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* This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rulepeps...@gmail.com
`* Re: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's ruleNasti Chestikov
 `- Re: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's ruleTimothy Chow

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This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule

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Subject: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule
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 by: peps...@gmail.com - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:35 UTC

Here, the DMP play is obvious but slightly wrong for money.
I don't see this as a counterexample to Stick's DMP rule though,
because I don't think it's intended for bearing off against contact,
although he might not have said so explicitly.
In this type of position, there's a tendency among non-experts to
play too safe -- so it's kind of an anti-DMP position.

Paul

XGID=bCBBDB-----------b-cbb-bb-:2:-1:1:44:21:6:3:0:10
X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon

Score is X:21 O:6. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O | | O O O O O | +---+
| O | | O O O O O | | 4 |
| | | O | +---+
| | | |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | O | |
| | O | X |
| | | X X |
| | | X X X X X |
| | | X X X X X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 39 O: 108 X-O: 21-6
Cube: 4, O own cube
X to play 44

1. XG Roller+ 4/Off(4) eq:+1.714
Player: 95.62% (G:78.48% B:3.25%)
Opponent: 4.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

2. XG Roller+ 5/1(2) 4/Off(2) eq:+1.681 (-0.033)
Player: 98.38% (G:71.13% B:0.83%)
Opponent: 1.62% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

3. 1-ply 5/1 4/Off(3) eq:+0.308 (-1.406)
Player: 55.62% (G:34.32% B:0.91%)
Opponent: 44.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

Re: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule

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Subject: Re: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule
From: nasti.ch...@gmail.com (Nasti Chestikov)
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 by: Nasti Chestikov - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:02 UTC

On Saturday, 12 February 2022 at 02:35:34 UTC, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here, the DMP play is obvious but slightly wrong for money.
> I don't see this as a counterexample to Stick's DMP rule though,
> because I don't think it's intended for bearing off against contact,
> although he might not have said so explicitly.
> In this type of position, there's a tendency among non-experts to
> play too safe -- so it's kind of an anti-DMP position.
>
> Paul
>
> XGID=bCBBDB-----------b-cbb-bb-:2:-1:1:44:21:6:3:0:10
> X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon
>
> Score is X:21 O:6. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | O | | O O O O O | +---+
> | O | | O O O O O | | 4 |
> | | | O | +---+
> | | | |
> | | | |
> | |BAR| |
> | | O | |
> | | O | X |
> | | | X X |
> | | | X X X X X |
> | | | X X X X X |
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 39 O: 108 X-O: 21-6
> Cube: 4, O own cube
> X to play 44
>
> 1. XG Roller+ 4/Off(4) eq:+1.714
> Player: 95.62% (G:78.48% B:3.25%)
> Opponent: 4.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
>
> 2. XG Roller+ 5/1(2) 4/Off(2) eq:+1.681 (-0.033)
> Player: 98.38% (G:71.13% B:0.83%)
> Opponent: 1.62% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
>
> 3. 1-ply 5/1 4/Off(3) eq:+0.308 (-1.406)
> Player: 55.62% (G:34.32% B:0.91%)
> Opponent: 44.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
>
>
> eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

For those of us who aren't familiar with "Stick", please enlighten us as to what, or who, "Stick" is?

You refer to it frequently, is he/she a God like creature in Backgammon circles?

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: Re: This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule
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 by: Timothy Chow - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:41 UTC

On 2/12/2022 1:02 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:
> For those of us who aren't familiar with "Stick", please enlighten us as to what, or who, "Stick" is?
>
> You refer to it frequently, is he/she a God like creature in Backgammon circles?

Can't even keep track of what your own sock puppets know
and don't know. Tsk tsk, Murat.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/--0PVsgcDN4/m/HzYiZf_nAgAJ

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Tim Chow

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