On Wed, 18 May 2022 22:41:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 15:29:58 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 14:40:17 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:31:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 13:08:33 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:34 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> > <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:30:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >> > > Coal can be converted into hydrogen, and coal gas.
>> >> > >> > But it makes a hell of a lot more sense to convert it into
>> >> > >> electricity.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> No, it does not.
>> >> > >> Making electricity at thermal power stations means making coal
>> >> burn to
>> >> > >> make steam.
>> >> > >> This burning process creates a lot of problems - radioactive
>> >> output,
>> >> > >> Sulphur output not to mention CO2.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Coal was turned into coal gas long before electricity was
>> around.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Making coal gas involves passing steam over heated coal, to make
>> >> carbon
>> >> > >> monoxide and hydrogen.
>> >> > >> When the HTN is around (it will start small from islands and
>> >> littoral
>> >> > >> areas, then make deeper inroads
>> >> > >> and finally replace or complement the grid) the hydrogen from
>> coal
>> >> gas
>> >> > >> can be extracted and put into
>> >> > >> the HTN as an ever-available component of the hydrogen economy,
>> >> useful
>> >> > >> when the renewables sources
>> >> > >> have temporary shortfall.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> (htnresearch.com gives details about the HTN.)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> The CO component could be burnt to heat the water for the steam.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> This way, the polluting aspects of coal can be controlled much
>> more
>> >> > >> effectively, and that will give
>> >> > >> coal an unlimited lease of life, doing thus good for miners and
>> >> mining
>> >> > >> companies.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> When coal is used to make coal gas, the polluting residue
>> remains
>> >> > >> contained, does not
>> >> > >> get blown out into the air, and can be disposed off efficiently.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Of course this is a new idea, for our time, although the idea of
>> >> coal
>> >> > >> gas is ancient.
>> >> > >> Old is gold, in this case. Coal gas, hydrogen, airships, etc.
>> must
>> >> come
>> >> > >> back.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> it is with the certainty that the ruling elites will not always
>> be
>> >> > >> biased and corrupt, that guides the original
>> >> > >> works of
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of
>> all
>> >> > >> time, sole god among lotsa devils,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> who can only hope that Albo will go for the HTN. He has
>> mentioned
>> >> > >> renewables, he has mentioned
>> >> > >> transmission, so he needs to put those two together for a great
>> >> energy
>> >> > >> policy worthy of the best
>> >> > >> leftist sentiments.
>> >> >
>> >> > > With hydrogen and fuel cells and supercapacitors, we will have
>> >> > > electricity without batteries.
>> >> > Just another silly little unviable fantasy.
>> >> > > No more stupid Tesla cars.
>> >> > > Hydrogen cars will be far far better.
>> >> > Another silly little fantasy. A hydrogen cylinder in the car
>> >> > comprehensively fucks the weight of the car and is nowhere
>> >> > near as easy to fill as with a petrol or diesel fuelled car.

> Hydrogen cars have been around for several years.

And are much worse to fill than with a petrol or diesel fuelled car.

> There are no problems except availability of hydrogen. And HTN will fix
> that.

Nope, because it aint gunna happen.

>> >> Cylinders can be replaced mechanically. Swapped. No problem, can be
>> >> done automatically.
>> >
>> > This means the driver won't even need to get out of the car.
>> > Just drives to a location, and lets robots do the rest:
>> We don't even do that with EVs, for a reason, stupid.
>
> EVs on batteries alone must be banned.

Not gunna happen.

> Investment must be made about replacing H cylinders automatically.

Not gunna happen.

> That is what reaearch should be for.

Not gunna happen.

> For doing good, not evil.
> If they can join things up in space,

Pity about the cost of doing that, fuckwit.

> they can do it on Earth.

But aren't actually that stupid.

> Only too simple.

Only too stupid, actually.

>> > Take out the old cylinder, put in the new,calculate and charge the
>> > balance.
>> > And all the cylinders used are checked, of course.
>> > Just like gas cylinders for bbq at any service station.
>> Those aren't changed by robots even when its the house
>> supply, stupid.
>
>> > New ideas, will take time to sink in.

>> Hair brained ideas never happen.

> Ever single really great idea has been laughed

Hair brained stupiditys like yours in spades.

>> > But they must be implemented if people are reallyinterested in
>> > renewables for cleanliness.
>> Solar panels make FAR more sense.
>
> Yes, solar panels make sense and that in conjunction with the HTN,.

Nope, much more viable to use the existing electricity grid.

> Lots of solar farms will make surplus electricity locally. That surplus
> will be converted to hydrogen, and piped around in the HTN.

Nope, no one will be actually stupid enough to have an HTN.

> Ditto for wind farms, nuclear plants, geo, etc. instead of putting it
> into the lossy grid, it goes to the lossless

Repeating that bare faced lie changes nothing, it stays a bare faced lie.

> and thus distance-independent

Another bare faced lie.

> and rugged HTN.

>> And nukes because they use the existing grid, stupid.

> with the HTN they can make nukes in far away places where there is no
> grid

No point in putting a nuke there, fuckwit.
No one would want to work there, fuckwit.

> and use that energy to create hydrogen and oxygen from water.

No point, makes much more sense to use the electricity it generates.

> They can make nukes in deserts and arctic areas,and pipe the energy
> locally.

No point in involving hydrogen, just have the
sort of nuke used in nuclear submarines, stupid.

> Very rugged construction, most reliable.

True in spades of a nuke with no hydrogen involved.

>> >> The range will be as big as the tank!
>> >> Electric cars are very efficient, so there will be no waste.
>> >> The technology is not a problem.
>> >>
>> >> ********************************
>> >> It is a question of the bulb lighting in Albo's brain, once he gets
>> >> elected.
>> >> ********************************
>> >> > > When hydrogen will be universally available cheaply that is,
>> >> > No chance of that given the stupid cost of moving
>> >> > it to everywhere compared with electricity.
>> >> The Hydrogen Transmission Network will solve the problem of transport
>> >> and storage in one stroke.
>> >> htnresearch.com gives details, including the patent application and
>> >> patent.
>> >> Conference paper I presented in Kuwait in 2015:
>> >>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304298146_Load_balancing_system_involving_the_collection_distribution_and_usage_of_energy_using_the_proposed_Hydrogen_Transmission_Network_as_a_complement_or_alternative_to_high_voltage_transmission
>> >>
>> >> It is a new idea, so estab. robots like Rod3po dishing out their
>> >> programmers' silly authoritarian views can have no clue.
>> >> > > and will happen when the HTN happens.
>> >> > That will never happen given the utterly insane cost of it.
>> >> No, only a few billion dollars or so, then it will be self-supporting
>> >> with the vast amount of revenue coming in
>> >> from better land utilisation, industries, constructions, transport
>> >> creating unlimited jobs feeding many
>> >> services.
>> >>
>> >> It will be a multi-trillion dollar money spinner. It will provide
>> >> unlimited energy everywhere, as green as can be.
>> >> With energy everywhere, there will be use of it, from construction to
>> >> refrigeration to transport.
>> >> Oil will be phased out. Great news, that, for everyone even the oil
>> >> companies if they start to switch to hydrogen
>> >> economy using their capital. Oil will be the backup, and remain that
>> >> way for long.