yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).

many of the birds have returned.

deer already found some of the spring flowers.

today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
yesterday). 70F in early March...

songbird

On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
> yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
> start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
> square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
> down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
> coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
>
> many of the birds have returned.
>
> deer already found some of the spring flowers.
>
> today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
> yesterday). 70F in early March...
>
>
> songbird
>

We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to be in
the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early this year I'm
going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff way earlier than ever
before , trying to beat the heat and harvest something before it bolts .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

On 3/4/24 05:20, Snag wrote:
> On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
>>    yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
>> start some gardening tasks.  i scraped a few hundred
>> square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
>> down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
>> coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
>>
>>    many of the birds have returned.
>>
>>    deer already found some of the spring flowers.
>>
>>    today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
>> yesterday).  70F in early March...
>>
>>
>>    songbird
>>
>
>   We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to be in
> the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early this year I'm
> going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff way earlier than ever
> before , trying to beat the heat and harvest something before it bolts .

I am still snowed in!

T wrote:
....
> I am still snowed in!

cooler weather returned here after last night and
today's rains and thunderstorms.

not quite snowing, but quite a change from 70F to
mid- 30sF. we'll be back below freezing a few nights
this week if the forecast is accurate.

songbird

On 3/5/2024 6:56 PM, songbird wrote:
> T wrote:
> ...
>> I am still snowed in!
>
> cooler weather returned here after last night and
> today's rains and thunderstorms.
>
> not quite snowing, but quite a change from 70F to
> mid- 30sF. we'll be back below freezing a few nights
> this week if the forecast is accurate.
>
>
> songbird
>

Looks like we might be in for an early pring . Except for a couple of
overnight lows in the 30's the next 10 days look like 50's for lows and
70's for the highs . I shoulda knowed that planting lettuce and spinach
this early would make this happen ...
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

On 3/5/24 20:31, Snag wrote:
> I shoulda knowed that planting lettuce and spinach this early would make
> this happen

Earwigs destroy any lettuce I try to grow. You have
that problem?

On 3/5/2024 11:50 PM, T wrote:
> On 3/5/24 20:31, Snag wrote:
>> I shoulda knowed that planting lettuce and spinach this early would
>> make this happen
>
> Earwigs destroy any lettuce I try to grow.  You have
> that problem?

No , earwigs have never been a problem here . But there are a lot of
other equally or more destructive pests . Squash borers and Japanese
beetles are at the top of that list .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

Snag wrote:

> On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
> > yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
> > start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
> > square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
> > down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
> > coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
> >
> > many of the birds have returned.
> >
> > deer already found some of the spring flowers.
> >
> > today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
> > yesterday). 70F in early March...
> >
> >
> > songbird
> >
>
> We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to be in
> the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early this year I'm
> going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff way earlier than
> ever before , trying to beat the heat and harvest something before it
> bolts .

Hi Snag, haven't seen you in a while!

T wrote:

> On 3/4/24 05:20, Snag wrote:
> > On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
> > >    yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
> > > start some gardening tasks.  i scraped a few hundred
> > > square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
> > > down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
> > > coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
> > >
> > >    many of the birds have returned.
> > >
> > >    deer already found some of the spring flowers.
> > >
> > >    today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
> > > yesterday).  70F in early March...
> > >
> > >
> > >    songbird
> > >
> >
> >   We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to
> > be in the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early this
> > year I'm going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff way
> > earlier than ever before , trying to beat the heat and harvest
> > something before it bolts .
>
> I am still snowed in!

Virginia Beach is hitting an early Spring. Not by much but about 2
weeks.

On 3/10/2024 12:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
>>> yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
>>> start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
>>> square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
>>> down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
>>> coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
>>>
>>> many of the birds have returned.
>>>
>>> deer already found some of the spring flowers.
>>>
>>> today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
>>> yesterday). 70F in early March...
>>>
>>>
>>> songbird
>>>
>>
>> We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to be in
>> the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early this year I'm
>> going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff way earlier than
>> ever before , trying to beat the heat and harvest something before it
>> bolts .
>
> Hi Snag, haven't seen you in a while!
>

I think we used to converse over on the cooking group ... I got tired
of the Kuthe-centric conversations over there and dropped out .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group

I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
There were some really mean folks over there. I got
off pretty quick.

On 3/10/2024 5:37 PM, T wrote:
> On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
>> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
>
> I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
> There were some really mean folks over there.  I got
> off pretty quick.

