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From: rbruderm...@gmail.com (George Anthony)
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 by: George Anthony - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:39 UTC

On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 11:15:38 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
> On 4/23/2022 11:12 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On 4/23/2022 7:57 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> >> On 2022-04-22 18:29:26 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
> >>
> >>> On 4/22/2022 7:57 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-04-21 19:44:25 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 4/21/2022 12:18 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
> >>>>>> to the woke liberal bullies. Finally, someone besides Trump is
> >>>>>> fighting back against the insanity of the left.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-house-passes-bill-stripping-disney-of-self-governing-status
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ROFLMAO You're so confused. I thought you were supposed to be
> >>>>> a YUGE free speech advocate. You radical "conservative" fascists
> >>>>> are all in favor of free speech--until someone says something you
> >>>>> don't like. The first amendment isn't there to protect popular
> >>>>> speech. It's there to protect unpopular speech. Disney's only sin
> >>>>> was saying things the Florida fascists don't like.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It should be interesting watching the Florida politicians
> >>>>> unscrew themselves. For example:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "For Florida: The biggest issue is nearly $1 billion in tax-free
> >>>>> bonds that have been issued by Disney. Florida law says that if a
> >>>>> special tax district is dissolved, the responsibility to pay those
> >>>>> bonds reverts to local governments. Democratic state lawmakers say
> >>>>> that the interest on those bonds equates to an additional tax
> >>>>> burden of $580 per person for the 1.7 million residents of
> >>>>> neighboring Orange and Osceola counties, which would also have to
> >>>>> step in and provide many of the public services for the area that
> >>>>> are currently funded by the company. Disney employs about 80,000
> >>>>> people in Florida."
> >>>>
> >>>> It gets worse, the locals/state not only have to assume the bonds.
> >>>> They will have to provide all the Reedy Creek services. Fire, EMS,
> >>>> etc.
> >>>> I'm certain Disney will voluntarily step up to fund this (actually
> >>>> they probably will)
> >>>>
> >>>> GOP actually admits they don't know all the effects of this, beyond
> >>>> admitting they haven't looked into the actual effects.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, I love it. "We'll figure out how to unscrew ourselves
> >>> after we've screwed ourselves." When they made that deal they knew
> >>> they needed Disney a lot more than Disney needed them. It sounds like
> >>> they were getting the best of the deal. With their strong commitment
> >>> to freedom of speech companies will have to think about where they
> >>> are before they build there.
> >>>
> >>> TB
> >>
> >> EXACTLY, what does this action tell any company that is considering
> >> a new or expanded project in Florida?
> >> That if they piss DeSantis off he will change the rules of their
> >> agreement and undercut their business.
> >> NOT a way a business friendly party is supposed to be acting.
> >>
> >> Much like CitiBank and Texas right now
> >>
> >
> > This story is just getting better all the time. I think the
> > Florida fascists have done everyone a big favor. Some of the rhetoric
> > coming out of this is just an amazing self-own. This is a fun article
> > that goes into some of what does or doesn't happen next.
> >
> > https://www.salon.com/2022/04/23/undemocratic-and-unfair-ron-desantis-disney-stunt-leaves-florida-holding-the-bag/
> >
> >
> > A few of my favorite snippets:
> >
> > ""Undemocratic and unfair": Ron DeSantis' Disney stunt leaves Florida
> > holding the bag
> >
> > Florida Republicans' rush to dissolve the Reedy Creek Improvement
> > District might also contravene state law"
> >
> > ""Disney is a guest in Florida," Republican state Rep. Randy Fine, who
> > sponsored the measure legislation, told Insider. "They're a California
> > company that clearly has California values. And they come to this state
> > as our guest and they ask for special privileges that no other company
> > in the state of Florida has, including their competitors.""
> >
> > "Conservative think tank Heritage Action for America has waxed even more
> > philosophical, claiming that "Disney has waged war on the rights of
> > parents and innocence of children."
> >
> > "While Disney bullies state legislators and uses their platform to
> > force-feed their woke agenda to young children, they shouldn't receive
> > any special privileges or legislative exemptions to do so," said Jessica
> > Anderson, Heritage's executive director. "Thanks to the Florida
> > Legislature, bills to revoke these special privileges and hold Disney
> > accountable are now heading to Governor DeSantis's desk.""
> >
> > ""Because Reedy Creek is an independent taxing district, the minute that
> > it ceases to exist is the minute that they no longer collect taxes,"
> > Orange County Tax Collector Scott Randolph said in an interview with
> > Salon. "And then what happens under Florida law is all of Reedy Creek's
> > debts and obligations transfer over to Orange County."
> >
> > At present, Scott explained, Reedy Creek collects $105 million in
> > general revenue annually. It also takes in $58 million to service its
> > own debts, meaning that it collects $163 million total per year. But
> > according to Scott, there's "no way" that Orange County can collect that
> > same amount in order to pay for the new municipal services it would have
> > to provide.
> >
> > "Orange County would really have no other no other option except to
> > raise property taxes on every citizen in Orange County," he said, noting
> > that residents might see hikes of 20% to 25%.
> >
> > To be fair, Orange and Osceola would be able to collect tax revenue from
> > Reedy Creek's properties if the district is voided. But even then,
> > Florida's ability to tax Disney, ironically enough, is exceptionally
> > limited, according to investigative journalist Jason Garcia. That's
> > because state Republicans in 2007 effectively mandated that the taxable
> > value of Disney's properties could not rise by any more than 10%
> > annually – a cap that was supposed to expire in 2018 but was instead
> > made permanent."
> >
> > "Reedy Creek's dissolution by the state legislature might also
> > contravene statutory law, which mandates that such a move "must be
> > approved by a majority of the resident electors of the district." Orange
> > County Commissioner Christine Moore told Mediaite that she was "pretty
> > confident" that this statute would sufficiently protect Reedy Creek in
> > court."
> >
> > "On Thursday, during the House's special session on Reedy Creek,
> > Eskamani submitted an amendment to revoke the district's ability to
> > change its own boundaries, build a power plant, and exercise eminent
> > domain – without rescinding its special district status.
> >
> > "We literally verbatim took what the governor and Randy Fine have said
> > [about Reedy Creek] and we filed an amendment for a scalpel approach to
> > remove those powers," Eskamani said in an interview. "All the
> > Republicans voted no on it.""
> >
> > ""The other thing is, when you kick the hornets' nest, sometimes issues
> > arise that you then go and deal with," Fine added, suggesting that
> > Disney went outside its purview by rebuking H.B. 1775. "So many of the
> > great memories of our lives have happened at this company, and to watch
> > them light themselves on fire on the altar of sexualizing children is
> > heartbreaking to me.""
> >
> > TB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I love it when you liberal loons choke on it when you get force fed a
> dose of your own medicine.
>
> Our country was founded by geniuses, but it's being run by idiots LIKE TRUMP

Where is the free speech Fido you faggot, ups its illegal, oh wise one from the turnip truck.
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