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* J.K. Rowling: 'It Isn't Hate to Speak the Truth'Scientific (she/her)
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 by: Scientific (she/her) - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 21:14 UTC

TERF cult leader J.K. Rowling: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex
attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is
erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex
removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It
isn’t hate to speak the truth.”

Scientific trans girl's response: But obfuscating transphobia within
truth *is* hate. We don't want to remove biological sex, in fact, gender
identity is one of parts of biological sex. There are different sexual
orientations within us, both cis and trans.
--
There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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 by: Dennis Davis - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 01:27 UTC

In article <shtno1$ase$1@dont-email.me>
"Scientific (she/her)" <science@is.truth> wrote:
>
> TERF cult leader J.K. Rowling: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex
> attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is
> erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex
> removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It
> isn’t hate to speak the truth.”
>
> Scientific trans girl's response: But obfuscating transphobia within
> truth *is* hate. We don't want to remove biological sex, in fact, gender
> identity is one of parts of biological sex. There are different sexual
> orientations within us, both cis and trans.

Translation: transgenderism is mental illness and should be
treated as such. There is no middle ground.

Round all those fucks up and dump them on an abandoned military
base somewhere. Give them heroin and needles, let them live
their fucked up lives without disturbing everyone else. When
they OD, drag them outside the gate and let the coyotes eat
dinner.

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From: jesusist...@hotmail.com (Michael Christ)
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 by: Michael Christ - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 02:12 UTC

On 16/09/2021 11:27 am, Dennis Davis wrote:
> In article <shtno1$ase$1@dont-email.me>
> "Scientific (she/her)" <science@is.truth> wrote:
>>
>> TERF cult leader J.K. Rowling: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex
>> attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is
>> erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex
>> removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It
>> isn’t hate to speak the truth.”
>>
>> Scientific trans girl's response: But obfuscating transphobia within
>> truth *is* hate. We don't want to remove biological sex, in fact, gender
>> identity is one of parts of biological sex. There are different sexual
>> orientations within us, both cis and trans.
>
> Translation: transgenderism is mental illness and should be
> treated as such. There is no middle ground.
>
> Round all those fucks up and dump them on an abandoned military
> base somewhere. Give them heroin and needles, let them live
> their fucked up lives without disturbing everyone else. When
> they OD, drag them outside the gate and let the coyotes eat
> dinner.
>

Man is always seeking to redefine truth according to his/her own bent.

The truth is not impressed or bothered.

A man who is born a man will always be a man, and a woman who is born a
woman will always be a woman. XX or XY and thus it will remain.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

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 by: Byker - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:49 UTC

"Dennis Davis" wrote in message
news:c56fea82db0d23a6638c75732f4bc35d@dizum.com...
>
> Translation: transgenderism is mental illness and should be treated as
> such. There is no middle ground.
>
> Round all those fucks up and dump them on an abandoned military base
> somewhere. Give them heroin and needles, let them live their fucked up
> lives without disturbing everyone else. When they OD, drag them outside
> the gate and let the coyotes eat dinner.

When those in the Armed Forces get killed
by "friendly fire," it won't be an accident...

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 by: Scientific (she/her) - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:04 UTC

On 9/16/21 1:27 AM, Dennis Davis wrote:
> In article <shtno1$ase$1@dont-email.me>
> "Scientific (she/her)" <science@is.truth> wrote:
>>
>> TERF cult leader J.K. Rowling: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex
>> attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is
>> erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex
>> removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It
>> isn’t hate to speak the truth.”
>>
>> Scientific trans girl's response: But obfuscating transphobia within
>> truth *is* hate. We don't want to remove biological sex, in fact, gender
>> identity is one of parts of biological sex. There are different sexual
>> orientations within us, both cis and trans.
>
> Translation: transgenderism is mental illness and should be
> treated as such. There is no middle ground.
>
> Round all those fucks up and dump them on an abandoned military
> base somewhere. Give them heroin and needles, let them live
> their fucked up lives without disturbing everyone else. When
> they OD, drag them outside the gate and let the coyotes eat
> dinner.
>
Prove it is mental illness first.

--
There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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 by: David Dalton - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:07 UTC

See about two-thirds of the way through the
Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage of my
Salmon on the Thorns webpage for a brief summary of
my eight sexual harmonics theory, including transgendered
and multispirit cases, where 1MT is really the
same harmonic as 1M, and there are thus only
eight harmonics and not sixteen, but I add the T
just to indicate that the person is in a female body.

There is also some discussion (and application) of
the theory on my “various matches” thread on
alt.religion.druid (which includes a proposed match
for J.K. Rowling).

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“‘You could lay down your head by a sweet river bed/But Sonny
always remembers what it was his Mama said” (Ron Hynes)

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Subject: Re: J.K. Rowling: 'It Isn't Hate to Speak the Truth'
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 by: David Dalton - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:46 UTC

On Sep 16, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.26F3E9AF003765A870000792A38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> See about two-thirds of the way through the
> Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage of my
> Salmon on the Thorns webpage for a brief summary of
> my eight sexual harmonics theory, including transgendered
> and multispirit cases, where 1MT is really the
> same harmonic as 1M, and there are thus only
> eight harmonics and not sixteen, but I add the T
> just to indicate that the person is in a female body.
>
> There is also some discussion (and application) of
> the theory on my “various matches” thread on
> alt.religion.druid (which includes a proposed match
> for J.K. Rowling).