There were - and probably still are - some really cool folks there
too . It got to the point from my POV that the whole group revolved
around the antics of one individual who IMO is a total jerk not worth
the bandwidth . So I left ...
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

Snag wrote:

> On 3/10/2024 12:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Snag wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
> >>> yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
> > > > start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
> > > > square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
> > > > down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
> > > > coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
> > > >
> >>> many of the birds have returned.
> > > >
> >>> deer already found some of the spring flowers.
> > > >
> >>> today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
> > > > yesterday). 70F in early March...
> > > >
> > > >
> >>> songbird
> > > >
> > >
> > > We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to
> > > be in the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early
> > > this year I'm going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff
> > > way earlier than ever before , trying to beat the heat and
> > > harvest something before it bolts .
> >
> > Hi Snag, haven't seen you in a while!
> >
>
> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group ... I got
> tired of the Kuthe-centric conversations over there and dropped out .

Well, he's gone now with google groups. I also bozo binned Bruce who's
turned total troll again. Pretty nice there now for the most part.

T wrote:

> On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
> > I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
>
> I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
> There were some really mean folks over there. I got
> off pretty quick.

You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.

Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished. I think it's
just the roof now then add the cover. It's a small unit tucked against
the back of the former garage/laundry room. Don's having fun piecing it
together and working on it about an hour a day. This is day 2 (missed
a day as it was drizzling).

Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet. Starter plants get here
to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.

For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to come
up. I'll start more later.

On 3/11/2024 12:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> On 3/10/2024 12:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Snag wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/4/2024 5:13 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>>> yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
>>>>> start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
>>>>> square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
>>>>> down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
>>>>> coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).
>>>>>
>>>>> many of the birds have returned.
>>>>>
>>>>> deer already found some of the spring flowers.
>>>>>
>>>>> today is also going to be warm (even warmer than
>>>>> yesterday). 70F in early March...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> songbird
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We've seen mid-80's here already , today's high is predicted to
>>>> be in the mid 70's . If Mother Nature sends hot weather early
>>>> this year I'm going to be really pissed . I planted salad stuff
>>>> way earlier than ever before , trying to beat the heat and
>>>> harvest something before it bolts .
>>>
>>> Hi Snag, haven't seen you in a while!
>>>
>>
>> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group ... I got
>> tired of the Kuthe-centric conversations over there and dropped out .
>
> Well, he's gone now with google groups. I also bozo binned Bruce who's
> turned total troll again. Pretty nice there now for the most part.
>

I'll poke my nose under the canvas ... I can twit-filter one or six
assholes , but the Kuthe shit was so pervasive .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
> T wrote:
>
>> On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
>>> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
>>
>> I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
>> There were some really mean folks over there. I got
>> off pretty quick.
>
> You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
>
> Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished. I think it's
> just the roof now then add the cover. It's a small unit tucked against
> the back of the former garage/laundry room. Don's having fun piecing it
> together and working on it about an hour a day. This is day 2 (missed
> a day as it was drizzling).
>
> Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet. Starter plants get here
> to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
>
> For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to come
> up. I'll start more later.

Greenhouse! I might be a little bit envious. Maybe.
I ain't sayin'.

T wrote:

> On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
> > T wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
> > > > I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
> > >
> > > I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
> > > There were some really mean folks over there. I got
> > > off pretty quick.
> >
> > You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
> >
> > Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished. I think it's
> > just the roof now then add the cover. It's a small unit tucked
> > against the back of the former garage/laundry room. Don's having
> > fun piecing it together and working on it about an hour a day.
> > This is day 2 (missed a day as it was drizzling).
> >
> > Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet. Starter plants get
> > here to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
> >
> > For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to
> > come up. I'll start more later.
>
> Greenhouse! I might be a little bit envious. Maybe.
> I ain't sayin'.

Smile, just a small one.

<https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>

Small enough it's often used on small upstairs patios though this is a
house with a fenced in backyard.

Today is day 3 and all we need now is to put the top cover on and put
the tie dowm stakes in (if not there already). Basically it's taken 3
hours and only part Don needed help with will be the top cover (can be
done by one but a lot easier with 2). Call it 5 minutes. 5 more if
stakes still needed.

Next seeds to start are marigolds. Rats hate them and we've had some
success at making our yard avoided by them. After that, peppermint and
other mints that rats dislike. Those go in containers on raised bases.
I have 32 9' deep and 12' wide containers, 3ft long mostly but some are
4ft. Plus assorted other planters and a bunch of grow bags.

