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* Russian spy chief says U.S., Poland plotting division of Ukraineltlee1
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Subject: Russian spy chief says U.S., Poland plotting division of Ukraine
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 by: ltlee1 - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:52 UTC

"LONDON (Reuters) -Russia's foreign spy chief accused the United States and Poland on Thursday of plotting to gain a sphere of influence in Ukraine, a claim denied by Warsaw as disinformation aimed at sowing distrust among Kyiv's supporters.

Sergei Naryshkin, the chief of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), cited unpublished intelligence that he said showed the United States and Poland, NATO allies, were plotting to restore Polish control over part of western Ukraine.

"According to the intelligence received by Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington and Warsaw are working on plans to establish Poland's tight military and political control over its historical possessions in Ukraine," Naryshkin said in a rare statement released by the SVR.

Poland denied the claim and said it was disinformation spread by Moscow."

At present, such accusation could not be proved. But if one ask the question which nation would benefit from Ukraine being a failed state. Poland would be one but also at great cost.

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Subject: Re: Russian spy chief says U.S., Poland plotting division of Ukraine
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 by: bmoore - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:01 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 5:52:18 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> "LONDON (Reuters) -Russia's foreign spy chief accused the United States and Poland on Thursday of plotting to gain a sphere of influence in Ukraine, a claim denied by Warsaw as disinformation aimed at sowing distrust among Kyiv's supporters.
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> Sergei Naryshkin, the chief of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), cited unpublished intelligence that he said showed the United States and Poland, NATO allies, were plotting to restore Polish control over part of western Ukraine.
>
> "According to the intelligence received by Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington and Warsaw are working on plans to establish Poland's tight military and political control over its historical possessions in Ukraine," Naryshkin said in a rare statement released by the SVR.
>
> Poland denied the claim and said it was disinformation spread by Moscow."
>
> At present, such accusation could not be proved. But if one ask the question which nation would benefit from Ukraine being a failed state. Poland would be one but also at great cost.

Well, if the Russian spy chief said so...

Also from the article:

"The aim of Russian propaganda is to foster distrust between Ukraine and Poland, to undermine PL-UA cooperation."

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 by: borie - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:20 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:52:18 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> "LONDON (Reuters) -Russia's foreign spy chief accused the United States and Poland on Thursday of plotting to gain a sphere of influence in Ukraine, a claim denied by Warsaw as disinformation aimed at sowing distrust among Kyiv's supporters.
>
> Sergei Naryshkin, the chief of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), cited unpublished intelligence that he said showed the United States and Poland, NATO allies, were plotting to restore Polish control over part of western Ukraine.
>
> "According to the intelligence received by Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington and Warsaw are working on plans to establish Poland's tight military and political control over its historical possessions in Ukraine," Naryshkin said in a rare statement released by the SVR.
>
> Poland denied the claim and said it was disinformation spread by Moscow."
>
> At present, such accusation could not be proved. But if one ask the question which nation would benefit from Ukraine being a failed state. Poland would be one but also at great cost.

If Ukraine is split into two parts, the west part will be for Poland and the east part will be for Russia. Ukraine will have nothing left.

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 by: bmoore - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:41 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:20:29 AM UTC-7, borie wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:52:18 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > "LONDON (Reuters) -Russia's foreign spy chief accused the United States and Poland on Thursday of plotting to gain a sphere of influence in Ukraine, a claim denied by Warsaw as disinformation aimed at sowing distrust among Kyiv's supporters.
> >
> > Sergei Naryshkin, the chief of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), cited unpublished intelligence that he said showed the United States and Poland, NATO allies, were plotting to restore Polish control over part of western Ukraine.
> >
> > "According to the intelligence received by Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington and Warsaw are working on plans to establish Poland's tight military and political control over its historical possessions in Ukraine," Naryshkin said in a rare statement released by the SVR.
> >
> > Poland denied the claim and said it was disinformation spread by Moscow.."
> >
> > At present, such accusation could not be proved. But if one ask the question which nation would benefit from Ukraine being a failed state. Poland would be one but also at great cost.
> If Ukraine is split into two parts, the west part will be for Poland and the east part will be for Russia. Ukraine will have nothing left.

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