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Are universities in mainland China indeed rising to challenge the top Western universities such as Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, MIT, etc.? If so, why aren’t the best PhD/DPhil students and faculty around the world flocking to Chinese universities?

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Joseph Wang
MIT '91, UTAustin Ph.D. '98Dec 6
Are universities in mainland China indeed rising to challenge the top Western universities such as Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, MIT, etc.? If so, why aren’t the best PhD/DPhil students and faculty around the world flocking to Chinese universities?
Qinghua and Beijing University are at the level of Harvard and MIT. I'm seeing good stuff coming out of places, like Harbin, Sun Yat-Sen University, and Shantong.

The key thing is not the top unis but to have a deep bench of middle tier universities. The other thing is that you are less interested in top students than lots of middle students.

As far as why people aren't moving in. You have more than enough local students to fill faculty positions and the culture and language are very different. And then there is a matter of building an ecosystem.

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