MSM propaganda:

https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
-for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
ocid=sapphireappshare
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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> MSM propaganda:
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> ocid=sapphireappshare
> --

===

Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> MSM propaganda:
>>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>> ocid=sapphireappshare
>> --
>
>===
>
>Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
we know it.
The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
..

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >> MSM propaganda:
> >>
> >> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> >> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> >> ocid=sapphireappshare
> >> --
> >
> >===
> >
> >Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
> we know it.
> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
> .

===

The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>> MSM propaganda:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
>>>> --
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
>>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
>>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
>>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
>> we know it.
>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
>> .
>
> ===
>
> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
> taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
>
2 different items.
Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!

Election fraud?
Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
here and we’re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
ID? Don’t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >>>> MSM propaganda:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
> >>>> --
> >>>
> >>> ===
> >>>
> >>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
> >>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
> >>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
> >>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
> >> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
> >> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
> >> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
> >> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
> >> we know it.
> >> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
> >> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
> >> .
> >
> > ===
> >
> > The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
> > taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
> >
> 2 different items.
> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
>
> Election fraud?
> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
> here and we’re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
> ID? Don’t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.

==
I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>>>> MSM propaganda:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>>>>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>>>>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
>>>>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
>>>>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
>>>>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>>>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
>>>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
>>>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
>>>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
>>>> we know it.
>>>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
>>>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
>>>> .
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
>>> taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
>>>
>> 2 different items.
>> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
>> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
>> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
>>
>> Election fraud?
>> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
>> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
>> here and were told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
>> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
>> ID? Dont give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
>> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.
>
> ==
> I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there
> is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the
> 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in
> the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.
>

Whom is doing the studies? Seems as if local newspapers have found lots of
easy to find fraud. Look how much the Democrats have fought purging
election roles. Maybe make everyone reregister. My 95 year old mother
got mail in ballots for a couple years after she passed. Maybe connect the
voter registration to the SS system, so is automatically purged when death
is reported.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:18:38 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
> > "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> > >> MSM propaganda:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> > >> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> > >> ocid=sapphireappshare
> > >> --
> > >
> > >===
> > >
> > >Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
> > The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
> > policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
> > will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
> > would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
> > we know it.
> > The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
> > about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
> > .
> ===
>
> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.

"Lowest common denominator"? There's that left and right coast liberal elite talk again. Can't change your stripes, and taking your cues from the left wing media and Sleepy Joe.

News flash for you. There's a huge percentage of what you think are Trump followers that don't think he should be POTUS again. They do, however, believe his policies were very good for our country, and that the liberals are taking our country in a completely wrong and destructive direction.

Modern day liberals want to turn this country into a plutocracy in which the liberal elite control the government, and stay in power through the enslavement of the people through re-distribution of everyone's wealth, except their own. Opening the borders, making it easier to cast illegal votes, creating give-away programs that are paid for by the hard working Americans in order to buy votes, just to name a few. The MSM is in collusion, as are the universities that only allow liberal thinking and instruction. The college loan give-away is just another example of pushing their liberal educational agenda and it's on the backs of the workers that evidently aren't good enough to receive the same kind of financial relief. Oh yes, they are the "lowest common denominator", eh? They don't deserve it, as they don't vote for the liberals. Give it to the young entitled liberal voters and they'll be your voting base forever, along with the *illegal* immigrants that they are letting flow freely over our borders!

The liberal emperor you worship has no clothes.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:52:06 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> >> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
> >>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >>>>>> MSM propaganda:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> >>>>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> >>>>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ===
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
> >>>>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
> >>>>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
> >>>>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
> >>>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
> >>>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
> >>>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
> >>>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
> >>>> we know it.
> >>>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
> >>>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns..
> >>>> .
> >>>
> >>> ===
> >>>
> >>> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
> >>> taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
> >>>
> >> 2 different items.
> >> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
> >> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
> >> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
> >>
> >> Election fraud?
> >> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
> >> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
> >> here and we re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
> >> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
> >> ID? Don t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
> >> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.
> >
> > => > I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there
> > is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the
> > 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in
> > the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.
> >
> Whom is doing the studies? Seems as if local newspapers have found lots of
> easy to find fraud. Look how much the Democrats have fought purging
> election roles. Maybe make everyone reregister. My 95 year old mother
> got mail in ballots for a couple years after she passed. Maybe connect the
> voter registration to the SS system, so is automatically purged when death
> is reported.

