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Na Sobote... intuicyjnie i dla p.Zalka

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Subject: Na Sobote... intuicyjnie i dla p.Zalka
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 by: Basia - Sat, 3 Feb 2024 00:44 UTC

Could a Giant Parasol in Outer Space Help Solve the Climate Crisis?

The idea is to create a huge sunshade and send it to a far away point between the Earth and the sun to block a small but crucial amount of solar radiation, enough to counter global warming.

Now scientists led by Yoram Rozen, a physics professor and the director of the Asher Space Research Institute at Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, say they are ready to build a prototype shade to show that the idea will work (...)

Rozen said his team was ready to design a prototype shade of 100 square feet and is seeking between $10 million and $20 million to fund the demonstration.

“We can show the world, ‘Look, there is a working solution, take it, increase it to the necessary size,” he said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-giant-parasol-outer-space-125214753.html

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 by: Russet Bulba - Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:30 UTC

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 8:44:46 PM UTC-4, Basia wrote:
> Could a Giant Parasol in Outer Space Help Solve the Climate Crisis?
>
> The idea is to create a huge sunshade and send it to a far away point between the Earth and the sun to block a small but crucial amount of solar radiation, enough to counter global warming.
>
> Now scientists led by Yoram Rozen, a physics professor and the director of the Asher Space Research Institute at Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, say they are ready to build a prototype shade to show that the idea will work (...)
>
> Rozen said his team was ready to design a prototype shade of 100 square feet and is seeking between $10 million and $20 million to fund the demonstration.
>
> “We can show the world, ‘Look, there is a working solution, take it, increase it to the necessary size,” he said.
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-giant-parasol-outer-space-125214753.html

Pan Czesiu by sie nadal do tego projektu ale niestety jest juz RiP.

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 by: Russet Bulba - Sat, 3 Feb 2024 13:41 UTC

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, brat_olin wrote:
> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 1:44:46 AM UTC+1, Basia wrote:
> > Could a Giant Parasol in Outer Space Help Solve the Climate Crisis?
> >
> > The idea is to create a huge sunshade and send it to a far away point between the Earth and the sun to block a small but crucial amount of solar radiation, enough to counter global warming.
> >
> > Now scientists led by Yoram Rozen, a physics professor and the director of the Asher Space Research Institute at Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, say they are ready to build a prototype shade to show that the idea will work (...)
> >
> > Rozen said his team was ready to design a prototype shade of 100 square feet and is seeking between $10 million and $20 million to fund the demonstration.
> >
> > “We can show the world, ‘Look, there is a working solution, take it, increase it to the necessary size,” he said.
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-giant-parasol-outer-space-125214753.html
> >
> Wystarczy kupic normalny parasol za 5 zl, i zmierzyc temp. pod i bez
> parasola na powierzchni ca. 2 m kwadratowych. A potem - ekstrapolowac!
> A ci chca 20 milionow dolcow..
>
> --
> Smart questions to stupid answers

Ekstrapoluje sie tylko na milionach km2 oceanow czy Antarktydy. Taki eksperyment wymaga specjalnych urzadzen i specjalnych pomiarow. Tak mozna w nieskonczonosc i tak sie dzieje. Znajomy jest szefem tzw pilot plant zaprzyjaznionego uniwersytetu. Tak sie nazywa to imponujace skladowisko najrozmaitszych urzadzen pod plandeka. Bylem zainteresowany jednym. Kupili swego czasu za 250,000 dla Francuzki, ktora robila magisterke. Jedyna osoba na roku, bo juz nikt dziedzina nie zainteresowany, 1,000 dolarow za godzine wynajecia lub dalej za darmo na lata pod plandeke.

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 by: Haralampiusz Dźwię - Sat, 3 Feb 2024 13:55 UTC

sobota, 3 lutego 2024 o 14:02:31 UTC+1 brat_olin napisał(a):

> > Rozen said his team was ready to design a prototype shade of 100 square feet and is seeking between $10 million and $20 million to fund the demonstration.

Ponad milion za 1 m2 w wersji tańszej.
Ale to przecież dla klimatu, bezcennego zresztą:)

Liczyłem te 2% które mają "coś dać", wyszło mi zasłonięcie 100%
portugalii, hiszanii, francji, niemiec, czech/słowacji i białorusi.

L1 podają jakieś 1,5 mln km od ziemi, znaczy tam trza zarzucić płachtę która uszyją.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punkt_libracyjny
4x dalej niż z ziemi do księżyca. Kupa roboty.

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On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 16:44:44 -0800 (PST), Basia <abjjkst@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Could a Giant Parasol in Outer Space Help Solve the Climate Crisis?
>
>The idea is to create a huge sunshade and send it to a far away point between the Earth and the sun to block a small but crucial amount of solar radiation, enough to counter global warming.
>
>Now scientists led by Yoram Rozen, a physics professor and the director of the Asher Space Research Institute at Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, say they are ready to build a prototype shade to show that the idea will work (...)
>
>Rozen said his team was ready to design a prototype shade of 100 square feet and is seeking between $10 million and $20 million to fund the demonstration.
>
>“We can show the world, ‘Look, there is a working solution, take it, increase it to the necessary size,” he said.
>
>https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-giant-parasol-outer-space-125214753.html

O takim i innych sposobach ozimniania czytalem chyba 10 lat temu w
ksiazce "Freakonomics" by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner.
Nawiasem mowiac, doskonala ksiazka.
Gdzies kiedys czytalem ze podczas wojny wietnamskiej armia amerykanska
miala pomysl aby za pomoca satelity zaslonic slonce nad Wietnamem.

zalek

Para wodna H2O jest jedynym gazem cieplarnianym - Nagroda Nobla 2021

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 by: darius - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:25 UTC

Należy wprowadzić kary i degradować każdego za klimaktyczny bełkot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9GnFmXAAEo57_?format=jpg&name=small

W 2021 Japończyk z Princeton dostał Nagrodę Nobla z Fizyki za Cykl Obiegu Wody w atmosferze
i udowodnienie, że para wodna jest jedynym gazem cieplarnianym, który ma znaczenie.

Czyli CO2, emisje CO2 n ie mają żadnego znaczenia bo o klimacie na Ziemi decydują fluktuacje aktywności Słońca

I tutaj zdjęcie porównawcze wielkości Słońca do wielkości Ziemi.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9GnFmXAAEo57_?format=jpg&name=small

Jeden wybuch na Słońcu, wyrzut masy koronowej ma masę większa od Ziemi
i taki wyrzut to zjonizowany gaz o temperaturze milionów stopni C
\i gdy skierowany w kierunku Ziemi, wywołuje gwałtowne ocieplenie górnych warstw atmosfery, zorze polarne .

Luty 2024 był najcieplejszy od 100 lat,
bo dotarła wielka energia wyrzutów masy koronowej ze Słońca

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9GnFmXAAEo57_?format=jpg&name=small

A człowiek na ocieplenie ma taki wpływ jak mrówka na budowę piramid Egipcie, czyli żaden.

Populacja Ziemian wzrasta w wyniku wzrostu aktywności słońca
i nadejdą upały 50 st. C w Australii tak jak mrozy -50 st C. w Kanadzie,
gdyż na dalekiej północy aktywność słońca jest zredukowana w 98%

Człowiek nigdy nie ocieplił klimatu na Ziemi,
bo jego wpływ na klimat jest taki jak mrówki na budowę piramid w Egipcie

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9GnFmXAAEo57_?format=jpg&name=small

Tutaj porównawcze zdjęcie

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9GnFmXAAEo57_?format=jpg&name=small

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