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* WesolychHreczecha
+- Re: WesolychBasia
+- Re: WesolychRusset Bulba
+- Re: Wesolychandal
`* Re: WesolychAlojzy Gąska
 `* Re: WesolychRusset Bulba
  `* Re: Wesolychalojzy nieborak
   `- Re: WesolychRusset Bulba

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 by: Hreczecha - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 05:55 UTC

i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa

I do tego koleda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD0Yv4JQgZc

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 by: Basia - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:43 UTC

On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 9:55:58 PM UTC-8, Hreczecha wrote:
> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
>
> I do tego koleda:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD0Yv4JQgZc

Koleda na klenzmerska nute i tempo,
....mozna i tak. Slucham spowolniona
x0.85, niezla.

Dzieki i nawzajem Wesolych Swiat.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

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 by: Russet Bulba - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 13:38 UTC

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 1:55:58 AM UTC-4, Hreczecha wrote:
> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
>
> I do tego koleda:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD0Yv4JQgZc

Dzieki i wzajemnie, panie Jozku.

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 by: andal - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:24 UTC

On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 21:55:56 -0800 (PST), Hreczecha wrote:

> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
>
> I do tego koleda:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD0Yv4JQgZc

wzajemnie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGL8cxgtLHI

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Subject: Re: Wesolych
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Hreczecha napisał(a):
> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa

https://m.demotywatory.pl/5228088

Więcej zgody na 2024.

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 by: Russet Bulba - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:25 UTC

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 11:41:10 AM UTC-4, Alojzy Gąska wrote:
> Hreczecha napisał(a):
> > i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
> https://m.demotywatory.pl/5228088
>
> Więcej zgody na 2024.

Prawie niesposob w demokratycznym systemie parlamentarnym z uwagi na jego organiczna niestabilnosc i dynamike w sytuacji braku powaznego zewnetrznego zagrozenia dla ukladu. Czyli niezgoda jest fundamentem systemu i kwestia jak utrzymac efektywnosc w sytuacji nieustannej niezgody. I na takie techniczne rozwiazanie co najwyzej mozna liczyc.

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 by: alojzy nieborak - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:53 UTC

W dniu 2023-12-25 o 17:25, Russet Bulba pisze:
> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 11:41:10 AM UTC-4, Alojzy Gąska wrote:
>> Hreczecha napisał(a):
>>> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
>> https://m.demotywatory.pl/5228088
>>
>> Więcej zgody na 2024.
>
>
> Prawie niesposob w demokratycznym systemie parlamentarnym z uwagi na jego organiczna niestabilnosc i dynamike w sytuacji braku powaznego zewnetrznego zagrozenia dla ukladu.

Dlatego tak sądzę przyszłość należy do państw niedemokratycznych.
Ciężko uznać małpiarnię za normalny stan rzeczy.

> Czyli niezgoda jest fundamentem systemu i kwestia jak utrzymac
> efektywnosc w sytuacji nieustannej niezgody. I na takie techniczne
> rozwiazanie co najwyzej mozna liczyc.

Można rozstrzelać rocznie 1000 urzędników jak w chinach i wtedy reszta
nauczy się robić to za co bierze pieniądze.

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 by: Russet Bulba - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 17:33 UTC

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 12:53:56 PM UTC-4, alojzy nieborak wrote:
> W dniu 2023-12-25 o 17:25, Russet Bulba pisze:
> > On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 11:41:10 AM UTC-4, Alojzy Gąska wrote:
> >> Hreczecha napisał(a):
> >>> i spokojnych Swiat zyczy siepowiczekom i sciepowiczoom Jozek Figa
> >> https://m.demotywatory.pl/5228088
> >>
> >> Więcej zgody na 2024.
> >
> >
> > Prawie niesposob w demokratycznym systemie parlamentarnym z uwagi na jego organiczna niestabilnosc i dynamike w sytuacji braku powaznego zewnetrznego zagrozenia dla ukladu.
> Dlatego tak sądzę przyszłość należy do państw niedemokratycznych.
> Ciężko uznać małpiarnię za normalny stan rzeczy.
> > Czyli niezgoda jest fundamentem systemu i kwestia jak utrzymac
> > efektywnosc w sytuacji nieustannej niezgody. I na takie techniczne
> > rozwiazanie co najwyzej mozna liczyc.
> Można rozstrzelać rocznie 1000 urzędników jak w chinach i wtedy reszta
> nauczy się robić to za co bierze pieniądze.

Przyszlosc jest niezwykle trudna do odgadniecia i nie nalezy do kogokolwiek.. Dyktatury maja swoje krotkoterminowe zalety i dlugoterminowe wady. Ich problemem jest brak samokorekty i spietrzanie sie systemowych problemow. Demokracje to bardziej jak zawor Watta trzymajacy system miedzy gornym a dolnym limitem kontroli. Glosny lecz w miare sprawny. Zagrozeniem dla liberalnych demokracji sa masowe migracje wprowadzajace cala mase nowych problemow do rozwiazywania i obnizajsce wspolny mianownik satysfakcjunojacych rozwiazan. Wowczas dyktatura czy tez system autorytatywny narzucajacy swoje rozwiazania moze byc efektywniejszym, gdy alternatywa jest gleboka polaryzacja i totalne rozbicie spoleczne.

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