They always use the term "widespread" when claiming no fraud. What constitutes widespread? Is enough to turn a couple of swing states considered widespread, or is that just limited fraud? Of course, you know the studies are done by liberal university think-tanks. Or as you nailed it, propaganda.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:58:34 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:52:06 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> > waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> > >> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> > >>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
> > >>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> > >>>>>> MSM propaganda:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
> > >>>>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
> > >>>>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ===
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
> > >>>>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
> > >>>>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
> > >>>>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
> > >>>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
> > >>>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
> > >>>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
> > >>>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
> > >>>> we know it.
> > >>>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
> > >>>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
> > >>>> .
> > >>>
> > >>> ===
> > >>>
> > >>> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
> > >>> taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
> > >>>
> > >> 2 different items.
> > >> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
> > >> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
> > >> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
> > >>
> > >> Election fraud?
> > >> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
> > >> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
> > >> here and we re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
> > >> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
> > >> ID? Don t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
> > >> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.
> > >
> > > ==
> > > I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there
> > > is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the
> > > 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in
> > > the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.
> > >
> > Whom is doing the studies? Seems as if local newspapers have found lots of
> > easy to find fraud. Look how much the Democrats have fought purging
> > election roles. Maybe make everyone reregister. My 95 year old mother
> > got mail in ballots for a couple years after she passed. Maybe connect the
> > voter registration to the SS system, so is automatically purged when death
> > is reported.
> They always use the term "widespread" when claiming no fraud. What constitutes widespread? Is enough to turn a couple of swing states considered widespread, or is that just limited fraud? Of course, you know the studies are done by liberal university think-tanks. Or as you nailed it, propaganda.

==
Everyone of the 2020 swing states where Trump claimed fraud were investigated by local officials in those states, many of them Republicans. They tried to do their job thoroughly and conscientiously, and were derided by Trump for their efforts. Georgia is a good case in point where Republican Brad Raffenburg repeatedly told Trump that no evidence of fraud or error had been found, but Trump insisted that he try to "find" the 10,000 votes needed to swing Georgia's electoral count. This is not MSM fake news - the calls were recorded and Trump's message is loud and clear.

"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry > -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? > ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> Wrote in message:r
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry > -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? > ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>
> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)
> --

==
With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry, dubious accomplishment however. :-)

We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats..

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:58:34 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:52:06 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MSM propaganda:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>>>>>>>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>>>>>>>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
>>>>>>>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
>>>>>>>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
>>>>>>>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>>>>>>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
>>>>>>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
>>>>>>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
>>>>>>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
>>>>>>> we know it.
>>>>>>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
>>>>>>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
>>>>>> taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest
>>>>>> common denominator.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 2 different items.
>>>>> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
>>>>> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
>>>>> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
>>>>>
>>>>> Election fraud?
>>>>> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
>>>>> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
>>>>> here and we re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
>>>>> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
>>>>> ID? Don t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
>>>>> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>> I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there
>>>> is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the
>>>> 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in
>>>> the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.
>>>>
>>> Whom is doing the studies? Seems as if local newspapers have found lots of
>>> easy to find fraud. Look how much the Democrats have fought purging
>>> election roles. Maybe make everyone reregister. My 95 year old mother
>>> got mail in ballots for a couple years after she passed. Maybe connect the
>>> voter registration to the SS system, so is automatically purged when death
>>> is reported.
>> They always use the term "widespread" when claiming no fraud. What
>> constitutes widespread? Is enough to turn a couple of swing states
>> considered widespread, or is that just limited fraud? Of course, you
>> know the studies are done by liberal university think-tanks. Or as you
>> nailed it, propaganda.
>
> ==
> Everyone of the 2020 swing states where Trump claimed fraud were
> investigated by local officials in those states, many of them
> Republicans. They tried to do their job thoroughly and conscientiously,
> and were derided by Trump for their efforts. Georgia is a good case in
> point where Republican Brad Raffenburg repeatedly told Trump that no
> evidence of fraud or error had been found, but Trump insisted that he try
> to "find" the 10,000 votes needed to swing Georgia's electoral count.
> This is not MSM fake news - the calls were recorded and Trump's message is loud and clear.
>

10,000 votes swing an election? Does not require wide spread fraud! JFK
won election via one state. And one area of that state. Chicago.