On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> T wrote:
>
>> On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
>>> T wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
>>>>> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
>>>>
>>>> I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
>>>> There were some really mean folks over there. I got
>>>> off pretty quick.
>>>
>>> You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
>>>
>>> Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished. I think it's
>>> just the roof now then add the cover. It's a small unit tucked
>>> against the back of the former garage/laundry room. Don's having
>>> fun piecing it together and working on it about an hour a day.
>>> This is day 2 (missed a day as it was drizzling).
>>>
>>> Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet. Starter plants get
>>> here to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
>>>
>>> For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to
>>> come up. I'll start more later.
>>
>> Greenhouse! I might be a little bit envious. Maybe.
>> I ain't sayin'.
>
> Smile, just a small one.
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>
>
> Small enough it's often used on small upstairs patios though this is a
> house with a fenced in backyard.
>
> Today is day 3 and all we need now is to put the top cover on and put
> the tie dowm stakes in (if not there already). Basically it's taken 3
> hours and only part Don needed help with will be the top cover (can be
> done by one but a lot easier with 2). Call it 5 minutes. 5 more if
> stakes still needed.
>
> Next seeds to start are marigolds. Rats hate them and we've had some
> success at making our yard avoided by them. After that, peppermint and
> other mints that rats dislike. Those go in containers on raised bases.
> I have 32 9' deep and 12' wide containers, 3ft long mostly but some are
> 4ft. Plus assorted other planters and a bunch of grow bags.

Rats??? And I think I have a problem with earwigs!

On 3/13/2024 4:29 PM, T wrote:
> On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
>> T wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
>>>> T wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
>>>>>> I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
>>>>> There were some really mean folks over there.  I got
>>>>> off pretty quick.
>>>>
>>>> You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished.  I think it's
>>>> just the roof now then add the cover.  It's a small unit tucked
>>>> against the back of the former garage/laundry room. Don's having
>>>> fun piecing it together and working on it about an hour a day.
>>>> This is day 2 (missed a day as it was drizzling).
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet.  Starter plants get
>>>> here to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to
>>>> come up.  I'll start more later.
>>>
>>> Greenhouse!  I might be a little bit envious.  Maybe.
>>> I ain't sayin'.
>>
>> Smile, just a small one.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>
>>
>>
>> Small enough it's often used on small upstairs patios though this is a
>> house with a fenced in backyard.
>>
>> Today is day 3 and all we need now is to put the top cover on and put
>> the tie dowm stakes in (if not there already).  Basically it's taken 3
>> hours and only part Don needed help with will be the top cover (can be
>> done by one but a lot easier with 2).  Call it 5 minutes.  5 more if
>> stakes still needed.
>>
>> Next seeds to start are marigolds.  Rats hate them and we've had some
>> success at making our yard avoided by them.  After that, peppermint and
>> other mints that rats dislike.  Those go in containers on raised bases.
>> I have 32 9' deep and 12' wide containers, 3ft long mostly but some are
>> 4ft.  Plus assorted other planters and a bunch of grow bags.
>
>
> Rats???  And I think I have a problem with earwigs!
>

And you don't have armadillos either . They like to dig for grubs and
worms . Worms and grubs love my garden . I like the worms , but ...grubs
suck . I'll be getting some beneficial nematodes soon to help control
the grubs . The years I've used them the Japanese beetle populations
have been a lot lower .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

Snag wrote:

> On 3/13/2024 4:29 PM, T wrote:
> > On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> > > T wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > T wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
> > > > > > > I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
> > > > > > There were some really mean folks over there.  I got
> > > > > > off pretty quick.
> > > > >
> > > > > You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished.  I
> > > > > think it's just the roof now then add the cover.  It's a
> > > > > small unit tucked against the back of the former
> > > > > garage/laundry room. Don's having fun piecing it together and
> > > > > working on it about an hour a day. This is day 2 (missed a
> > > > > day as it was drizzling).
> > > > >
> > > > > Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet.  Starter plants
> > > > > get here to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them
> > > > > to come up.  I'll start more later.
> > > >
> > > > Greenhouse!  I might be a little bit envious.  Maybe.
> > > > I ain't sayin'.
> > >
> > > Smile, just a small one.
> > >
> >><https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard
> /dp/B095PJ8G39/>
> > >
> > >
> > > Small enough it's often used on small upstairs patios though this
> > > is a house with a fenced in backyard.
> > >
> > > Today is day 3 and all we need now is to put the top cover on and
> > > put the tie dowm stakes in (if not there already).  Basically
> > > it's taken 3 hours and only part Don needed help with will be the
> > > top cover (can be done by one but a lot easier with 2).  Call it
> > > 5 minutes.  5 more if stakes still needed.
> > >
> > > Next seeds to start are marigolds.  Rats hate them and we've had
> > > some success at making our yard avoided by them.  After that,
> > > peppermint and other mints that rats dislike.  Those go in
> > > containers on raised bases. I have 32 9' deep and 12' wide
> > > containers, 3ft long mostly but some are 4ft.  Plus assorted
> > > other planters and a bunch of grow bags.
> >
> >
> > Rats???  And I think I have a problem with earwigs!
> >
>
> And you don't have armadillos either . They like to dig for grubs and
> worms . Worms and grubs love my garden . I like the worms , but
> ...grubs suck . I'll be getting some beneficial nematodes soon to
> help control the grubs . The years I've used them the Japanese beetle
> populations have been a lot lower .