Here is the entry on J.K. Rowling:

The Dalai Lama’s Oracle is straight-type-2-M in
my species and is a.s.r. and is thus compatible
e.g. with bif Zhang Ziyi (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon),
though of course so am I.

Her husband Wang Feng is straight-type-1-M and
compatible e.g, with Santha Faiia, the spouse
of Graham Hancock.

Graham Hancock is bim and compatible e.g.
with straight-type-2-F J.K. Rowling, who had
an old lock that has been dissolved.

Her husband Neil Murray is gay so there
can be a bridged threesome of
J.K.--Graham--Neil. Any age differences
shouldn’t be significant after the evolution.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“‘You could lay down your head by a sweet river bed/But Sonny
always remembers what it was his Mama said” (Ron Hynes)

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From: scie...@is.truth (Scientific (she/her))
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 by: Scientific (she/her) - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:46 UTC

On 9/16/21 9:07 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> See about two-thirds of the way through the
> Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage of my
> Salmon on the Thorns webpage for a brief summary of
> my eight sexual harmonics theory, including transgendered
> and multispirit cases, where 1MT is really the
> same harmonic as 1M, and there are thus only
> eight harmonics and not sixteen, but I add the T
> just to indicate that the person is in a female body.
>
> There is also some discussion (and application) of
> the theory on my “various matches” thread on
> alt.religion.druid (which includes a proposed match
> for J.K. Rowling).
>
What the hell "various matches"?

I hate J.K. Rowling for a right reason - she is a cissexist who is
afraid of the non-existent threat of trans women raping cis women in
women's bathrooms like cis women can't do that.

If you want to see heavy bullshit that J.K. Rowling would approve of,
look here.

https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

> Your son may be watching a very dangerous type of porn called “sissy
hypno”.

Thanks for advertising it.

> Please prevent him from going on HRT.

And that's misgendering a trans woman.

> Recommend you do some heavy duty reading on gender dysphoria, types,
and causes, etc.

And that's from a TERF propaganda website. All the information was
already debunked.

> No!! Please don’t look at r/GenderCritical. Since your kid is going
to be immersed in trans-positive content right now, they’re NEVER going
to take any ideas from that sub seriously. It’ll just make them more
entrenched and stubborn.

And you're right - the more I read stuff like this, the more I'm sure
that I'm right and that they're wrong.

But if I do it too much, my brain melts.

> I would definitely get on Sasha Ayad's waitlist and talk to her for
specific recommendations.

A real evil TERF therapist that somehow still hasn't lost her medical
license yet.

> Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
pronouns or the new identity.

That's not a new identity. And not accepting pronouns contradicts what
you just said.

> If they cannot promise that they won't affirm him as a girl

That's de facto conversion therapy.

> Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a while and then it comes
back, with massive social, medical, and psychological consequences.

So far current evidence argues the exact opposite.

Now some smart person comes:

> No, please do NOT use that website!! Your kid may be trans or they
may not be trans. But that website pretty much denies that being trans
is a possibility at all. Which is really dangerous and harmful.

And that's the holy truth - finally someone who isn't a TERF.

> Seriously 90% of this comment section is transphobic propaganda.

Yes, you're right.

> I'd argue that forcing your child back into the closet and driving
them to suicide is pretty dangerous and harmful.

Congratulations - you won the gold medal for being a smart person.

--
There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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 by: Scientific (she/her) - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:57 UTC

On 9/16/21 2:12 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 16/09/2021 11:27 am, Dennis Davis wrote:
>> In article <shtno1$ase$1@dont-email.me>
>> "Scientific (she/her)" <science@is.truth> wrote:
>>>
>>> TERF cult leader J.K. Rowling: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex
>>> attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is
>>> erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex
>>> removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It
>>> isn’t hate to speak the truth.”
>>>
>>> Scientific trans girl's response: But obfuscating transphobia within
>>> truth *is* hate. We don't want to remove biological sex, in fact, gender
>>> identity is one of parts of biological sex. There are different sexual
>>> orientations within us, both cis and trans.
>>
>> Translation:  transgenderism is mental illness and should be
>> treated as such.  There is no middle ground.
>>
>> Round all those fucks up and dump them on an abandoned military
>> base somewhere.  Give them heroin and needles, let them live
>> their fucked up lives without disturbing everyone else.  When
>> they OD, drag them outside the gate and let the coyotes eat
>> dinner.
>>
>
> Man is always seeking to redefine truth according to his/her own bent.
>
> The truth is not impressed or bothered.
>
> A man who is born a man will always be a man, and a woman who is born a
> woman will always be a woman.  XX or XY and thus it will remain.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
Unless you're an XX male or XY female, that's it.

--
There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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