"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry > -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? > ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. > > WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)> -- ===With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry, dubious accomplishment however. :-) We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.

We got a taste of good government then Biden happened. I'd be
pleased as punch if a moderate Republican took over where Trump
left off and get this country back on track to a healthy
condition. We have seen what radical left wingers can do to trash
what Americans value. We need to be smarter about choosing who we
let run our country. We need to put petty personality choices
aside and concentrate on weeding out the empty suits, destructive
idealogues, and greedy opportunists.
Don't let those crafty democrats continue to distract your
attention from their destructive practices.
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waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> Wrote in message:r
>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM
>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >
>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >
>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen
>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot
>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play
>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>>
>> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)
>> --
>
> ==
> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,
> dubious accomplishment however. :-)
>
> We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the
> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to
> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle
> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in
> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.
>

Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of any
party. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers.
Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitan
areas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support a
moderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people reject
teaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sex
habits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judges
who vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowing
most crimes to not be prosecuted.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 09:18:36 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> >> MSM propaganda:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>> >> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>> >> ocid=sapphireappshare
>> >> --
>> >
>> >===
>> >
>> >Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
>> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
>> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
>> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
>> we know it.
>> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
>> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
>> .
>
>===
>
>The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.

The way to get rid of Trump is to come up with a better candidate. It
certainly isn't Biden. There are perhaps a thousand better people than
either of them in this country.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> >>>> MSM propaganda:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry
>> >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry?
>> >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare
>> >>>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> ===
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone who believes that "It can't happen here" should take a close
>> >>> look at German history from the 1930s. A lot of the same political
>> >>> forces that were in play there are also in play here. It would be
>> >>> tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us.
>> >> The situation here is not really the same yet but if this loose fiscal
>> >> policy crashes the economy, it could be. The major difference is we
>> >> will never have a global war of attrition again and if we did, China
>> >> would win. We would nuke them first and probably end civilization as
>> >> we know it.
>> >> The stakes are certainly high and the only thing anyone wants to talk
>> >> about seriously when they make voting decisions is abortion and guns.
>> >> .
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> > The stakes are very high, and a large percentage of the population are
>> > taking direction from a wannabe dictator who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
>> >
>> 2 different items.
>> Insurrection? A couple hundred people demonstrating and only gunfire is a
>> Capo shooting an unarmed fat white women. Where was the security? It is
>> always out in force for any demonstration! Nancy wanted an event!
>>
>> Election fraud?
>> Needs to be addressed! Chicago has always voted dead people. Towns with
>> more registered voters than population. We had people show up to vote
>> here and we’re told they already voted. Mayor of a far Northern California
>> town voted there and in southern Oregon. No real penalty! Why not voter
>> ID? Don’t give me the crap it is a hardship for poor people. They need ID
>> to collect welfare, go to the doctor, etc.
>
>===
>
>I agree that voter ID should be enacted. Studies have shown that there is no widespread fraud however - nothing that would have impacted the 2020 election results. Trump knew by mid-summer that he was behind in the polls and started his campaign to cast doubt on the electoral process.

You can't ignore the fact that our mediocre local NBC news station
found 20 illegal voters here just trying to fill 2 minutes of air
time. They probably spent 3 or 4 total hours on it. It proves nobody
has ever really looked.

The assumption seems to be both sides commit fraud and it all comes
out even.
Remember changing 268 votes would chosen a different president in
2000 tho.

It reminds my of football where nobody pays much attention to where
the ball is spotted until it is close to a first down and then they
drag out chain and pretend this was precision.

My Son received 6 ballots in the mail. He did not request any ballots and voted in person. Fraud, I guess we each have to decide if there was or was not.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 21:36:44 -0700 (PDT), Richard Grew
<rgrew176@gmail.com> wrote:

>My Son received 6 ballots in the mail. He did not request any ballots and voted in person. Fraud, I guess we each have to decide if there was or was not.

