuader' could be unpacked from the middle of the
bundle.
vetted and therefore eminently believable articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_D%27Annunzio
b.t.

On 1/29/2024 14:27, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Daniel Ruth wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:08:06 AM UTC-4, Ian Tinny wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-5, John W Kennedy wrote:
>>>> On 2016-01-30 21:25:49 +0000, news.jo...@gmail.com said:
>>>>> The derogatory term for a "male homosexual," 1914, is probably from
>>>>> the earlier use for an old heretical woman, and a reference to the
>>>>> "flaming faggots" (homosexuals were also burned at the stake)."
>>>> Stop calling yourself "news.journalism". Use
>>>> "rubbish.internet.rumors" instead.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John W Kennedy
>>>> "The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in
>>>> anything...."
>>>> -- Emile Cammaerts, "The Laughing Prophet"
>>> This is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the
>>> Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the etymologist
>>> Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:
>>>
>>> "In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound
>>> together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus, the
>>> word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot (British))
>>> as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr. Curry) and
>>> via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces" and
>>> "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a hard
>>> letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound or /s/).
>>>
>>> In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase
>>> "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning.
>>> Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot
>>> on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
>>> Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early
>>> "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of the
>>> socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in North
>>> Korea, et cetera.
>> Dr. Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew
>> Rockwell's site -
>>
>> “The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many
>> disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg Sutton
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/
>>
>> “Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including
>> (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of
>> the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under
>> Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-called “swastika” symbol was
>> used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under Hitler.”
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/
>>
>> "…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who
>> defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our
>> Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to
>> detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so
>> that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades.
>> That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach
>> humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/
>>
>> Here is a new definition of capitalism -
>> Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and
>> socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its
>> economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.
>>
>> Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the
>> robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet
>> everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism
>> as the solution. Have a nice day!
>
> In the UK nobody uses "faggot" to mean gay. We have other derogative terms.
> How it arose in the USA, my best guess is from the "fagging" systems of
> old English public schools.
> Research that.
>
> Ed
>
>

t400ec wrote:
> Eduardus Edo de origine vocabuli sermonis trivialis Americani disserens,
> salute. plurima. dici.:
>
> Scripsisti: "Hoc investigato." Quod feci.
>
> vale
>
> Here's the clear dope and skinny on 'faggot' from the world capital of
> English etymology in Minnesota( it's from 'pimp'):
>
> https://blog.oup.com/2007/06/part_two/
>
> On fasces, secures (neckaxes) don't be confused by historicasters. For
> the Roman lictors, this was a kind of portable threshing machine cum
> guillotine. If an uppity plebs wasn't convinced by being nearly beaten
> to death then the 'persuader' could be unpacked from the middle of the
> bundle.
>
> vetted and therefore eminently believable articles:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_D%27Annunzio
>
> b.t.
>
>
> On 1/29/2024 14:27, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Daniel Ruth wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:08:06 AM UTC-4, Ian Tinny wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-5, John W Kennedy wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-01-30 21:25:49 +0000, news.jo...@gmail.com said:
>>>>>> The derogatory term for a "male homosexual," 1914, is probably from
>>>>>> the earlier use for an old heretical woman, and a reference to the
>>>>>> "flaming faggots" (homosexuals were also burned at the stake)."
>>>>> Stop calling yourself "news.journalism". Use
>>>>> "rubbish.internet.rumors" instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John W Kennedy
>>>>> "The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in
>>>>> anything...."
>>>>> -- Emile Cammaerts, "The Laughing Prophet"
>>>> This is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the
>>>> Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the
>>>> etymologist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:
>>>>
>>>> "In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound
>>>> together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus,
>>>> the word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot
>>>> (British)) as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr.
>>>> Curry) and via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces"
>>>> and "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a
>>>> hard letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound
>>>> or /s/).
>>>>
>>>> In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase
>>>> "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning.
>>>> Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot
>>>> on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
>>>> Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early
>>>> "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of
>>>> the socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in
>>>> North Korea, et cetera.
>>> Dr. Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for
>>> Lew Rockwell's site -
>>>
>>> “The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many
>>> disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg
>>> Sutton
>>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/
>>>
>>> “Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries
>>> including (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the
>>> origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany
>>> under Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-called “swastika”
>>> symbol was used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under
>>> Hitler.”
>>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/
>>>
>>> "…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who
>>> defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our
>>> Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to
>>> detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so
>>> that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades.
>>> That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach
>>> humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
>>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/
>>>
>>> Here is a new definition of capitalism -
>>> Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and
>>> socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and
>>> its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.
>>>
>>> Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the
>>> robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet
>>> everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism
>>> as the solution. Have a nice day!
>>
>> In the UK nobody uses "faggot" to mean gay. We have other derogative
>> terms.
>> How it arose in the USA, my best guess is from the "fagging" systems
>> of old English public schools.
>> Research that.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
Your opinion of fasces and lictors might well hold true. In one of his
letters Cicero complains how twelve of them had to accompany him
everywhere while he held "imperium". And those rods and axe screamed
punishment. And the lictors were chosen for size and powerfulness.
Imagine a consul coming down from the Palatine in the morning into the
Forum. You'd hear them coming, and you'd just have to get out of their
way. Authority making itself heard and seen. "Make way, make way; consul
of Rome coming through".
But how does all that relate to sexual orientation? Were they all gay? I
doubt it.
All that speaks power and authority. Whereas "faggot" shouts depowered.
On the other hand, the fags of Eton were almost slaves to their elders.
Ed

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Ed