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Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread

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Subject: Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread
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by: peps...@gmail.com - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 13:20 UTC

I played the banana split below, and it was assessed
(by the analysis, not a rollout) as being an approx 0.05 mistake.
So it merits consideration even though it didn't quite work.

Paul

XGID=-BaBBCC---------b-Abb-AbfA:1:1:1:41:1:4:3:0:10
X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon

Score is X:1 O:4. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O X | | O O X O O |
| O | | O O O O |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | X | 6 |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | X X | +---+
| | | X X X X X | | 2 |
| | | X X X X O X | +---+
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 114 O: 73 X-O: 1-4
Cube: 2, X own cube
X to play 41

1. XG Roller+ Bar/21 22/21 eq:+0.274
Player: 53.91% (G:7.96% B:0.19%)
Opponent: 46.09% (G:5.46% B:0.02%)

2. XG Roller+ Bar/21 3/2* eq:+0.220 (-0.055)
Player: 55.22% (G:10.18% B:0.33%)
Opponent: 44.78% (G:23.37% B:0.55%)

3. 4-ply Bar/21 18/17 eq:+0.280 (+0.005)
Player: 54.05% (G:10.81% B:0.27%)
Opponent: 45.95% (G:9.18% B:0.11%)

4. 4-ply Bar/21 5/4 eq:+0.230 (-0.044)
Player: 52.68% (G:9.12% B:0.15%)
Opponent: 47.32% (G:9.35% B:0.11%)

5. 3-ply Bar/21 6/5 eq:+0.168 (-0.107)
Player: 50.15% (G:8.27% B:0.26%)
Opponent: 49.85% (G:9.19% B:0.07%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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Subject: Re: Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread
From: bananabo...@gmail.com (Stick Rice)
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by: Stick Rice - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 20:28 UTC

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:20:48 AM UTC-4, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> I played the banana split below, and it was assessed
> (by the analysis, not a rollout) as being an approx 0.05 mistake.
> So it merits consideration even though it didn't quite work.
>
> Paul
>
> XGID=-BaBBCC---------b-Abb-AbfA:1:1:1:41:1:4:3:0:10
> X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon
>
> Score is X:1 O:4. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | O X | | O O X O O |
> | O | | O O O O |
> | | | O |
> | | | O |
> | | X | 6 |
> | |BAR| |
> | | | |
> | | | |
> | | | X X | +---+
> | | | X X X X X | | 2 |
> | | | X X X X O X | +---+
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 114 O: 73 X-O: 1-4
> Cube: 2, X own cube
> X to play 41
>
> 1. XG Roller+ Bar/21 22/21 eq:+0.274
> Player: 53.91% (G:7.96% B:0.19%)
> Opponent: 46.09% (G:5.46% B:0.02%)
>
> 2. XG Roller+ Bar/21 3/2* eq:+0.220 (-0.055)
> Player: 55.22% (G:10.18% B:0.33%)
> Opponent: 44.78% (G:23.37% B:0.55%)
>
> 3. 4-ply Bar/21 18/17 eq:+0.280 (+0.005)
> Player: 54.05% (G:10.81% B:0.27%)
> Opponent: 45.95% (G:9.18% B:0.11%)
>
> 4. 4-ply Bar/21 5/4 eq:+0.230 (-0.044)
> Player: 52.68% (G:9.12% B:0.15%)
> Opponent: 47.32% (G:9.35% B:0.11%)
>
> 5. 3-ply Bar/21 6/5 eq:+0.168 (-0.107)
> Player: 50.15% (G:8.27% B:0.26%)
> Opponent: 49.85% (G:9.19% B:0.07%)
>
>
> eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

A rollout brings the plays closer with the banana split being wrong by ~.030.

Stick

QED.

interests / rec.games.backgammon / Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread

Subject	Author
Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread	peps...@gmail.com
Re: Not suitable for eating as a fruit but it's ok to use for banana bread	Stick Rice