I think it is mostly government incompetence and laziness more than
fraud.
OTOH when they do try to clean up the voter rolls they get accused of
voter suppression.

Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become
lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted.

I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president
in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a
matter of time.:-)
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On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 10:19:40 UTC-3, justan wrote:
> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted.
>
> I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president
> in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a
> matter of time.:-)
> --
> Lets go Brandon....
>
>
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I'm waiting for y'all to ease up on the recreational drugs. You're starting to make Kalif Swill look like a teatotaler.

True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 10:19:40 UTC-3, justan wrote:> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free
stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted. > > I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president > in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a > matter of time.:-)> -- > Lets go Brandon.... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI'm waiting for y'all to ease up on the recreational drugs. You're starting to make Kalif Swill look like a tea
totaler.

Well if it isn't Donnie, the boy with persistant brain freeze.
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On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted.
>
> I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president
> in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a
> matter of time.:-)
> --
>

==
Don't hold your breath too long. It can cause cognitive impairment.

It's important to remember that Mussolini made the trains run on time.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:09:29 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 10:19:40 UTC-3, justan wrote:> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER..:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the> country). Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted. > > I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president > in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a > matter of time.:-)> -- > Lets go Brandon.... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI'm waiting for y'all to ease up on the recreational drugs. You're starting to make Kalif Swill look like a teatotaler.
>
> Well if it isn't Donnie, the boy with persistant brain freeze.
> --
> Lets go Brandon....
It's probably that extra-strong canuck brew and whatever he lights up in the pipe bowl.
After all, he's from the land of smoking that shit on the city street corners, during the day, right out in the open. Been there, saw it with my own eyes.

On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:19:39 -0400 (EDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

>Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> MSM>>> propaganda: > > https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/why-election-experts-worry >>>> -for-american-democracy-and-what-they-say-can-be-done/ar-AA11w2ry? >>>> ocid=sapphireappshare > -- ===Anyone who believes that "It can't happen>>> here" should take a close look at German history from the 1930s. A lot>>> of the same political forces that were in play there are also in play>>> here. It would be tragic if we allowed the same thing to happen to us. >> >> WOW! THE HOOK BARELY TOUCHED THE WATER.:-)>> -- > > ==> With some practice you could become almost as good at trolling as Harry,> dubious accomplishment however. :-) > > We need to learn some subtle distinctions here (and in the rest of the>
country).
>Not everyone who opposes Trump is a radical liberal looking to> deplete the treasury with "free stuff" giveaways. There's this middle> ground called a moderate/conservative Republican who has become lost in> the noise. Good government has noting to do with waving guns, flags and making threats.> Good government also means not marginalizing moderate/conservatives of anyparty. Not calling 74 million people in the flyover ignorant goobers. Not trying to eliminate the electoral college so two major metropolitanareas can control government. Not censorship of schools who support amoderate agenda. Not ignoring that a majority of the people rejectteaching sex education to k-3 children and that what was once marginal sexhabits are normal. Not trying to expand the SCOTUS so they can get judgeswho vote their ideology instead of the lawful constitution. Not allowingmost crimes to not be prosecuted.
>
> I'm waiting for Wayne to admit that Trump was the best president
> in decades. If he's as smart as I suspect he is, it's just a
> matter of time.:-)

They do have a hard time finding things that went wrong during Trump's
term.
The main thing I hear is he was mean to the feckless Europeans but
those deadbeats deserve it.
I have been saying NATO was an obsolete relic of the cold war for
years and we are seeing it play out in Ukraine. The big bad Russians
are getting their ass handed to them by Ukraine. It just came out that
they have to buy artillery shells from N Korea because they can't make
enough themselves. The idea that they would roll through the Fulda Gap
and take a nuclear armed Europe is ludicrous.

I was happy with how the economy ran, we tried to get some control of
the border. It is amusing that after all the bullshit, Biden is
continuing building the wall. The Covid response was as good as anyone
else and better than the lock down mentality of some places.
It was the first time since Carter that we were not in a new war or
escalating an existing one.
I lived through LBJ, Nixon, Clinton and a couple Bushes. Finding out a
president is rude and obnoxious is not shocking to me. Trump was just
more frank about it.