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 by: Nick - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:01 UTC

Явно нова порция руска пропаганда, поне това твърди епистемологията на
новината.

Poppy growth down 95% in Afghanistan since Taliban ban: UN

Kabul (AFP) – Poppy cultivation and opium production have plunged 95
percent in Afghanistan since Taliban authorities banned the crop,
according to a UN report published Sunday.

Since returning to power in 2021, Taliban authorities have vowed to end
illegal drug production in Afghanistan and in April 2022 banned the
cultivation of the poppy plant, from which opium and heroin are made.

The report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) found
that poppy cultivation has collapsed by an estimated 95 percent -- from
233,000 hectares (575,755 acres) at the end of 2022 to 10,800 in 2023.

Opium production has followed suit, plummeting from 6,200 tons to 333 tons
in 2023.

This year's estimated harvest amounts to 24-38 tons of exportable heroin,
compared with 350-580 tons last year.

The UNODC warned of potential "humanitarian consequences for many
vulnerable rural communities" due to the sudden contraction of
Afghanistan's opium economy, as growers have had to turn to far less
lucrative alternative crops.

Farmers' incomes, estimated at $1.36 billion in 2022, have fallen by 92
percent to $110 million this year, according to the UNODC, with the loss
expected to impact the country's already struggling economy more broadly.

Last year, poppy crops accounted for almost a third by value of total
agricultural production in Afghanistan, the world's leading producer.

"Today, Afghanistan's people need urgent humanitarian assistance... to
absorb the shock of lost income and save lives," said UNODC Executive
Director Ghada Waly in a statement.

"For all the other production -- cotton, wheat -- they need much more
water," she said at a briefing on the report, while the country was
experiencing "three years of consecutive draught".

The Afghan interior ministry's narcotics department said it agrees "to a
certain extent" with the UNODC report's estimates of the area under poppy
cultivation.

But it dismissed other elements of the report, such as those regarding
opium production and socio-economic data, because they were not based on
field-based surveys, relying instead on satellite images and previous
years' data.

© 2023 AFP

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231105-poppy-growth-down-95-in-afghanistan-since-taliban-ban-un

Обсебения дали има някакво друго обяснение?

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 by: chorbalan - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:26 UTC

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:01:45 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

> Явно нова порция руска пропаганда, поне това твърди епистемологията на
> новината.
>
> Poppy growth down 95% in Afghanistan since Taliban ban: UN

Не виждам връзката между двете, но: UNODC хем ги боли, хем сърби - хем
пискат срещу наркотиците и се борят срещу тях, хем сега без тях някои
хора щели да са без препитание!?

Прочее там където има задължителна смъртна присъда за трафик употребата
е много ниска, понеже предлагането почти изчезва: Сингапур, Индонезия,
Малайзия, Виетнам и т.н..

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:38 UTC

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 1:26:49 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:01:45 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:
>
> > Явно нова порция руска пропаганда, поне това твърди епистемологията на
> > новината.
> >
> > Poppy growth down 95% in Afghanistan since Taliban ban: UN
> Не виждам връзката между двете, но: UNODC хем ги боли, хем сърби - хем
> пискат срещу наркотиците и се борят срещу тях, хем сега без тях някои
> хора щели да са без препитание!?
>
> Прочее там където има задължителна смъртна присъда за трафик употребата
> е много ниска, понеже предлагането почти изчезва: Сингапур, Индонезия,
> Малайзия, Виетнам и т.н..

Именно.

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 by: Nick - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:02 UTC

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:26:46 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:01:45 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

>> Явно нова порция руска пропаганда, поне това твърди епистемологията на
>> новината.

>> Poppy growth down 95% in Afghanistan since Taliban ban: UN

> Не виждам връзката между двете, но: UNODC хем ги боли, хем сърби - хем
> пискат срещу наркотиците и се борят срещу тях, хем сега без тях някои
> хора щели да са без препитание!?

Коя връзка не виждаш :)

Иначе - да, хем ги сърби, хем ги боли.

> Прочее там където има задължителна смъртна присъда за трафик употребата
> е много ниска, понеже предлагането почти изчезва: Сингапур, Индонезия,
> Малайзия, Виетнам и т.н..

Сигурно е така - няма предлагане, няма и търсене.

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 by: Vedrin Jeliazkov - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 11:17 UTC

Използваният от талибаните подход за съкращаване на производството на опиум е чрез ограничаване на изпомпването на вода за напояване от кладенци с над 100 метрова дълбочина с евтини дизелови или захранвани от фотоволтаици помпи, каквито са били внесени от Китай и Пакистан и масово инсталирани след 2010 г. в пустините на югозапад (в Кандахар, Хелманд, Нимруз и Фарах). През последните 5 години там са били построени около 48000 нови къщи, а населението се е увеличило с близо половин милион в добавка към предишните заселнически вълни след 2003 г., наброяващи около един милион. Към 2019 г. вече е имало над 67000 дълбоки кладенци, разчитащи на фотоволтаици на площ от само 900 квадратни километра на фона на 14000 през 2016 г. Това обаче е довело и до по-бързо спадане на нивото на подпочвените води (от 1 m годишно преди до близо 3 метра годишно в днешно време). От тази гледна точка голям помощник на талибаните се явява природата. Малко повече подробности има тук:

https://areu.org.af/when-the-water-runs-dry/

Като се замисли човек, в Афганистан са налице някои забележителни сходства с творчеството на Frank Herbert (Dune). До днес не ми беше известно, че един от източниците му на вдъхновение е бил "The Sabres of Paradise: Conquest and Vengeance in the Caucasus (a biography of Imam Shamyl and history of Tsarist Russian rule in early 19th century Georgia and the Caucasus)" от Lesley Blanch. Например езика chakbosa, както и редица други термини и поговорки.

И най-сетне, бих ви досадил с една интересна страница от сайта на библиотеката на Конгреса за "The Great Game and Afghanistan":

https://www.loc.gov/ghe/cascade/index.html?appid=a0930b1f4e424987ba68c28880f088ea

Днес, а при през последния век, Великобритания е заместена от САЩ, а Русия -- все повече от Китай, Иран, Пакистан и Индия. Опиумът е по-скоро само една от всичките заплетени нишки...

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