It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.

The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.

By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."

On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution.

"Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.

Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states.

"Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.."

"Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."

Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state.

"I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."

Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted."

"So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "

Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."

Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in.

"Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."

Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.

The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context.

"You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."

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> It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his open
ing arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pen
nsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."

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> > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."
>
> WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY.
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Why....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 07:09:26 -0800 (PST), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> Wrote in message:r
>> > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said,
>Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a
>watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the
>hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."
>>
>> WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY.
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>> know it.
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>Why....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk?

It's because I'm a little whiney bitch!

On Wednesday, 7 December 2022 at 12:25:44 UTC-4, justan wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 07:09:26 -0800 (PST), True North
> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> >> Wrote in message:r
> >> > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said,
> >Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a
> >watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the
> >hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized.."
> >>
> >> WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY.
> >> --
> >> Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we
> >> know it.
> >>
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> >
> >Why....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk?
> It's because I'm a little whiney bitch!

I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post!
Good for you, Justine. As Dr Phil says.."you can't change what you don't acknowledge".

justan <me@here.com> wrote:
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>> It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might
>> add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former
>> Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in
>> his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became
>> combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer
>> straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics
>> case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary
>> Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election
>> results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's
>> personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New
>> York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's
>> presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no
>> factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter
>> fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the
>> Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct
>> prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox,
>> the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani
>> "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the
>> Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action
>> asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to
>> vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly
>> frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he
>> was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in
>> litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered
>> off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in
>> other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was
>> in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox
>> said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make
>> a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the
>> question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani
>> said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and
>> attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in
>> the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer
>> questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania
>> Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this
>> very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very
>> debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling
>> held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where
>> the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is
>> reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani
>> said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani,
>> I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over
>> the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr.
>> Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at
>> which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the
>> questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another
>> long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a
>> witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or
>> more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been
>> a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process
>> works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."
>
> WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY.

With all the ONLY prosecutions on many of these investigations for being
lied to the authorities, I think the smart thing is do not say anything.

True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct an
d "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."La
ter in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been
a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized." > > WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY. > -- > Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we > know it. > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk?

Donny, you have a bad habit of sticking your head in dark smelly
places. Thank god most kanuckers aren't as dumb as you
are.
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On Thursday, 8 December 2022 at 13:38:07 UTC-4, justan wrote:
> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized." > > WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY. > -- > Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we > know it. > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk?
>
> Donny, you have a bad habit of sticking your head in dark smelly
> places. Thank god most kanuckers aren't as dumb as you
> are.
> --

Are y'all referring to this group?
I suppose y'all have a point considering how it's dominated by The John and his Bowl of Turds.
"dark smelly places" indeed!

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> On Thursday, 8 December 2022 at 13:38:07 UTC-4, justan wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread
voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you
don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor
then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized." > > WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY. > -- > Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we > know it. > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy....because he is quite adept at outing y'all and your ilk? > > Donny, you have a bad habit of sticking your head in dark smelly > places. Thank god most kanuckers aren't as dumb as you > are.> -- Are y'all referring to this group?I suppose y'all have a point considering how it's dominated by The John and his Bowl of Turds."dark smelly places" indeed!

Nope.
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:38:06 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

>True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>> On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 23:47:56 UTC-4, justan wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential-election results, despite the
>fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox, the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing ?X in
>drafting ?X the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani said, adding: "It was
>hardly ?X "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized." > > WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY. > -- > Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we > know it. > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy....because he is quite adept at
>outing y'all and your ilk?
>
>Donny, you have a bad habit of sticking your head in dark smelly
> places. Thank god most kanuckers aren't as dumb as you
> are.

And, I have a lot of experience sticking my head up dark smelly
places!

Trump 2024! Even from prison!

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 06:12:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>justan <me@here.com> wrote:
>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
>> Wrote in message:r
>>> It looks like Rudy is in hot water - well deserved I might
>>> add.https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-struggled-to-answer-basic-questions-attorney-disciplinary-hearing-2022-12Former
>>> Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York appeared Monday as the first witness in
>>> his own attorney-misconduct hearing. The proceedings quickly became
>>> combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer
>>> straightforward questions and frequently veering off course.The ethics
>>> case, brought by the Washington, DC, bar's Office of Disciplinary
>>> Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election
>>> results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's
>>> personal attorney. Specifically, the office alleges that the former New
>>> York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's
>>> presidential-election results, despite the fact that there was "no
>>> factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter
>>> fraud.By filing the lawsuit, the office said, Giuliani violated the
>>> Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct
>>> prejudicial to the administration of justice."On Monday, Hamilton Fox,
>>> the disciplinary counsel, said in his opening arguments that Giuliani
>>> "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the
>>> Constitution."Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action
>>> asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to
>>> vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.Fox grew increasingly
>>> frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he
>>> was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in
>>> litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered
>>> off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in
>>> other states."Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was
>>> in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox
>>> said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make
>>> a watch.""Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the
>>> question so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani
>>> said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and
>>> attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."Later in
>>> the hearing, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer
>>> questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania
>>> Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state."I recall this
>>> very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very
>>> debatable opinion."Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling
>>> held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where
>>> the ballots are being counted.""So you would agree that my position is
>>> reasonable, since it was the same position as" the dissenters, Giuliani
>>> said, adding: "It was hardly — "Fox cut him off, saying, "Mr. Giuliani,
>>> I ask the questions."Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over
>>> the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in."Mr.
>>> Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at
>>> which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the
>>> questions. Thank you."Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another
>>> long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a
>>> witness.The former mayor then said he had been "persecuted for three or
>>> more years" and that his actions were taken out of context."You've been
>>> a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process
>>> works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."
>>
>> WAYNE SOUNDS MORE LIKE FAT HARRY EVERY DAY.
>
>With all the ONLY prosecutions on many of these investigations for being
>lied to the authorities, I think the smart thing is do not say anything.

Shut up spoofer!

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