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* China threatens to downgrade ties with IsraelRiain Y. Barton
+* Re: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israelstoney
|`* Re: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israelbmoore
| `- Re: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israelstoney
`* Re: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israelfrodo sam0
 `- Re: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israelltlee1

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From: ruk...@pern.invalid (Riain Y. Barton)
Subject: China threatens to downgrade ties with Israel
Date: Tue, 31 May 22 00:51:30 UTC
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 by: Riain Y. Barton - Tue, 31 May 2022 00:51 UTC

An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.

Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
interview.

"Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
@Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
say, story ain’t going anywhere."

In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.

"When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4

If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
treat you the way we do.

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 by: stoney - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 16:52 UTC

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 8:51:33 AM UTC+8, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
> An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
> newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.
>
> Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
> Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
> interview.
>
> "Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
> supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
> @Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
> Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
> say, story ain’t going anywhere."
>
> In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
> threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.
>
> "When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
> because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
> said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
> make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins.."
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4
>
>
> If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
> how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
> treat you the way we do.

Taiwan is inalienable part of China. There is no question about it with the one China recognition by the UN. Even the US and all other countries in the UN had accepted Taiwan is part of China. Hence there is no reason for any recognition of Taiwan and hence not even interview of the Taiwan foreign minister which should not exist in the first place in the world. Any country including Israel in trying to trample on the one-China principle will get their desert from them.

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 by: bmoore - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 17:27 UTC

On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 9:52:27 AM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 8:51:33 AM UTC+8, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
> > An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
> > newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.
> >
> > Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
> > Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
> > interview.
> >
> > "Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
> > supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
> > @Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
> > Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
> > say, story ain’t going anywhere."
> >
> > In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
> > threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.
> >
> > "When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
> > because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
> > said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
> > make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins."
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4
> >
> >
> > If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
> > how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
> > treat you the way we do.
> Taiwan is inalienable part of China. There is no question about it with the one China recognition by the UN. Even the US and all other countries in the UN had accepted Taiwan is part of China. Hence there is no reason for any recognition of Taiwan and hence not even interview of the Taiwan foreign minister which should not exist in the first place in the world. Any country including Israel in trying to trample on the one-China principle will get their desert from them.

The greatness of Taiwan is that it has survived, as a nice guy.

PRC is, in contrast, a jerk.

You know I am right.

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 by: stoney - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 01:58 UTC

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:27:39 AM UTC+8, bmoore wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 9:52:27 AM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 8:51:33 AM UTC+8, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
> > > An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
> > > newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.
> > >
> > > Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
> > > Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
> > > interview.
> > >
> > > "Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
> > > supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
> > > @Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
> > > Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
> > > say, story ain’t going anywhere."
> > >
> > > In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
> > > threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.
> > >
> > > "When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
> > > because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
> > > said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
> > > make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins."
> > >
> > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4
> > >
> > >
> > > If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
> > > how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
> > > treat you the way we do.
> > Taiwan is inalienable part of China. There is no question about it with the one China recognition by the UN. Even the US and all other countries in the UN had accepted Taiwan is part of China. Hence there is no reason for any recognition of Taiwan and hence not even interview of the Taiwan foreign minister which should not exist in the first place in the world. Any country including Israel in trying to trample on the one-China principle will get their desert from them.
> The greatness of Taiwan is that it has survived, as a nice guy.
>
> PRC is, in contrast, a jerk.
>
> You know I am right.

you talk cock

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 by: frodo sam0 - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:55 UTC

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 12:51:33 AM UTC, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
> An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
> newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.
>
> Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
> Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
> interview.
>
> "Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
> supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
> @Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
> Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
> say, story ain’t going anywhere."
>
> In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
> threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.
>
> "When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
> because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
> said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
> make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins.."
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4
>
>
> If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
> how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
> treat you the way we do.

China should bear no illusion that it can tell Israel what to do or not to do. Israel is forever beholden to the US-led West. It was formed out of Palestine by the British. As British might wanes and US might grows, Israel becomes beholden to the US. The continuing existence of the state of Israel is a cornerstone of the West's Rules-based International Order. Whichever country threatens the existence of Israel will be countered by the full might of the West. That's what happened to Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran.

Israel can have nuclear weapons but not any of the Arab Muslim nations in the Middle East. Israel can bomb any of the start-up nuclear facilities in the Arab Muslim nations without any problem. This is in accordance with the Rules-based International Order of the West.

Watch out for the next attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

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 by: ltlee1 - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 13:56 UTC

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:55:50 PM UTC-4, frodo sam0 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 12:51:33 AM UTC, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
> > An interview with Taiwan’s foreign minister published in an Israeli
> > newspaper has reportedly ruffled feathers in China.
> >
> > Jerusalem Post editor Yaakov Katz said he received a call from the
> > Chinese embassy in Israel, insisting that his outlet take down the
> > interview.
> >
> > "Didn’t take long. Got call from Chinese embassy. Apparently I’m
> > supposed to take down the story or they will sever ties with the
> > @Jerusalem_Post and downgrade relations with the State of Israel,"
> > Katz tweeted shortly after the article was published. "Needless to
> > say, story ain’t going anywhere."
> >
> > In the interview, Taiwan’s Foreign Minister Joseph Wu warned of the
> > threat posed by China’s authoritarian regime.
> >
> > "When dealing with China, you should never accept preconditions
> > because once you accept preconditions, you lose no matter what," Wu
> > said. "And when you worry about China getting angry and give in, or
> > make pledges that you shouldn’t make concessions, China also wins."
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-threatens-to-downgrade-ties-with-israel-after-newspaper-publishes-taiwan-interview/ar-AAXTGZp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b9dd95a49edf430887742d2b80b65ef4
> >
> >
> > If jews and those slant-eyed cretins can't get along with each other,
> > how can anyone expect White people to tolerate either? This is why we
> > treat you the way we do.
> China should bear no illusion that it can tell Israel what to do or not to do. Israel is forever beholden to the US-led West. It was formed out of Palestine by the British. As British might wanes and US might grows, Israel becomes beholden to the US.

Or the US is beholden to Israel.
UN General Assembly had voted for the 28th time on an issue about a year ago.
184 Yes vote, 3 Abstain, 2 No vote: one from the US, the other from Israel.

> The continuing existence of the state of Israel is a cornerstone of the West's Rules-based International Order. Whichever country threatens the existence of Israel will be countered by the full might of the West. That's what happened to Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran.
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> Israel can have nuclear weapons but not any of the Arab Muslim nations in the Middle East. Israel can bomb any of the start-up nuclear facilities in the Arab Muslim nations without any problem. This is in accordance with the Rules-based International Order of the West.
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> Watch out for the next attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

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