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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Mon, 9 May 2022 13:53 UTC

> Russia Isn't a Military State. It's a Delusional One
> By Yulia Latynina, May 1, 2022, WSJ

> Ms. Latynina was a journalist with Echo of Moscow and Novaya Gazeta,

Here <https://bit.ly/3kQ7vtd> I explained the post-Soviet intelligentsia.

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 by: ltlee1 - Mon, 9 May 2022 15:55 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:54:11 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> > Russia Isn't a Military State. It's a Delusional One
> > By Yulia Latynina, May 1, 2022, WSJ
> > Ms. Latynina was a journalist with Echo of Moscow and Novaya Gazeta,
> Here <https://bit.ly/3kQ7vtd> I explained the post-Soviet intelligentsia.

But why?
Putin had once said trusting the West too much was Russia's biggest mistake.
How many among the post-Soviet intelligentsia are still making the same mistake?
And why?

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 10 May 2022 04:23 UTC

David P., <news:e6058aa2-dfdf-457e-9f41-c5e21321f456n@googlegroups.com>
> Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> Here <https://bit.ly/3kQ7vtd> I explained the post-Soviet intelligentsia.
> ------------
> What about the non-intelligentsia? They're uninformed, but they can vote!

The historically evolved figurative term "intelligentsia"
in the Russian-Soviet specific context isn't literally about
intelligence (and it's only indirectly about intellect).

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 10 May 2022 04:27 UTC

ltlee1, <news:4bcaea9e-1fac-446a-b1bc-adfeb861598bn@googlegroups.com>
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:54:11 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> Here <https://bit.ly/3kQ7vtd> I explained the post-Soviet intelligentsia.
>
> But why?
> Putin had once said trusting the West too much was Russia's biggest mistake.
> How many among the post-Soviet intelligentsia are still making the same
> mistake?
> And why?

Putin himself could have been asked about consistency of his policies.

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 by: ltlee1 - Tue, 10 May 2022 11:09 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 12:28:55 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> ltlee1, <news:4bcaea9e-1fac-446a...@googlegroups.com>
> > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:54:11 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
> >> Here <https://bit.ly/3kQ7vtd> I explained the post-Soviet intelligentsia.
> >
> > But why?
> > Putin had once said trusting the West too much was Russia's biggest mistake.
> > How many among the post-Soviet intelligentsia are still making the same
> > mistake?
> > And why?

> Putin himself could have been asked about consistency of his policies.

1. Examples please.

2. More specific on Yulia Latynina. She does journalism and write books. 20 books
according to one site. (Some French edition of her books, presumably fictions, could be
found in Amazon.com)

Concerning what had been happening over the Ukrainian battlefield, it is obvious that
Russian progress is not going well. Still the following description does not sound right.

"The current Russian army is a replica of Joseph Stalin’s Red Army, designed to saturate
minefields with bodies. During World War II, while U.S. generals were parachuting onto
battlefields with their troops and sharing their hardships, Soviet generals stayed far from
the front and sent wave after wave of doomed conscripts against impregnable defenses."

In reality, abnormally large number of Russian generals were killed in Ukraine. And US
officials had recently disclosed its involvement on the demise of these generals.

3. According to recent polls, Putin still enjoys popular support. Were there other survey on
how the people see the government?

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 12 May 2022 21:10 UTC

ltlee1, <news:d2deccae-d1e9-4905-b7bf-770015072181n@googlegroups.com>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 12:28:55 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

> 2. More specific on Yulia Latynina. She does journalism and write books. 20
> books according to one site. (Some French edition of her books, presumably
> fictions, could be found in Amazon.com)

Yep, "fiction" is the keyword.

Freak-troll-lady with a rich imagination and social Darwinist mindset.

> Concerning what had been happening over the Ukrainian battlefield,
> it is obvious that Russian progress is not going well.
>
> Still the following
> description does not sound right.
>
> "The current Russian army is a replica of Joseph Stalin's Red Army, designed
> to saturate
> minefields with bodies. During World War II, while U.S. generals were
> parachuting onto
> battlefields with their troops and sharing their hardships, Soviet generals
> stayed far from
> the front and sent wave after wave of doomed conscripts against impregnable
> defenses."
>
> In reality, abnormally large number of Russian generals were killed in
> Ukraine. And US
> officials had recently disclosed its involvement on the demise of these
> generals.

The situation is extremely asymmetric. The asymmetry is expressed
in objectives, methods and resources. In the English-speaking and
European infospace, Russia has no chances to compete against
pro-Kiev narratives. And Russian officials do not even make creative
efforts in this unpromising field. In turn, the Kiev regime and its
Atnaticist patrons gash with various information, which includes
official statements, "disclosures", rumors, refutation of rumors,
"intercepted calls", "leaks from unnamed officials" and so forth.
A large part of this stuff is crafted in favor of psyop goals.

About that "abnormally large number of generals" I can simply say
there was no confirmation from official or any "credible" sources
from Russia.

> 3. According to recent polls, Putin still enjoys popular support. Were there
> other survey on
> how the people see the government?

Yes he does, and misc surveys show about the same figures.

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