I remember Armadillos from Texas mostly.

T wrote:

> On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> > T wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/11/24 11:07, cshenk wrote:
> > > > T wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 3/10/24 13:03, Snag wrote:
> > > > > > I think we used to converse over on the cooking group
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember conversing on the cooking group years ago.
> > > > > There were some really mean folks over there. I got
> > > > > off pretty quick.
> > > >
> > > > You just need to bozo bin a few of them now.
> > > >
> > > > Anyways, here the green house is 85% percent finished. I think
> > > > it's just the roof now then add the cover. It's a small unit
> > > > tucked against the back of the former garage/laundry room.
> > > > Don's having fun piecing it together and working on it about an
> > > > hour a day. This is day 2 (missed a day as it was drizzling).
> > > >
> > > > Plenty of time as seedlings not even up yet. Starter plants get
> > > > here to the stores in our area, in 3-4 weeks.
> > > >
> > > > For now, I've got some seedlings planted and waiting for them to
> > > > come up. I'll start more later.
> > >
> > > Greenhouse! I might be a little bit envious. Maybe.
> > > I ain't sayin'.
> >
> > Smile, just a small one.
> >
> >
<https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>
> >
> > Small enough it's often used on small upstairs patios though this
> > is a house with a fenced in backyard.
> >
> > Today is day 3 and all we need now is to put the top cover on and
> > put the tie dowm stakes in (if not there already). Basically it's
> > taken 3 hours and only part Don needed help with will be the top
> > cover (can be done by one but a lot easier with 2). Call it 5
> > minutes. 5 more if stakes still needed.
> >
> > Next seeds to start are marigolds. Rats hate them and we've had
> > some success at making our yard avoided by them. After that,
> > peppermint and other mints that rats dislike. Those go in
> > containers on raised bases. I have 32 9' deep and 12' wide
> > containers, 3ft long mostly but some are 4ft. Plus assorted other
> > planters and a bunch of grow bags.
>
>
> Rats??? And I think I have a problem with earwigs!

Yup. Virginia Beach is a huge international shipping port plus all the
Navy and Coast guard. A lot of cruise ships too. In fact Carnival
just moved operations here.

On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> Smile, just a small one.
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>

I wonder ow that would hold up with our 70 MPH (one
time 105 MPH) winds?

T wrote:

> On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> > Smile, just a small one.
> >
> >
<https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>
>
> I wonder ow that would hold up with our 70 MPH (one
> time 105 MPH) winds?

Pretty rare here. Plan is simple since we do get gusts in 50's.

We took 6 full sized cinderblocks and heavy line through the holes then
drilled larger holes where needed through a wood fence piece in still
decent shape (4ft x 6ft). We tighed that line through the bottom frame
in all 6 spots. Heavy wind, take plants in and remove cover. Anything
that can dirupt that will leave us with no concern for a 60$ greenhouse
because we'll have worse things to deal with.

On 2024-03-04, songbird wrote:
> yesterday it was warm enough to get outside and
> start some gardening tasks. i scraped a few hundred
> square feet after burying some garlic and onion seeds
> down deep enough that they'll have a tough time
> coming back up (i also put some cardboard over them).

Nice.

With our (90%) frost date (allegedly) being April 15th, I filled out
some seed trays yesterday for planting out in the garden in a few weeks.
Not a whole lot to speak of -- some lettuces and swiss chard to try,
plus some chives. A few cells have been commandeered by the kiddos for
sunflowers as well, so that should be fun for them.

> deer already found some of the spring flowers.
pests.

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cshenk wrote:

> T wrote:
>
> > On 3/12/24 08:53, cshenk wrote:
> > > Smile, just a small one.
> > >
> > >
>
<https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Hanience-Anchors-Shelves-Backyard/dp/B095PJ8G39/>
> >
> > I wonder ow that would hold up with our 70 MPH (one
> > time 105 MPH) winds?
>
> Pretty rare here. Plan is simple since we do get gusts in 50's.
>
> We took 6 full sized cinderblocks and heavy line through the holes
> then drilled larger holes where needed through a wood fence piece in
> still decent shape (4ft x 6ft). We tighed that line through the
> bottom frame in all 6 spots. Heavy wind, take plants in and remove
> cover. Anything that can dirupt that will leave us with no concern
> for a 60$ greenhouse because we'll have worse things to deal with.

Oh. thats a 6ft fence piece that is 8ft long, cut in half.