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 by: Nick - Tue, 30 May 2023 07:50 UTC

Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.

Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3

o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones were
hailed as Ukraine's savior.

o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been shot
down by Russian forces.

o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties, an
expert said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T

…

Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 30 May 2023 15:55 UTC

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
>
> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3
>
>
> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones were
> hailed as Ukraine's savior.
>
> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been shot
> down by Russian forces.
>
> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties, an
> expert said.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T
>
> …
>
> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.
>
> --
> «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

Байрактарите си свършиха работата, но тенденцията за безпилотниците във войната за последната година е в
съвсем друга посока, поне до изчерпване на ПВО - евтини, лесно заменими, и за еднократна употерба. В момента
иранските Шахед (цена около $50,000) са еталона. Скоро това ще бъдат GLSDB на Сааб и Боинг (пак на същата цена).
Това трябва да е очевидно и за случайните наблюдатели. За сравнение един Байрактар струва над $5,000,000.

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 by: Nick - Tue, 30 May 2023 16:20 UTC

On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:55:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

>> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
>> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.

>> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3

>> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones
>> were hailed as Ukraine's savior.

>> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been
>> shot down by Russian forces.

>> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties,
>> an expert said.

>> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-
ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T

>> …

>> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
>> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.

> Байрактарите си свършиха работата, но тенденцията за безпилотниците във
> войната за последната година е в съвсем друга посока, поне до изчерпване
> на ПВО - евтини, лесно заменими, и за еднократна употерба. В момента
> иранските Шахед (цена около $50,000) са еталона. Скоро това ще бъдат
> GLSDB на Сааб и Боинг (пак на същата цена). Това трябва да е очевидно и
> за случайните наблюдатели. За сравнение един Байрактар струва над
> $5,000,000.

този анализатор казва друго, но както и да е, ти си ненадминат военен
експерт, медийно грамотен при това.

а и акцентът на пращулката е малко по-различен.

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 30 May 2023 21:56 UTC

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
>
> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3
>
>
> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones were
> hailed as Ukraine's savior.
>
> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been shot
> down by Russian forces.
>
> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties, an
> expert said.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T
>
> …
>
> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.
Друга статия от Business Insider, щом толкова ти харесват :-P
"Russia has lost two-thirds of its tanks since it invaded Ukraine as its military struggles with obsolete Soviet-era weapons"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-has-lost-two-thirds-of-its-tanks-since-it-invaded-ukraine-as-its-military-struggles-with-obsolete-soviet-era-weapons-analyst-says/ar-AA1bT1jD

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 by: chorbalan - Tue, 30 May 2023 23:38 UTC

On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
>> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
>> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
>>
>> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3
>>
>>
>> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones were
>> hailed as Ukraine's savior.
>>
>> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been shot
>> down by Russian forces.
>>
>> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties, an
>> expert said.
>>
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T
>>
>> …
>>
>> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
>> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.
>
> Друга статия от Business Insider, щом толкова ти харесват :-P
>
> "Russia has lost two-thirds of its tanks since it invaded Ukraine as its military struggles with obsolete Soviet-era weapons"
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-has-lost-two-thirds-of-its-tanks-since-it-invaded-ukraine-as-its-military-struggles-with-obsolete-soviet-era-weapons-analyst-says/ar-AA1bT1jD

Сигурно е така - повечето стари такива.
Руснаците - и подобните им - винаги са били безхаберно некадърни в началото
на всяка война която са водили, но после бързо учат и грешките намаляват.

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Wed, 31 May 2023 02:20 UTC

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 7:38:41 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> >> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
> >> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
> >>
> >> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3
> >>
> >>
> >> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones were
> >> hailed as Ukraine's savior.
> >>
> >> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been shot
> >> down by Russian forces.
> >>
> >> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties, an
> >> expert said.
> >>
> >> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
> >> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.
> >
> > Друга статия от Business Insider, щом толкова ти харесват :-P
> >
> > "Russia has lost two-thirds of its tanks since it invaded Ukraine as its military struggles with obsolete Soviet-era weapons"
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-has-lost-two-thirds-of-its-tanks-since-it-invaded-ukraine-as-its-military-struggles-with-obsolete-soviet-era-weapons-analyst-says/ar-AA1bT1jD
> Сигурно е така - повечето стари такива.
> Руснаците - и подобните им - винаги са били безхаберно некадърни в началото
> на всяка война която са водили, но после бързо учат и грешките намаляват.
Като Кримската война, предполагам. Любопитен факт в същия контекст: За последните 220 години
Великобритания е спечелила всички войни, в които Русия също е участвала :-D Друг любопитен факт:
Мирния догговор подписан на 3-ти март 1918 в Брест-Литовск е написан на 5 езика. Един от тях
е българският.

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 by: chorbalan - Wed, 31 May 2023 03:10 UTC

On Tue, 30 May 2023 19:20:44 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> Любопитен факт в същия контекст: За
> последните 220 години Великобритания е спечелила всички войни, в които
> Русия също е участвала :-D

Често и като кибици, които се включват в подходящия момент.

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 by: Nick - Wed, 31 May 2023 04:28 UTC

On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

>> Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of
>> warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.

>> Alia Shoaib May 28, 2023, 12:08 PM GMT+3

>> o In the early months of the Russia-Ukraine war, Bayraktar TB2 drones
>> were hailed as Ukraine's savior.

>> o However, a year later, nearly all of them are believed to have been
>> shot down by Russian forces.

>> o The remaining killer drones are now reduced to reconnaissance duties,
>> an expert said.

>> https://www.businessinsider.com/turkeys-bayraktar-tb2-drones-
ineffective-ukraine-war-2023-5?r=US&IR=T

>> …

>> Авторът сигурно е някой сърдит сириец, купен от руснаците в Сирия и
>> започнал работа в Business Insider с цел да пробутва руска пропаганда.

> Друга статия от Business Insider, щом толкова ти харесват :-P

> "Russia has lost two-thirds of its tanks since it invaded Ukraine as its
> military struggles with obsolete Soviet-era weapons"

> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-has-lost-two-thirds-of-its-
tanks-since-it-invaded-ukraine-as-its-military-struggles-with-obsolete-
soviet-era-weapons-analyst-says/ar-AA1bT1jD

Явно си забравил какво казват старите хора за есента.

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